24-06-2002 06:24									#241
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WOW..... i dont' have the patience for that..when turns take 1/2 an hour i know i am my breaking point..guess i will never set any records maybe one day when i have the time i can try this out again lol

keep us posted

	24-06-2002 18:01									#242
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my breaking point is when enemy turns take 1/2 hour
especially when those cursed persians who are based on an island just a few squares from my romans start building a huge fleet of puny destroyers and obsolete cruisers!!

instead of attacking me they just move they boats all the time, and that's when i quit the game

	24-06-2002 18:08									#243
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus my breaking point is when enemy turns take 1/2 hour

Waaw, how do you do that,they really must have a huge army...
(or are we talking Civ 3?)

hmmm...I have only 3more chemical ellements left as names for my cities...what should I take next...?

Shade,one more turn

	24-06-2002 18:19									#244
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BTW Shade, what are you city names anyways? default, made up, periodic table of elements, sports stadiums etc figments of fantasy...

a list alphabetized and/or in the history of their foundation would be appreciated since you have plenty of time

dont forget the ones which may have become destroyed or under barbarian control

	24-06-2002 18:29									#245
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever BTW Shade, what are you city names anyways? default, made up, periodic table of elements, sports stadiums etc figments of fantasy...

I started with the default ones...then the backups...took over a whole lot of AI cities(let them keep their name, except those who got to the backup-names)...
and then I just took my periodic table next to me and went through it(following Z)...I believe I'm now at Z=106
(Seaborgium...this is one of the really recently named ellements)
Up until Z=109 they have a name, after that it's something like 1-1-0 (uun) they start naming them.
Z=113 isn't found yet
Z=114 hasn't gotten an official name (except uuq )

quote: a list alphabetized and/or in the history of their foundation would be appreciated since you have plenty of time dont forget the ones which may have become destroyed or under barbarian control

Look at the first page, my second post contains all names of cities I have(or had) in the order I got them(by building or capture).

Shade.
[edit]...made some corrections to the Z-values...the things standing there now are correct[/edit]

	24-06-2002 18:43									#246
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Ok, nevermind, i was being cheeky....didn't realize you had this much time on your hands

i am astonished and without words rare for me indeed.

do you have a save you could post, i am interested in looking at your map?

but i have to go to work, so you have 8 hours to post that , if your too busy with your game right now

i take it there is only one ai city left

	24-06-2002 18:47									#247
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever Ok, nevermind, i was being cheeky....didn't realize you had this much time on your hands i am astonished and without words rare for me indeed. do you have a save you could post, i am interested in looking at your map? but i have to go to work, so you have 8 hours to post that , if your too busy with your game right now i take it there is only one ai city left

Don't worry I didn't just post that list, It was there already from the beginning, just kept it updated.
If you wan't to see a save there are some posted I think the bottom of p6 (and further)...

enjoy

Shade

	24-06-2002 18:59									#248
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If I capture cities, I like to keep the names so it's easier to find. (at least most of the time)

	24-06-2002 19:10									#249
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Thanks shade..i will check it out when i return from work......

Rah i do the same.....lets me remember where and how my conquests evovled

	24-06-2002 22:55									#250
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I thought the last round of named elements went up through 111.

	24-06-2002 23:19									#251
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Xin Yu said, "That's why I'm working on my utility program to improve game play (manage multiple cities at the same time). …I stopped for a while since I have another game to finish. Now that is done and I'm back to my program."

1. Status report?
2. What can anyone do to help?

	25-06-2002 02:13									#252
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow I thought the last round of named elements went up through 111.

I have names to number 109 I believe...
the others get "numbernames" 110=one-one-zero=(in addapted latin) un-un-nil-->uun
Ans I thought the heaviest ever created was 118...(should look it up could have been an error...)

Btw the program of Xin Yu sounds promissing.

