14-10-2001 04:00									#1
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In the Civilopedia picture of the Stealth Bomber ( http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img15.jpg ) there is something called "Rate of Fire". Is this the replacement of Firepower? We do know that HP is gone, so is this firepower?

	14-10-2001 04:04									#2
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Hmm, don't know. But what I have heard is that aircraft don't function like they have in the past- they exert an 'operational range' around them instead of acting like fast moving ground units. ROF may be related to this.

	14-10-2001 04:05									#3
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Don't know about stealth bombers, but battleships can bombard once for every movement point they have (4x). Could be the same thing.

David

	14-10-2001 04:06									#4
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It could be the number of times it is allowed to bombard per turn...

	14-10-2001 04:08									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Bill3000 We do know that HP is gone...

Hit Points aren't gone!

	14-10-2001 04:11									#6
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RIght, or else how could armies pool them?

	14-10-2001 04:12									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Fiil Hit Points aren't gone!

I meant HP as the amount - it matters on if they are green, Veteran, Elite, etc.

In Civ2, Warriors would have 10 HP, Armor 30 HP, etc.

	14-10-2001 04:29									#8
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Hey Bill, a brilliant discovery, not only have you discovered an interesting concept relating to battle but you have also being able to confirm a new resource in the game; alumin(i)um...

Nice one, are there any more screenshots at this site, I would like to investigate!!!

	14-10-2001 04:46									#9
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quote: Hey Bill, a brilliant discovery, not only have you discovered an interesting concept relating to battle

Sorry, PH, but you are incorrect on this one. Well, I can't seem to find the thread in which this discovery was made but I do know that the thread was started around August. Lockstep is the one who made the discover first. I just thought that credit should be given to the correct person. You know I'm not lying because what would be the benefit of that?

	14-10-2001 05:09									#10
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quote: Originally posted by TechWins Well, I can't seem to find the thread in which this discovery was made but I do know that the thread was started around August. Lockstep is the one who made the discover first. I just thought that credit should be given to the correct person.

I guess you are referring to this thread: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=23695. BTW, thanks for the compliment TechWins, but it was mostly speculation back in early august that hitpoints had changed and firepoints were gone. The matter became more obvious when civ3.com went online, and the first unique units stats showed only attack, defense and movement points.

	14-10-2001 06:05									#11
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quote: . BTW, thanks for the compliment TechWins

You are most welcome. The only reason why I remember that discussion is because I was the one discussing it with you. Good job on being the FIRST one to figure it out.

	14-10-2001 12:21									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Bill3000 I meant HP as the amount - it matters on if they are green, Veteran, Elite, etc. In Civ2, Warriors would have 10 HP, Armor 30 HP, etc.

Dan mentions in a thread at Civfanatics* that an advantage of Elite units is that they have more Hit Points:

• Green: 3 HP
  
• Veteran: 4 HP
  
• Elite: 5 HP
  

	14-10-2001 16:54									#13
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So does this mean they have more hitpoints added to their basic number derived from the unit type?

	14-10-2001 17:09									#14
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quote: Originally posted by LoD So does this mean they have more hitpoints added to their basic number derived from the unit type?

No, it means that their basic number is the same (3), and the units differ 'only' in attack, defense and movement.

	14-10-2001 17:21									#15
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So am I wrong or the only difference between a Green Tank and a Green Warrior will be their ADM ratings?

	14-10-2001 17:24									#16
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IŽd say so. But it will be a BIG difference, bigger than in Civ2.

	14-10-2001 17:31									#17
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Regarding hitpoints being the same - Hmmmm that does sound rather insane but I'm sure it'll work out AND remove any of the Phalanx - Tank problem a certian other game had.......

Regarding attached picture - I hate to say it but the description is pish. It sounds like it's been written in portugese then translated using altavista.

Also the tech name 'stealth' is obscured by the aluminium. These are of course minor things but it all adds up.............

	14-10-2001 21:47									#18
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Allright, that covers up HP. *sigh*

Now, what about Rate of Fire? Dan?