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If find the patience and tolerence people here have of yin26 (who seems to be more interested in justifing his purchasing decision, rather than any seriously discussion about the game) to be quite impressive.
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Yes, the CtP people proudly said the same thing. I saved $100 and COUNTLESS hours *NOT* seeing that game for myself, thank you very much (well, I got it [wrongly] as a gift and promptly erased it even then).
If the LE comes out here in Korea for $35 (I've heard that rumor), I won't be wasting too much money to try it out. Otherwise, I'm already seeing enough to pretty much make this a bargain bin purchase.
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You don't seem to be talking about the quality of the review here.
What I'm saying is
1. Every thread that you post more than 4 times deteriates into why you won't buy it unless you get it cheap/includes multiplayer.
2. Say that it isn't a good review, state your reasons, then move on. No amount of posting will change the review.
3. People here really do seem tolerant of you. You say negative things about the game (for apparently your own reasons) on a forum dedicated to the game.
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yin26
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This space reserved for Darkstar.
Apr 1999
time: 14:15
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Yin you've been hanging around those stereotypical korean gamers too long...last time I said that you called me racist |
It was a racist comment then, and it still is. First, what the hell makes you an expert on the 'stereotypical' Korean gamer? I live here for Christ's sake and haven't a clue what you are talking about. Get over that troll.
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Yin ignores all the data that says Civ will sell just fine as an SP and that says the best way to extract money from fans is to release MP later. |
Listen...don't put words in my mouth. "Sound financial models" and "long-term solid reputation" aren't always the same thing. Sure, Civ3 will sell great. But after all the jacking around with MP, scenarios and whatnot, you tell me what's the better solution. Of course, Infogrames doesn't have to publish another Firaxis game ever. Firaxis, however, will have to deal with a number of issues it short-changed people on in the PR department. THAT'S my angle. Please don't skew it.
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And I think he wants attention/acknowledgement from the designers...and given their reticence to give that...he becomes unhappy. |
That is so off it's insulting, though I don't think you particularly mean it to be. Familiar with the pop-psychological term 'Projection'? Perhaps YOU would want some kind of personal recognition (and how do you know I haven't already gotten it in e-mails, eh?). When I talk about recognition, I'm talking about recognition of THE FANS who stick things through and give great ideas. Again, please remember that.
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Would you be so willing to disregard this review had this person trashed Civ3 or are you only doing it so save face??? I thought you said you wanted the game to be a success but you don't seem to happy that it seems to be quite good? |
I do want the game to succeed. As I said in another thread, the burden of proof on the positive side is much much harder in my opinion: "Great gameplay!" Well, it will take a great deal of explaining and time with the game to make that convincing to me. "My archer shot down a cruise missile," however, is in one simple moment VERY condemning of the underlying programming.
Sorry if you disagree.
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yin26
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This space reserved for Darkstar.
Apr 1999
time: 14:15
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Offering some of your 'medicine' back to you |
Well, Imran, the last time you tried that line, a number of people spoke up about how YOU were the rude and illogical one. Show me where I psychoanalyze somebody just to put words in their mouths. I *ask* people what they are saying or at least hear their retorts and, if I am wrong about what they are saying, stop putting words in their mouths.
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Yin is way more into agitation than playing games and giving info about them. We saw this with CTP. He spent hours and hours talking about it...agitating, etc. Then after swearing up and down to play the game and to write a review...he didn't have time for THAT! |
That was true with CtP. I wanted to agitate back then because of the pattern in release horrid games and expecting the gamer to bend over. Now, that was nearly 3 years ago. Get new data. EVERYTHING I have *agitated* about Civ3 is done with genuine concern. I've more than proven my dedication to this game. Sorry if not rolling on the floor and dying when problems crop up makes you think I'm 'anti-Civ3' or other such nonsense.
If you are really concerned about what I think, then ask. Don't troll.
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I mean nothing is all bad or all good and I think your opinions would carry more weight with me is if there was something you liked about the game. |
Yes, this is a valid point. But I honestly don't have enought to say on the good side yet. The map won't even scroll properly ... about the only good things I've seen are:
- The AI seems to expand much better in the early game.
- The civ attributes could prove to be fun.
Perhpas there are others, but nothing has yet to grab me making me say: "YES! I will buy Civ3 for THAT!"
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