15-10-2001 01:01									#1
	Direct x8 and Civ 3 Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

What I am wondering is if certain things can be turned off eg Unit movement. Is it possible to just have them stationary when i move them (they go to the place I select but don't animate). Many of my games slow down with DX7, so can I turn off things that will make the game go slower for me ?.
I was promised a new comp this month, but my mum stepped in and ordered my dad to get new furniture for the front room.

	15-10-2001 01:05									#2
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I don't know for sure, of course, but I imagine animations can be turned off.

	15-10-2001 01:09									#3
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I hope so, if not I'll only be able to play at weekends on my Grandads athlon 1.2 ghz Damnit i want that computer.

	15-10-2001 02:43									#4
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According to Infogrames DirectX 7 is the requirement. See here.

David

	16-10-2001 09:06									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Crouchback According to Infogrames DirectX 7 is the requirement. See here. David

According to Civ3 site. you need a DirectX 8a video card. Alot of video cards intended for workstations and home office systems have problems with DirectX. The higher the DirectX, the worse the problems. I can run CAD and photo editing programs fine, but even with the animation turned off a DirectX game will eventually freeze up my system. Guess its time to buy a GeForce2.

	16-10-2001 09:09									#6
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DirectX 8 has a BIG performance boost over DirectX 7, regardless of the machine its on (provided of course that the machine supports it )

	16-10-2001 12:38									#7
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The news just gets worse! It looks like nothing short of a new computer is going to be able to play Civ3! Woe is me!

	16-10-2001 16:01									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Nemo DirectX 8 has a BIG performance boost over DirectX 7, regardless of the machine its on (provided of course that the machine supports it )

Hmm??? That is nonsense. DirectX8 adds support for exotic programmable 3D graphics mainly. There is no performance boost.

Also, DirectX8 can be installed on almost all PC's (videocard type determines that), but the question is whether it will deliver a bearable visual experience or a slide show.

	16-10-2001 16:05									#9
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Hehe.

Pentium 4 1,6GHZ ................ Check!
Geforce2 .............................. Check!

Life is just about priorities!

	16-10-2001 16:31									#10
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quote: Originally posted by campmajor! Pentium 4 1,6GHZ ................ Check! Geforce2 .............................. Check! Life is just about priorities!

A wife without a payed job ................ Check!
Two young children to feed ................ Check!
Some unexpected expense .................Check!
My new notebook .............. no way, forget it!

Tell me about priorities!

	16-10-2001 17:32									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Adm.Naismith A wife without a payed job ................ Check! Two young children to feed ................ Check! Some unexpected expense .................Check! My new notebook .............. no way, forget it! Tell me about priorities!

A wife without a payed job ................ Check!
Two young children to feed ................ Check!
Some unexpected expense .................Check!
Taxes...................................................Check!
an old Car............................................Check
Yups... known situation.

	16-10-2001 17:55									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Adm.Naismith A wife without a payed job ................ Check! Two young children to feed ................ Check! Some unexpected expense .................Check! My new notebook .............. no way, forget it! Tell me about priorities!

Surely Lord Vorkosigan can deal with trifles like that, eh, "Adm. Naismith"?

	16-10-2001 20:33									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Grim Legacy Hmm??? That is nonsense. DirectX8 adds support for exotic programmable 3D graphics mainly. There is no performance boost. Also, DirectX8 can be installed on almost all PC's (videocard type determines that), but the question is whether it will deliver a bearable visual experience or a slide show.

Go checkout some multimedia benchmarks comparing DirectX7 and DirectX8, and unless there is something opposing those that I have seen in my magazines, then I must say it is not nonsense.

	16-10-2001 20:41									#14
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I concur Nemo.

	16-10-2001 20:47									#15
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16 years old...... check
Making £25 a week..... check
Gonna take me about a year to buy my own comp..... check

Upgraded the one downstairs ( this one ) to a 1.3 Ghz athlon AMD though so no complaints.........

	17-10-2001 00:34									#16
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You're right Nemo, but DirectX 8.0a has a significant beta element that makes it a little tempremental on older/non standard graphics cards like mine.

quote: Dear Santa, I've been no so bad this year (well week anyway), could I please have a new geforce card for xmas. David

So I'm thirty-five, but I ain't that proud.

	17-10-2001 01:18									#17
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IIRC they said that all animations should be able to turn off, but that was a while ago, and things might have changed.