Shade

	25-06-2002 02:25									#253
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Status: still working on Lazyciv version 3 now and plan to finish it by this weekend. Then I'll move to the civ manager utility. I can give civmanager a quick kickoff if don't consider scenarios (i.e., hard code the building cost for each unit slot). I'm a little bit tired so perhaps I'll just do that and try to cover scenarios later.

	25-06-2002 22:38									#254
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Once I try to maximize score as Shade.
My civ was very large : up to 255 cities (with one or two foreign cities for trading and keeping the game alive) and 300000 h, a lot of future techs...
I took the normal names for cities, renaming the numerous backups. But the difficulty for homing or trading was to remember were all my cities were : I choose to add to the name a mention of the place in the map, cut out in sectors, as 1N (for sector one, North), 2S, 3C (center of the map), and so on.
BTW, for maximizing, I didn't start on a random map, but on the large map with many rivers and specials, built for a comparison OCC game : the OCC23.sav file.
With turns during one hour or one hour and a half (freight transport, rushbuying what was remaining to be completed...), the game became very boring , and I didn't wait 2020 for landing SS ship. I launched as soon as I was near to reach the max population.

	26-06-2002 00:41									#255
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......and what was your score?

Yes, hitting the launch button out of shear madness caused by boredom is quite normal. I did it, Ming did it. and I'm sure there were many others.

	26-06-2002 01:28									#256
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uggg...i did it too...but not at max score thats for sure

	26-06-2002 13:17									#257
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Obviously you have to hold off building the ship until 2013. That way you can't launch on impulse.

	26-06-2002 17:28									#258
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IMPULSE.

By the time I launched it. (20 or so years early)
Every Fiber in my being was screaming to press the button to end my suffering in five turns.

You really have to experience it to know how badly you want to launch to finish it.

RAH

	27-06-2002 23:43									#259
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"Every fiber in my being screaming" sounds like an impulse to me. A very, very strong impulse.

Might try if Xin gets his handy-dandy "nonproductivity" tools working. Lets see, where in my schedule can I arrange to quit life for a few months?

	28-06-2002 00:25									#260
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There is a piece of information I need in the civ manager utility. I need to know the effect of the musketeer slot and the knight slot. Checked the Sleague page but the information there is too general. Anybody can help? Thanks ahead.

	30-06-2002 03:49									#261
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I think DaveV's webpage has info on the effect of Gunpowder Advance slot in ToT. It implied that it was different from Civ2 2.42/MGE. Knights and Musketeers are Barbarian units. I assume whatever unit you put in those slots would appear as Barbs. Is the Barbarian Papers also on DaveV's site?

	15-09-2002 23:46									#262
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quote: Originally posted by rah Yes, hitting the launch button out of shear madness caused by boredom is quite normal. I did it, Ming did it. and I'm sure there were many others.

an other way to end the madness is crashing your pc so hard, the only solution is a total format .
(and then the only save you can recover is 20 or more turns old...No way in hell I'll be playing them again...since my actual goal got killed already a long time ago.(beter start over with the new knowledge )

Shade

	16-09-2002 03:30									#263
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quote: Originally posted by shade .(beter start over with the new knowledge ) Shade

their coming to take you away today, their coming to take you away.

	16-09-2002 04:52									#264
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" an other way to end the madness is crashing your pc so hard, the only solution is a total format."

Yeah. I can envision that. Freedom, by any means necessary, eh?

It will be entertaining to see whether you go back for more, having been through the experience once.

	16-09-2002 17:00									#265
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once = insanity
twice = incarceration of Shade necessary for the safety of the people around him.

	17-09-2002 03:42									#267
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Shade, have you tried CivManager?

	17-09-2002 14:22									#268
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Where can I find it?
(I'll see how usefull is when I get my next attack of insanity )

Shade

	17-09-2002 15:06									#269
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Keep taking the tablets Shade - very much rather you than me...

SG[1]

	17-09-2002 18:30									#270
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While I personally think you are totally crazy shade...

Good luck on your next attempt if by some chance you really do try again...