01-10-2001 16:10									#1
	How can we lobby Infrogames to release MOM 2? Tired of ads?

What it says above.

	01-10-2001 19:26									#2
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I'd suggest a two-part approach:

1) Buy lots of MOO3 and Civ3.

2) Write them and tell them how much you'd like to see a MOM2.

For maximum effect, make sure you do both parts. Infogrames isn't going to commit to anything until they see how the TBS market pans out.

	02-10-2001 00:18									#3
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Right, I planned on doing those things anyway.

	02-10-2001 03:28									#4
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Infogrames will probably allow Quicksilver to make whatever they want, if this game sells well. So let us support MOO3 and then everything else will just happen.

	11-10-2001 02:05									#5
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It's all about the money.

If for some reason the game does not come off, I wonder how much Infogrames would want for the rights to it?

	24-10-2001 14:53									#6
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I've been hoping for MOM2 for years. And I've heard that DOS support in Windows XP isn't very good, so I may be forced to choose between Windows XP and Master of Magic...

Heck, even a fully Windows-friendly version of MOM with no other changes would be worth buying.

	25-10-2001 05:11									#7
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what exactly is master of magic 2 (or 1, for that matter)?

	25-10-2001 13:57									#8
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A Civilization-style game with a fantasy theme, from the makers of Master of Orion. You rule a nation, as in Civ, but you're also a godlike wizard: you get power from various sources (like temples built in your cities) and can use it to cast spells upon friendly or enemy units, cities, or terrain.

There's a huge variety of playing strategies, as you design your wizard powers with a points system similar to race cusomization in MoO2. You can assign points among five schools of magic (Life, Death, Nature, Chaos and Sorcery), plus many special abilities such as Warlord (veteran units) or Alchemy (you can freely transform magical power reserves into gold or vice versa with 100% efficiency rather than the usual 50%). Also, you can choose from many races for your first city: human, elf, dwarf, dark elf, troll, lizardman, draconian, orc etc. Each has different characteristics and the ability to build race-specific units. Or you can capture them: in addition to those of your rival wizards, there are neutral cities, and the race of a city doesn't change when you capture it, so you can build up a multi-racial empire with many special units (in addition to the magical monsters that some of your spells can conjure up: dragons, wraiths, many others).

Unfortunately it's a DOS game, and very demanding in low memory (below the DOS 640K limit): there are problems getting it to run under DOS emulation in Windows (you may have to disable all sound, for instance). Hence the need for MOM2.

	25-10-2001 14:12									#9
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Yes...i would love to see MOM2!!

I've been hoping for MOM2 a long time now, and i think i'll follow your advise, Stormhound:

quote: I'd suggest a two-part approach: 1) Buy lots of MOO3 and Civ3. 2) Write them and tell them how much you'd like to see a MOM2. For maximum effect, make sure you do both parts. Infogrames isn't going to commit to anything until they see how the TBS market pans out.

I really like MOM, mostly because of the creatures (they were sure pleasant to see in battle), and the battle view (it was really cool, even the wall or the firewall would appear in battle if they were on the city)!!

I'm hoping that MOM2 will definetly come out sometime!!

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	25-10-2001 16:33									#10
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Would be nice to take 'fantasy' gaming back to TBS. Right now, RPGs seem to have a monopoly on 'fantasy'.

	25-10-2001 17:29									#11
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I would like to see MOM2 too.

Nice signature, JayKay!

	25-10-2001 18:03									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Zealot I would like to see MOM2 too. Nice signature, JayKay!

Hey...another portuguese in Apolyton!!

I keep bumping on portuguese!! I'm glad, each days that passes, we (portuguese) are becoming more and more on this site!!

Hope we'll get to play Civ sometime!!

BTW, Obrigado!! Thanks, i like my signature too!!

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Vasco da Gama (Discoverer of the Maritime path to India);
and Pedro Įlvares Cabral (Discoverer of Brazil in 1500)

	25-10-2001 20:39									#13
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I'd love to see a (good) MOM2 too...haven't played it in years because of all the difficulty getting it to run, but IMO it was one of the most imaginative TBS games I've seen. It'd be great to follow up a new MOO with a new MOM...wish us luck.

	25-10-2001 21:01									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Stormhound wish us luck.

Good luck or bad luck? (just kidding)

Speaking on MOM, I still remeber my early games that I was building roads on every city tile, expecting to have a trade boost, ą la Civ...

	27-10-2001 02:59									#15
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You do get a trade boost from roads, but it was based upon connecting cities together, no by having roads in surrounding map tiles.

	27-10-2001 19:31									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba Would be nice to take 'fantasy' gaming back to TBS. Right now, RPGs seem to have a monopoly on 'fantasy'.

Heroes of Might and Magic, Age of Wonders, Disciples, all of which supposedly have sequels coming out. Don't understand this one.

Still, would be nice to add MoM2 to that list, eh?

	27-10-2001 23:21									#17
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Uhhhm..... Lets see. HoMM and Age of Wonders are 4X TBS games the same way Birth of the Federation is a 4X TBS game. ie. They've almost got all the right elements but its just not quite as much fun.

Don't know about Disciples, never played it.

