21-10-2001 23:15									#1
	Do you plan on using the in game tutorial? Tired of ads?

From the new civ3 preview:

quote: If you're new to the series, then an in-depth tutorial can help you become accustomed, as you're shepherded carefully through every aspect of building up your own civilization.

Everytime i buy a new computer game, i always like to go through the tutorial. I expect with civ3, it won't be necessary, but I probably will anyway. . . what about you, do you usually do the tutorials, or do you learn by trial and error? Do you plan on using the civ3 tutorial?

	21-10-2001 23:18									#2
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I plan on going through it before playing just to see the new features and get a feel for them. IMHO this is better than just jumping into the game only half way knowing what your doing, and getting whooped.

	21-10-2001 23:21									#3
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yes, i agree, the new features, along with the interface. i imagine some of the hotkeys will be the same (f - fortify, s - sentry, b - build city, etc. . ) but the rest of the interface i mean. .

	21-10-2001 23:32									#4
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yep, i think its gonna be fun

	21-10-2001 23:35									#5
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I usually go through the tutorial for about five minutes and say "the hell with this I'm playing the game". With Civ3 I won't even bother to spend five minutes with the tutorial because of my extreme excitement I will have plus my familiarity with Civ.

	21-10-2001 23:39									#6
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Think I will skip the tutorial this time, I'll go back to my old ways of making mistakes to learn, seems to work better for me that way.

	22-10-2001 00:00									#7
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I think I'll go through it if for no other reason than to see what kind of job they did on it.

	22-10-2001 00:16									#8
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quote: Originally posted by TechWins I usually go through the tutorial for about five minutes and say "the hell with this I'm playing the game". With Civ3 I won't even bother to spend five minutes with the tutorial because of my extreme excitement I will have plus my familiarity with Civ.

I did the same thing with Space Empires 4. I'll do like Sn00py, just dive right in learn from my mistakes.

quote: I think I'll go through it if for no other reason than to see what kind of job they did on it.

You're a sad man, ixnay37!

	22-10-2001 00:27									#9
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I hate reading the directions for anything, I'd rather figure things out for myself, but I usually do the tutorial, just to get the feel for the interface of a game and refer to the manual later if I need something.

	22-10-2001 00:31									#10
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Markos or anyone else with the ability.

Could we please have that..... T word censored?

I find it kind of offensive.

	22-10-2001 01:30									#11
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Yes, I will use tutorial because I am eager to see ever bit of Civ3 ...

	22-10-2001 02:28									#12
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I will use the tutorial and read the whole manual before starting my first game of Civ3. Nothing´s better than pleasant anticipation.

	22-10-2001 02:43									#13
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Wont use it. I always RTFM and proceed to play. I like it best because its the fastest to learn all the ways to lose by scewing up and also what screw ups you can recover from.

	22-10-2001 02:51									#14
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HA! I will never use the tutorial!

	22-10-2001 02:54									#15
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lol, I couldn't help it, I sat here, reading what ixnay37 said, and remembered something else he said a while ago which also was really silly, and I just had to ask, are you being serious about your posts?

	22-10-2001 03:05									#16
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Like Lockstep I will be playing the tutorial and fully reading the manual before my first game - oh the anticipation. It's a pity there is no printed Tech tree with the standard edition though.

	22-10-2001 03:11									#17
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Yes, I was being semi-serious. Like the others here, I'll probably read the whole manual and play the tutorial to build up anticipation. But, I also would like to see how Firaxis made the tutorial - I've seen some horrible tutorials in games, and also some good ones.

	22-10-2001 05:21									#18
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Yeah, I do. Not so much to learn the game, but more to just have fun with it.

	22-10-2001 05:28									#19
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hell no, thats a waste of time, sides its more fun to figure things out yourself..

	22-10-2001 06:14									#20
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Yep. I will play the tutorial and I will read the manual, cover to cover. For me, it is all part of the fun (that, or I am a very very sad person... )

	22-10-2001 06:28									#21
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I usually read through the manual until I'm confused and then I start the game. When the game confuses me I go back to the manual and back and forth and later, in the 'eye of the confusion' things suddenly become clear and the game and I get along fine.
With Civ 3 I'll probably try the tutorial and when (if) I go to bed that night I'll start reading the manual.
You know, it's a sad thing. When I first started teaching in Korea I would tell students, "My interests include travel, studying Korean, writing letters, playing guitar, and reading." After six years I still tell them that but it's a big fat lie. I spend a lot of time playing computer games and writing useless posts like this one at Apolyton.

	22-10-2001 06:28									#22
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If the tutorial is included (which it should be), then yes, I will use it on my first game. Using the Tutorial once is like reading the manual ... and i plan on doing both. Of course, I will most likely be going back to the manual more than once to double check on various aspects of the game.

	22-10-2001 11:43									#23
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Ill try the tutorial, just to get used to the keys (if different) and have a look at the trade/espionage menus...

After that, or even during, ill start a new game. The manual is for when i am going to bed, at uni 'listening' to lectures or on the toilet

	22-10-2001 12:04									#24
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I'll first try the tutorial just to explore around a bit and get used to the feel of a new interface. After finishing it then I'll start a regular game.

	22-10-2001 12:13									#25
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Oh yes, I will do the tutorial. I shall be standing there with the box in my hands. I install the game and browse the manual. Doing the tutorial will teach a bit and exite a lot. When that is done, I will become a catoon character...

"What are we going to do tonight?"
"Same as we do every night. Try to take over the world!!! BWUAHAHAHAH!"

	22-10-2001 14:15									#26
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why is there even a manual for any game? it's as if games are hard to work out how to play

	22-10-2001 14:28									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Sn00py why is there even a manual for any game? it's as if games are hard to work out how to play

Its for when you're not near a computer, you can read it and pretend you are playing the game

	22-10-2001 17:02									#28
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I always use the tutorial for games new to me. Civ 3 will have lots of new concepts, but if the manual is very good, I'll skip the tutorial.

	22-10-2001 17:29									#29
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I'll skip the tutorial and dive right into a game. As I play, I'll slowly read the manual whenever I have free time that cannot be spent at the computer.

	22-10-2001 17:38									#30
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Hello,


I definately will just jump right in and start playing. I've done this with every game I've ever played the first time since I started playing computer games. Call me sick but I enjoy getting spanked by the computer as I'm trying to learn the game. It just makes the challenge all the more exciting as all I can think each time I start a new game is I gotta beat this thing!

Can't wait till release day.......