07-10-2001 08:59									#31
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Bismarck über alles!

Even if he does look like some degenerate genetic experiment gone wrong!

	07-10-2001 14:49									#32
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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut Une petite correction: "J'adore les Français!" Sorry, I'm a pedant in French too

Oh well...

Tres bien JD! BTW how do you put accents in posts?

	07-10-2001 15:49									#33
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How can so many people like the French?

	07-10-2001 16:35									#34
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Well, they did win 2 world wars

	07-10-2001 18:32									#35
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quote: Well, they did win 2 world wars

not exactly, they were taken in a TWO MONTH blitzkrieg by the germans in ww2

	07-10-2001 18:33									#36
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o ya, i voted for the greeks!!!

	07-10-2001 18:49									#37
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quote: Originally posted by jdd2007 not exactly, they were taken in a TWO MONTH blitzkrieg by the germans in ww2

That was merely a minor temporary setback! They still controlled many armies and legions around the world...

One need only look at a map of France and Germany before, and after WW2 to conclude: the French have saved Europe from the fascists/Germans!

	07-10-2001 19:45									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Assur That was merely a minor temporary setback! They still controlled many armies and legions around the world... One need only look at a map of France and Germany before, and after WW2 to conclude: the French have saved Europe from the fascists/Germans!

ROFLMAO!

	07-10-2001 20:21									#39
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Orange, what is that in your avatar?

	07-10-2001 22:36									#40
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I intend to play as the French myself

	07-10-2001 22:57									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Cybergod Oh well... Tres bien JD! BTW how do you put accents in posts?

If you're using Windows, you have to go to the Character Map where you can copy and paste the special letters or memorize the keystrokes. For instance, if you hold alt and press 130 you get é, alt+133 = à, etc. Or you can go to the Control Panel, choose the 'English - International' keyboard and you can press apostrophe+'e' to get é, `+'a' to get à, "+'e' to get ë, etc. Although professionals might be better at explaining it than I:

http://french.about.com/library/bl_faq_accents.htm

	08-10-2001 00:06									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Assur Well, they did win 2 world wars

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wooooo, that was a good one! *wipes tears of laughter from eyes*

My impression of France in every war since Louis Napoleon:

"Aaaaaaargh! Run away! Zee Germans are coming!"

*sound of stomping feet*

	08-10-2001 02:11									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov My impression of France in every war since Louis Napoleon: "Aaaaaaargh! Run away! Zee Germans are coming!" *sound of stomping feet*

How about the Americans?

"It's in Europe. I don't want to go all the way over there...Who cares anyway?"

...Several years later...

"Well, I guess since the war is almost over, we'll send a few troops so we can claim some of those reparations!"

	08-10-2001 02:41									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Stormbringer the vikings aren't in civ 3

I know, but I'm sure they will be ASAP after release

	08-10-2001 03:03									#45
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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut How about the Americans? "It's in Europe. I don't want to go all the way over there...Who cares anyway?" ...Several years later... "Well, I guess since the war is almost over, we'll send a few troops so we can claim some of those reparations!"

You speak of WWI. I don't recall the U.S. claiming in reparations after that war. Could be wrong, but don't think we did!

However, after WWII, which we were instrumental in winning, we DID pump billions of dollars into Europe for rebuilding and to prevent the advance of the Soviets. So nyah.

But, given you are from Deutschland, I sincerely doubt you want to get into an argument over behavior during the World Wars, hmmm?

	08-10-2001 03:11									#46
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I will play as the Aussies as usual

	08-10-2001 03:58									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov But, given you are from Deutschland, I sincerely doubt you want to get into an argument over behavior during the World Wars, hmmm?

It's a common misconception that Germans don't like to talk about the World Wars. If your nation got all fanatical and unsuccessfully tried to take over the world, don't you think you'd joke about it just a little?

But I don't have time to get into an argument over the World Wars (translation: I don't know enough about them to win such an argument )

	08-10-2001 04:02									#48
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Even though Firaxis changed Chinese attribute from scientific to militaristic. I still believe it is still the best civ. You can play the civs you want, but I will pride myself with the country with the most culture.

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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut It's a common misconception that Germans don't like to talk about the World Wars. If your nation got all fanatical and unsuccessfully tried to take over the world, don't you think you'd joke about it just a little? But I don't have time to get into an argument over the World Wars (translation: I don't know enough about them to win such an argument )

Oh I know...I'm an ardent Deutschophile, and find German culture to be one of the greatest in the world. However, I also have no problem confronting honestly the role Germany played in the World Wars. I would not be so critical of them in the first world war--France and England share a great deal of the blame for that situation, as do Austria, Russia, Serbia, etc. It was a pan-European bit of carnage, and no one nation was more responsible than any other. But history is written by the victors, so Germany is usually saddled with the blame.

Oh, and U.S. President Wilson was ardently against the imposition of harsh retribution against Germany after the war, felt it was unjust and would only lead to further troubles down the road. But France and England didn't listen...

Cheers

	08-10-2001 04:52									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Oh, and U.S. President Wilson was ardently against the imposition of harsh retribution against Germany after the war, felt it was unjust and would only lead to further troubles down the road. But France and England didn't listen... Cheers

During the redrawing of the borders, he also warned against the clumping of ethnicities together into countries like Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia, but again they didn't listen...well at least Czechoslovakia split up peacefully. Wilson had the right ideas about Europe but I'm not sure if his domestic policies were as wise...I highly suggest you read "Lies My Teacher Told Me" (I'd tell you the author/publisher but I lent the book to a friend). It's a book about the errors in high school history textbooks. A nice historical read.

	08-10-2001 05:24									#51
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Either Romans or Americans...those are the two civ's I usually play as anyway...

	08-10-2001 06:03									#52
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Probably the French, as that is my heritage, and their attributes also compliment my playing style.

	08-10-2001 12:56									#53
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I would play with any random civ without any of the specific abilities, just to get a feel what the game plays like without any special ability. i.e. to judge their effect I would prefer to start playing without them and first learn about culture etc. in this game.

	08-10-2001 15:22									#54
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I'll probably play with the Germans or the Russians. Scientific is a big plus in my opinion.

	08-10-2001 23:24									#55
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Nothing to say more than... Aztecs will arise!

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Vasyl

	08-10-2001 23:40									#56
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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut Oh no! The French are behind the Greeks! Everybody vote for the French! Mais non! Les Français sont après les Grecs! Tout le monde doit voter pour les Français! :faiteslemaintenant!: (oh wait the French smily won't work )

I used to punish French civ in almost every game I played (really).
Why? Because of their betrayal in my first game!!! (civ2) From allies to worst enemies!


Vasyl

	09-10-2001 00:13									#57
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quote: Originally posted by vasyl I used to punish French civ in almost every game I played (really). Why? Because of their betrayal in my first game!!! (civ2) From allies to worst enemies! Vasyl

I also usually end up beating the snot out of the French. They were quite obnoxious in both Civs.

	09-10-2001 16:15									#58
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i shall enjoy exterminating yanks and french playing as bismarck and catherine the great

	09-10-2001 18:52									#59
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No doubt, the Americans on a world map

	09-10-2001 19:03									#60
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Yeah, I'll probably play my second game on a world map with the Americans as well.

Interesting spread on the poll As of yet, no one starting off with the Japs...