The only decent-non RPG fantasy game I've seen out recently are the Kohan games, and they are Real Time Tactics games. (I refuse to call any game in that genre strategy, because they are so not strategy games). I must admit though, for RTT games, the Kohans have one of the most creative designs I've seen in a long time.

	28-10-2001 21:59									#18
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I never got to play MOM , but it sounds like an excellent game, so I hope you suceed in releasing MOM2.

	29-10-2001 01:14									#19
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A mom2 would be so sweet.

As for the original mom, it runs great in winME but with no sound. WinMe can play all old dos games really good.

Possibility

	30-10-2001 19:07									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Jack the Bodiless I've been hoping for MOM2 for years. And I've heard that DOS support in Windows XP isn't very good, so I may be forced to choose between Windows XP and Master of Magic... Heck, even a fully Windows-friendly version of MOM with no other changes would be worth buying.

Games installed on my PC:
SMAC/X
MoO2 which I sometimes play
Stars! which it's too demanding now for my depleted brain

and...

on a true DOS 6.22 partition starting right before the 2Gb limit, and which I boot from making it active thanks to BootMagic tool, MoM (and Machiavelli the Prince)

For all the problems SMAC has, it has some knack making it a great game anyway.
Being pissed at how Firaxis handled their whole Customer Care, I was determined to not give them a cent for CivIII.
But, but... if actually much more money goes to Infogrames than to Firaxis, and if that can support the cause of MoM 2, welllll.....

	30-10-2001 19:35									#21
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Much more money from this point forward will go to Infogrames than Firaxis, to be sure. Firaxis has likely gotten most of the money they'll see out of it by this point. That's just the difference between being the publisher and being the developer...the developer gets paid to make the thing, and the publisher risks the big money trying to sell it.

	22-11-2001 13:30									#22
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I have been hoping for MoM2 for years.

	22-11-2001 18:18									#23
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Ahem... has anyone of you MOM fans (me being one myself ) played Age of Wonders? If not, let me tell you it's pretty close of being a clone of MOM (better graphics, enhanced gameplay etc.) but most certainly it lacks some magick of MOM (in terms of addiction, that is).

So, instead of lobbying Infogrames to release MOM2, let's see what's going on with AOW2 - they might just hit bullseye with the second re-incarnation of the good ole MOM

BTW I still have MOM on my HDD and it plays wonderfully in my WindowsMe machine - no sound problems, no partitions no nothing. It plays smooth as a silk glove (and fast as hell too )

	24-11-2001 15:11									#24
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I have played Age of Wonders. It was awful. It struck me as a poor Warlords 3 clone. Not a patch on Master of Magic. I wish they would do a MoM2. Personally I have some very interesting ideas for a game with the MoM flavour, although I'll probably never get to make it, and the technology around today isn't at the right level for what I'm thinking of.

	26-11-2001 11:37									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Rosacrux BTW I still have MOM on my HDD and it plays wonderfully in my WindowsMe machine - no sound problems, no partitions no nothing. It plays smooth as a silk glove (and fast as hell too )

I think I hate you....
I have 3 PCs. Win98 / Win2K / WinME and I can't get MOM to run for more than 2 mins before crashing.

The sick part is I am a computer tech and a programmer.

My parents old Win95 PC still runs it perfectly (One of the reasons I make the 6+ hour drive home for the holidays).

Sammual

P.S. When will we know if QuickSilver has the green light for MOM2?
As soon as they do? As soon as the paperwork is signed? As soon as the publisher releases the press release?

I have some ideas I would like to discuss about MOM2 and I want to know if the design bible will be done before we get wind of project.

	26-11-2001 13:17									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Sammual I think I hate you.... I have 3 PCs. Win98 / Win2K / WinME and I can't get MOM to run for more than 2 mins before crashing.

Odd. My Win98 machine doesn't have much trouble with it.

quote: I have some ideas I would like to discuss about MOM2 and I want to know if the design bible will be done before we get wind of project.

I don't know if we could get away with starting a MOM2 wishlist here, but getting one going somewhere and being sure that QS knows about it would be a good way to start.

	26-11-2001 17:10									#27
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Maybe we should begin by petitioning MarkG and DanQ for a MOM forum here.

	26-11-2001 17:48									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Jack the Bodiless Maybe we should begin by petitioning MarkG and DanQ for a MOM forum here.

It's not that I oppose the idea, but if one is created it probably would go to the Other Games forum. Because, after all, not even MOO 3 is out yet!

But hey, give it a try.

	26-11-2001 19:04									#29
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Did any of you play Age of Wonders? It's a cross between MOM and Heroes of M&M. Really great game with an excellent map editor. A sequel is now in the works. If you missed this one, you really should try and find it.

	26-11-2001 19:23									#30
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err... mrs_c... that is precisely what we are talking about... and Age of Wonders is mainly a new MOM incarnation with a couple of twixes here and there (and without the quality of the original MOM).


To all the others... a MOM2 wishlist is great... what if you started it in the "Other Games" forum... when it's on track, we could e-mail it to QS... or Infogrames... could be a slight pressure into the right direction (so maybe they do decide to give it a shot after all)...