	17-10-2001 01:32									#18
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17 in college.........Check
No Income...........Check
£12 a week bus fairs...Check
Loaded dad, who won't give me any money.....Check
Grandfather with Athlon 1.2 ghz, TNT2 Video card ...Checkmate

Though he did agree to a new comp, until my mum ordered new furniture

That my friends, is my never ending strife

Though the story is long here is a quick update on my current situation.
We had 2 PC's a P1 200mmx and my P2 300. A RAM chip melted on the P 200 and Fu*ked up the Mother board, but the Vid card in it supported DX7. Now we have the P2 300 in the front room and bits and pieces of one in my room. Dad got a £1200 bonus and agreed to get a new PC for me until mum stepped in.
I suppose i'll wait until I get civ3 then try the Vid card from the other PC, if that don't work then i'll moan until I get a new comp and play at weekends until it arrives. Although my dad is a little tight fisted, he does give in in the end (he's one of those 'I made my money, You make yours' kind of people).

And don't reply GET A JOB. I have tried, but no-one wants to take on someone part time

	17-10-2001 01:59									#19
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Amd 1700 + - Check!
Geforce 3 - Check!
512 megabytes of RAM - Check!
19 " screen - Check!
4 mb of dedicated Internet capacity - Check!
High end desktop theater system and advanced soundcard - Check!

Ahhh....

I agree; life is all about priorities.

	17-10-2001 07:11									#20
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Let's see... my priorities.
1. Food and lodging for wife and 3 kids, ..actually, my teenager counts as an adult the way they eat.
2. Keeping 2 cars running and insured.
3. Getting one car out of shop after accident.
4. Braces for daughter.
5. Son's birthday this month.
6. .....
21. New computer.....yeah right,...or maybe a DirX8 compatible video card if my system will handle it. I have an AMD K6, with 64MB RAM. Can I make that work with DirX8? Please advise.

	17-10-2001 07:45									#21
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Hope my Celeron 700, 256Mb runs the damn game.

	17-10-2001 07:51									#22
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"4. Braces for daughter"

ouch. doesn't work have a dental plan that pays for it?

	17-10-2001 08:02									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Maccabee2 Let's see... my priorities. 21. New computer.....yeah right,...or maybe a DirX8 compatible video card if my system will handle it. I have an AMD K6, with 64MB RAM. Can I make that work with DirX8? Please advise.

Need to know what you have now , check in system properties under Display Adapter.

	17-10-2001 08:14									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Swissy Need to know what you have now , check in system properties under Display Adapter.

...and the model of you monitor (just in case )

	17-10-2001 09:42									#25
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Well I've got some 700 Mhz and 128 megs of ram, though I only have a celeron. I say, bring on those unit graphics! And Civ III, I really want Civ III now...

But I would buy a new computer if I had to

	17-10-2001 13:02									#26
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper Surely Lord Vorkosigan can deal with trifles like that, eh, "Adm. Naismith"?

But you are speaking about my clone brother, Mark. He's the financial genius. I was know as a military leader, but now my Imperial Auditor role force me to keep my hands clean and my morality clear as a diamond, or His Majesty Gregor The Emperor will end asking my head ...

	17-10-2001 13:10									#27
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quote: Originally posted by CyberbugFredrik Amd 1700 + - Check! Geforce 3 - Check! 512 megabytes of RAM - Check! 19 " screen - Check! 4 mb of dedicated Internet capacity - Check! High end desktop theater system and advanced soundcard - Check! Ahhh.... I agree; life is all about priorities.

All that could be still shaked by a "compatibility issue/bug", as happened with SMAC...

Just to let you sleep afraid, my friend...

	19-10-2001 08:27									#28
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Thanks. My display adapter is a Trident 211, 9600 or 9300 series. My monitor is a Hitachi "SuperScan Supreme 752".
Thanks for asking.
I would hate to buy the game and then find out m y s y stem woj n 't work . P a rd on the s ip el ling.g ggMy 3 yr o ld son is hel pin g nmenn n n t yp e . ? (Cut i t out , son.!)

	19-10-2001 08:51									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Col Bigspear Grandfather with Athlon 1.2 ghz, TNT2 Video card ...Checkmate

The TNT2 is a sad vid chip by today's stardards. I don't understand how you can have a powerful system with such a lousy video card.

	19-10-2001 10:00									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Maccabee2 Thanks. My display adapter is a Trident 211, 9600 or 9300 series. My monitor is a Hitachi "SuperScan Supreme 752". Thanks for asking.

The monitor is fine,all the Hitachi 19" monitors support well over the minimum rez for Civ3.

The display adapter I can't tell. If it is a Trident 9600 series chip, then it doesn't support DirectX. You would have to rely on the DirectX software to render the 3D effects. Not a problem with sufficient RAM, but it will be slower going.

To see what version of DirectX you have and how well it works:

Search for files or folder and type in: DXDIAG.exe
It is in different folders depending on the version of Windows you have and how you originally got DirectX.

When you find it, run it. It is the DirectX diagnostic program. It will tell you what version of DirectX you have and have a bunch of tests that will show you how well DirectX does(or doesn't) work on your system.