01-12-2001 05:54									#61
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kewl thanks.doese it run simultaneously

	01-12-2001 05:56									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo hey zopper if you want a target for some theivery check out netherlandia 35,12. they may be too small for you but any damage you can do on them would be appreciated.

He's a bit too small and there's not much too steal actually.
I'll let my thieves rest (I've just ended a war) and perhaps I'll strike him for you tomorrow

	01-12-2001 05:56									#63
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wow that looks much better....wondered how they got that to work

	01-12-2001 05:58									#64
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever kewl thanks.doese it run simultaneously

Uhm not exactly, I start it together with Windows, so it always runs when my PC is on, but it reacts immediately when you're copying a CB, for example.

	01-12-2001 06:03									#65
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If you copy your info from the Menu-page, you can even do your own CB-analysis...well, sort of

The Province of TriQuestra of TEARS (6:8)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.23 Beta]

Utopian Date: April 20th, YR4
RL Date: December 1st, 2001 (1:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: The Wise Sir Belthazor
Personality & Race: The Sage, Halfling
Land: 917 Acres
Money: 60,027gc
Food: 98,047 bushels
Runes: 12,673 runes
Population: 24,082 citizens (26.26 per Acre)
Peasants: 5,233 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 11,234 (72% Utilization)
Trade Balance: -441,864gc

Soldiers: 914 (73.1% estimated draft rate)
Spearmen: 0
Archers: 9,783 (39,132 defense points)
Half-Giants: 1,895 (9,475 offense / 7,580 defense)
War-Horses: 0

Total Attack points: 11,303 (12.33 per Acre)
Practical (60% elites): 7,513 (8.19 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 48,540 (52.93 per Acre)
Practical (40% elites): 43,992 (47.97 per Acre)

Thieves: 5,007 (5.46 per Acre / 64% Stealth)
Wizards: 1,250 (1.36 per Acre / 76% Mana)

Buildings: 826gc to build, 639gc to raze
Away bonus: 26,165gc (12h) / 78,495gc (20h)

	01-12-2001 06:05									#66
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i have 110% util...but my employment rate is 70% and no matter what i build i can't get it higher...i guess i need more mines or something...banks.... just not more houses....what about farms will that get my employment up

	01-12-2001 06:23									#67
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Raise your draft

You just don't have enough jobs and since all buildings other than houses can hold the same amount of people, it won't really matter what you build.
If you raise your draft, you take people away from the unemployed area and put them in the military.

	01-12-2001 06:26									#68
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ok great...i will do that and i have the cash to train those into def specs

	01-12-2001 09:12									#69
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Okay, I just started. I'm Felch X of Feltasia.

Faery, using the Sage. My little number is 2:21.

Any help would be appreciated.

	01-12-2001 18:12									#70
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Faery...

Try this:
Start with defense specialists only (IIRC, they're called Magicians).
Focus yourself on training Wizards and Thieves. This means a building strat something like this:
205 - 300 acres
10% Mills
25% Homes
15% Banks
20% Watchtowers
20% Guilds
10% Towers

Make sure you end up with five Magicians per acre and roughly 1-2 Thieves per acre.

I have to go to work now, I'll try and give you a more detailed guideline tonight

	01-12-2001 22:27									#71
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zopper thanks for all your help..my fledgling empire is starting to make its move !

	03-12-2001 20:06									#72
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So, how's everyone now?

I'm in war again, we also changed Monarch.
This is an easy war ...just playing for honor now

	04-12-2001 04:18									#73
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i build up and then we have a war and i get knocked back down to what level i was before.

	04-12-2001 04:47									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo i build up and then we have a war and i get knocked back down to what level i was before.

O...that's just cruel...

What is your defense per acre?

	06-12-2001 09:36									#75
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wow we got slaughtered...i had to defect after half my kd split..and we lost our monarch due to a double login...etc....yikes now i am somewhere else...

	06-12-2001 14:07									#76
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you defected again?

	06-12-2001 17:22									#77
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We have war with two Kd's...waaaahhh

	06-12-2001 22:28									#78
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Of course. When I decide to stop playing lots of Apolytoners start playing again. Bah.

Can someone please let me know when the next Era begins? Were there any substansial changes in the last 2-3 eras(after personalities were added)?

Oh, 4000 honor points memories...

	07-12-2001 02:37									#79
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Eli,

Next age starts probably in February. But feel free to join now, if you like
My honor is not so high now, 1380 or something, but I'm just experimenting a bit
I think I've figured out a good tactic for the next Age now

	07-12-2001 06:17									#80
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yeah....i defected again....what a mess....almost every province in my KD is under protection we have war for monarch ....lol its a nightmare

	07-12-2001 22:00									#81
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Dont bother going for honor unless you have a strong kingdom backing you up. I was a Halfer Mystic stuck (as usual) in a newbie kingdom. I was very close to 4000 honor points, and then a kingdom full with big badass dwarves decided that they like me and arranged a small honor rape. I ended with 1000 points and quit.
The age before that I was an exploring Elf. That was absolutely boring but I learned a lot about maximising everything and being as effecient as possible. I quit during year 8 after getting 500kNW and deciding that the game is boring.
The two ages before my elf age were great newbie ages.

Conclusion :
A) When you're starting to devote too much time to the game it gets boring.
B) Being King sucks. Trust me, I've tried it for 3 times and it takes all the fun out of the game.

But I'll join now again. Maybe till the end of the age.

	08-12-2001 04:06									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Eli But I'll join now again. Maybe till the end of the age.

Great, where are you now?

And I've changed my tactic completely now, I'm going to go "All-in-One" (Attacker/Wizard/Thief), just as an experiment.

