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This morning I finally got around to doing this one, initially thought of playing Romans but when my legion stack got annihilated outside Taras I gave up and decided to try the Carthaginians again. And took all the objectives by 193BC (85 turns) 
The basic plan was to get steam engine, build ironclads, take the capitals and bribe the rest of the cities.
Built Lighthouse, then sent caravans to Rhodes to get techs and money. Forgot to get Astronomy off the Seleucids . When I got ironclads (took a while as I ran out of caravans - should have build a couple more cities), I sent caravels full of diplos and elephants to capture Syracuse, Rome, bribed all Roman cities, captured and bribed Egypt and Greece, and took Antioch. Then I ran out of cash, and even worse the Seleucids moved their capital, which put Seleucia out of my price range until I captured Rhodes, and sold almost all improvements. La Tene held out for another 10 years or so, until I bought enough diplos, catapults, and elephants to take it. Probably could've managed a better date if I had planned it out a bit better. O well.
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La Fayette
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albi, france
Oct 2000 time: 06:12
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Tiny Hall of Fame for Rome scenario:
DaveV: 43 years (Romans)
DrFell: 85 years (Carthaginians)
(my previous results beating the century with other civs were obtained with some caravan rehoming; hence I consider them obsolete).
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aux bords mystérieux du monde occidental
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Oxford
Dec 2000 time: 05:12
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It was as the Romans, I think going headlong for Steam Engine and forsaking all else would have taken 20-30 years off. It only took about 5 turns to finish off after I got it this time.
EOL
Edit: typo
[This message has been edited by EOL (edited May 10, 2001).]
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La Fayette
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albi, france
Oct 2000 time: 06:12
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Tiny Hall of Fame
Dave V: 43 turns (Romans)
EOL: 74 turns (Carthaginians)
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Marquis de Sodaq
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... no, a Marquis.
Jul 2000 time: 23:12
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SELEUCID standard set: All objectives in 74 years, all cities in 79. This could easily get beaten, as I accidentally chose to research gunpowder before magnetism. My ironclads waited for several turns while the caravels sailed in. The more distant cities would fall several turns earlier with galleons. My first galleon didn't leave port until 218. Also, the perfectionist in me couldn't resist improving cities. I built five banks and three colluseums during this conquest. More bad guys would have mopped up the non-objective cities many turns earlier.
Record of city conquest and 3-figure gold transactions:
276 hides --> Rhodes 128g
267 hides --> Syracuse 308g
266 Raphia sacked, Pergamum for 715g
265 Galatia
263 Heliopolis
262 Alexandria sacked, Memphis for 276g, great granary sell-off
260 650g tribute from Carthage
255 Rhodes
250 Cyrene
249 Valladolid razed, Ptolemies relegated to history books
247 Silk --> Syracuse 120g
245 Sparta
241 Delphi
239 750g tribute from Macedon
234 steam engine discovered! (note DaveV had already won by this time...)
231 850g tribute from Carthage
228 Athens
227 Abdera, Demetrias
226 Carthage, Pella
225 Hippo Regius on sale for 127g
223 Syracuse, Leptis
222 Taras (Why not, we're in the neighborhood... Raked in 538g!)
217 Gades, Terracina, Rome
216 Heraclea, Neapolis
215 Pisae, emptied Caralis so barbarians could sack it
214 Kazan for 128g
213 Kerman for 78g, Ormuz for 308g
212 Massilia, Independent Greeks vanish; 10,000,000 Seleucids
211 Aleppo, Milan, Sena, Romans eliminated, Ngome for 231g
210 Caralis (just passing by...), Shangtu, Mpondo for 162g, Carthaginians are no more...
209 Braunsburg
208-205 bribe nine small cities for about 1500g
204 La Tene!
203-199 mop up remaining cities, 14,000,000 citizens!
And following Philip's advice, it was all possible:
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"There is no fortress impregnable to an ass laden with gold."
-Philip of Macedon
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La Fayette
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albi, france
Oct 2000 time: 06:12
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Rome scenario - Tiny Hall of Fame:
Romans: 43 years (DaveV)
Carthaginians: 74 years (EOL)
Seleucids: 74 years (Marquis de Sodaq)
Independent: 92 years (Marquis de Sodaq)
Ptolemaic: 96 years (Marquis de Sodaq)
Macedonian: ?
Celts: ?
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Marquis de Sodaq
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... no, a Marquis.
Jul 2000 time: 23:12
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The Celts win the challenge! 99 years for all objectives. Vercingetorix, ruler of all Mediterranean lands, has submitted this timeline for Apolytoners' perusal. While the Seleucids and Macedonians were left with several cities each, another ten years would have seen an end to that. The ironclad strategy did not seem like a good approach, as the Celts are so landlocked at the start, so they chose the muskets and metallurgy route. The record of conquest and 3-figure gold transactions:
278 Celtic start
269 Delphi (left Pella alone on the first turn)
267 Abdera
266 Miletus
256 150g from Macedon
254 Pella
252 Massilia
249 100g from Carthage, 300g from Seleucids
245 400g from Ind. Greeks for peace (silly fools)
241 Demetrias for 149g
240 gems --> Syracuse 140g
238 Athens 848g
234 Caralis
232 250g from Ptolomies, 250g from Seleucids, 175g from Ind. Greeks
231 175g from Ind. Greeks
228 250g from Ptolomies
226 250g from Ptolomies, metallurgy discovered
223 silk --> Rhodes 330g, hides --> Rhodes 292g
221 Pisae
220 Gades, 225g from Ind. Greeks
217 Sena
214 Rhodes, Pergamum
210 silk --> Seleucia 135g
205 Syracuse
202 Rome
199 Antioch
198 Lilybeum
197 Terracina
193 Neapolis
191 Carthage
190 Rahpia, Hippo Regius on sale for 343g (got 407 back!)
189 steam engine discovered
188 Alexandria, Heraclea, Romans eliminated
187 Heliopolis 504g
186 Taras, Ind. Greeks lose independence
185 Leptis
184 Damascus (tough nut to crack)
183 Cyrene, Saragossa
182 Memphis, Swazi, Carthaginians relegated to history books
179 Seleucia!, Valladolid for 384g, Bilbao for 284g, Ptolomies wiped off the map, 12,000,000 celts.
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EOL
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Dec 2000 time: 05:12
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No huts. I usually use 2.42 but have FW as well.
EOL
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