	08-12-2001 14:09									#83
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I didnt join yet. It'll take me at least two days to find the time to number crunch my strategy.

Btw, "All-in-one" is a very difficult strategy. Because then every good thief can steal from you and you cant steal from him, every good wizard can do whatever he wants to you and you wont be able to retaliate and every attacker will be able to attack you without being attacked in retaliation.

	08-12-2001 16:45									#84
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Ok.............

I'll probably be a Mystic Elf. I'll try to grow extremely fast until 2500 acres(hopefully it will take me 3-5 weeks) and then switch to either super thief or super mage. Depends on what kingdom I fall in.

200-500 Acres
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25% Homes
10% Hospitals
10% Towers
10% Guilds
15% Libraries
23% Armories
7% Farms

This is a very preliminary strat though. I just looked on the changes made and wrote these percentages. It seems that I'll have some money problems, so everything is subject to change.

	08-12-2001 17:42									#85
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If you're going to have money problems, why not do this?:

205-500 acres

10% Mills
20% Homes
07% Farms
30% Armories
10% Guilds
10% Towers
13% Banks

	08-12-2001 17:48									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Btw, "All-in-one" is a very difficult strategy. Because then every good thief can steal from you and you cant steal from him, every good wizard can do whatever he wants to you and you wont be able to retaliate and every attacker will be able to attack you without being attacked in retaliation.

I disagree, with 6 tpa and 2-3 wpa, you'll stand very strong against enemy thievery/magic ops.
With 40 dpa all def. specs, you'll always have sufficient dpa standing @ home. (Especially with MP on.)
And I'm training towards 10,000 Half-Giant, which would give me lots of firepower

Of course, my utilization is absolutely horrible

	08-12-2001 18:02									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni If you're going to have money problems, why not do this?: 205-500 acres 10% Mills 20% Homes 07% Farms 30% Armories 10% Guilds 10% Towers 13% Banks

A) I hate mills.
B) It looks like money overkill.
C) I want the library and hospital bonuses for fast early growth.
D) Again, everything is subject to change.

quote: I disagree, with 6 tpa and 2-3 wpa, you'll stand very strong against enemy thievery/magic ops. With 40 dpa all def. specs, you'll always have sufficient dpa standing @ home. (Especially with MP on.) And I'm training towards 10,000 Half-Giant, which would give me lots of firepower Of course, my utilization is absolutely horrible

Maybe you are right. I noticed some really big changes in the military part of the game so maybe my thinking is old.

	08-12-2001 23:15									#88
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Here's my beginning strat.
I'm Bla Bla Bla(40:46).

200-500 Acres
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25% Homes
11% Hospitals
10% Towers
10% Guilds
16% Libraries
20% Armories
8% Farms

People -
0.25*25+0.75*20 = 21.25PPA
Money made-
15*3 = 45GPA
People left = 21.5-15 = 6.25PPA

Food eaten -
21.25*0.25 = 5.3125BPA
Food produced -
0.08*70 = 5.6BPA
Food stocked -
5.6-5.3125 = 0.2875BPA

Spec unit cost -
250*0.8*(1-0.2*2) = 120gc
Elite unit cost -
1500*0.8*(1-0.2*2) = 720gc

Since I have a bit less than 48 hours before I need to start training my military I didnt calculate my O&D numbers yet.
As usual I ordered to accelerate Towers, Guilds, Homes and Hospitals to start fast population growth earlier and cast L&P earlier.

	09-12-2001 03:56									#89
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Great

Keep us posted

We're still in war with one Kd, but we want it to stop, but the Monarch isn't replying
Well, guess I'll just wake him up...by destroying him

	09-12-2001 04:11									#90
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Early indications show that our operation was a stunning success.
Our thieves kidnapped many people, but only were able to return with 487.

Early indications show that our operation was a stunning success.
Our thieves kidnapped many people, but only were able to return with 468.

Early indications show that our operation was a stunning success.
Our thieves kidnapped many people, but only were able to return with 450.

Early indications show that our operation was a stunning success.
Our thieves kidnapped many people, but only were able to return with 433.

Early indications show that our operation was a stunning success.
Our thieves kidnapped many people, but only were able to return with 416.

We lost 41 thieves in the operation, but ... Early indications show that our operation was a stunning success.
Our thieves kidnapped many people, but only were able to return with 400.

Early indications show that our operation was a stunning success.
Our thieves kidnapped many people, but only were able to return with 385.

Early indications show that our operation was a stunning success.
Our thieves kidnapped many people, but only were able to return with 371.

Your wizards gather their runes and begin casting. The spell consumes 2767 Runes and ... is successful! A fireball burns through the skies of 10110101 (11:8). 892 people are killed in the destruction!

Your wizards gather their runes and begin casting. The spell consumes 2767 Runes and ... is successful! A fireball burns through the skies of 10110101 (11:8). 659 people are killed in the destruction!

Your wizards gather their runes and begin casting. The spell consumes 2767 Runes and ... is successful! A fireball burns through the skies of 10110101 (11:8). 696 people are killed in the destruction!

Your wizards gather their runes and begin casting. The spell consumes 2767 Runes and ... is successful! A fireball burns through the skies of 10110101 (11:8). 649 people are killed in the destruction!

Your wizards gather their runes and begin casting. The spell consumes 2767 Runes and ... is successful! A fireball burns through the skies of 10110101 (11:8). 672 people are killed in the destruction!

Your wizards gather their runes and begin casting. The spell consumes 2767 Runes and ... is successful! A fireball burns through the skies of 10110101 (11:8). 558 people are killed in the destruction!

Your wizards gather their runes and begin casting. The spell consumes 2767 Runes and ... is successful! A fireball burns through the skies of 10110101 (11:8). 462 people are killed in the destruction!