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Fintilgin is offline Fintilgin
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Apr 1999
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Well, everything was going well in my game of Civ3. Large world, 12 Civs, I was the Japanese. (I've got an 866 PIII, with Gforce3 and 128 meg `o ram) Round about 1450 A.D. I went to reload one of the autosaves from the recent past. The game cranked away, hesitated around 57% for a long time then said something about unable to load some sort of city file.

Another error message popped up saying something was wrong with the save game, and my game then loaded up. The world was fine, all my units and improvements were there, but EVERY CITY IN THE WORLD WAS MISSING! I'm not entirely certain why this didn't result in instant death for everyone who didn't have a settler on the map, but I didn't go to the next turn to see what happened.

I tried to load all my other auto-saves from that game, and they all had the same problem. I finally found one of my manual save games from the early 1300's that worked ok. It looked like that one wasn't corrupted. Everything went well until about 1700 when I needed to reload because I accidently gave the most powerfull civilization a tech I was hoarding to keep a wonder (misclicked). With a certain amount of worry I loaded an auto-save.

No cities.

I'd saved manually more frequently, but all of THOSE had the same irritating error. Now, obviously I'm a little leary of spending six hours on another game only to get half way though and have my game get corrupted. Has anyone else encountered this, or know what might be causing it?

Joe

(BTW: The game itself rules... (love that aggressive land-grabbing AI) I just want to be able to play it!

Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS is offline Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS
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Can you zip and post one or two of your autosaves? I can take a look at the problem and try to figure out what's going on. None of us have seen anything like this with any version of the game so I'm a bit puzzled....

Beau is offline Beau
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I have th exact same save problem Suffering from ads?

The game runs pretty well on my celeron 466 processor and my 64 mb of ram, the problem comes with when I try to load my saved games they immediatly stop at %57 complete. NOw that I know I'm not the only one this has to be a bug, and a very annoying one at that since you don't find out til hours of wasted gameplay.

Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS is offline Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS
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The game runs pretty well on my celeron 466 processor and my 64 mb of ram, the problem comes with when I try to load my saved games they immediatly stop at %57 complete. NOw that I know I'm not the only one this has to be a bug, and a very annoying one at that since you don't find out til hours of wasted gameplay.


Now this is a different problem.... At 57% the game is usually loading the units on the map. The unit loading is considered "1 item" for the progress bar so the bar does not update again until all the units have loaded. Try waiting a little longer and the bar should progress past 57%.

Fintilgin is offline Fintilgin
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I can send you those autosaves, but who should I e-mail them too? I don't have web-space to stick them on so I can't just post them...

Thanks a bunch,
Joe

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I can send you those autosaves, but who should I e-mail them too? I don't have web-space to stick them on so I can't just post them...

Thanks a bunch,
Joe


I meant to post them to the forums but if you can't or don't know how, send me a private message and I'll give you an email address.

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If I hit ctrl alt delete I cans ee the program running and after it hits 57% it says not responding.

Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS is offline Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS
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If I hit ctrl alt delete I cans ee the program running and after it hits 57% it says not responding.


While it is unit loading it is not going to be processing Windows messages which means that it will be "not responding".

Did you try waiting a little longer? Your machine is only slightly above the min. spec...

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The game runs pretty well on my celeron 466 processor and my 64 mb of ram, the problem comes with when I try to load my saved games they immediatly stop at %57 complete.

my laptop (pIII 850, 128meg ram) spends most of the load time at 57%. just be patient





Fintilgin, to post a zipped save game:
post a reply, but before submitting it click on the browse button to the right of "Attach file:" and select the zipped file.

Nemo is offline Nemo
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Apr 1999
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do you still want us to post corrupted files? i get the following error on the first attempt to reload a saved game:

DataIO operator system error: CITY


all subsiquent attempts to load this game gives me a civilization3 error box opens and says: "c:\directory\gameFolder\savedGameFolder\savedGame game file corrupted" (or something to that nature) and it loaded with no cities, just terrain and units. the first thing i did was hit F1 to go to my city screen, then Windows errored with "civ.exe error" (dr.watson log/msg)

my specs:
PII 450
512Mb RAM
Win2k SP2 (as admin)
GeForce 2 GTS
DirectX 8.0a
SB Live!

if you are interested, let me know, i will post the files. i emailed infograms on wednesday about this, but they never responded.

EDIT: 8 civs; large map; orinigal civilization3.ini file

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jones is offline jones
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I'm getting the same DataIO CIV error as Nemo. This is the first time its happened to me, and this is my first game with more than 8 AI civs.

I have saves if you need them.

edit: oops, that error is DataIO CITY not CIV

Fintilgin is offline Fintilgin
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Yeah, the dataIO error is what I get too.

A note. If you try to load the game from the main menu, it gives you the error messages and dosn't load. You only get the vanishing cities if you load the game from the MAP.

Here are a couple of my games. Behold Prince Ashitaka of Japan and his Empire of Invisible Cities!

Joe

Attachment: japan.zip
This has been downloaded 8 time(s).

Grunthex is offline Grunthex
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Oct 2001
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I get the same DataIO: CITY error, but mine doesn't even go to the game, just dumps me back to the menu. Savegame attached here. Note, all my autosaves from this game are the same.

This seems to be happening to people in the middle-late to late stages on larger maps, maybe just too much information?

Attachment: corruptsave.zip
This has been downloaded 4 time(s).

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LOL .. this thread is turning into a little "who has actually played the game for some time" list.

Gruthex, Fintilgin, did you both have more than 8 civs in the game?

Grunthex is offline Grunthex
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I did, 12 civs/large map. I think 9 were still alive (the Aztecs made a lot of sacrifices to their dirty little gods)

Fintilgin is offline Fintilgin
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Yes, I think I did too. 14 or so? I don't remember off the top of my head, it might have only been 10 or 12...

More then 8 in any case.

Joe

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I'm getting the same error. I'm playing on a huge map with 16 civs (although not all of them are still there )

It seems to happen between 1465 and 1470. It's alright if I go back to 1465 but any save game after that doesn't work I can send the save game if you wish....

Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS is offline Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS
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OK, I will take a look at the attached saved games and try to figure out what's going on with them. There's no need to attach any more saves to this thread; these two should be enough for me to figure it out. Thanks.

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For Mike

Here is the saved game before it currupts...

Attachment: elizabeth of the english, 1465 ad.zip
This has been downloaded 4 time(s).

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Here is the saved game that is corrupted...

Attachment: elizabeth of the english, 1470 ad.zip
This has been downloaded 9 time(s).

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OK, I will take a look at the attached saved games and try to figure out what's going on with them. There's no need to attach any more saves to this thread; these two should be enough for me to figure it out. Thanks.


Oops! Cross posted...

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Just a brief note.

I went back a few turns to 1450 (from 1465) and played on from there and up to now it is working. The thing that I noticed happen in the original 1465 was that the Zulu's killed off the Japanese. On the assumption that this caused the bug I made friends with the Japanese and the Zulu's trying to keep them from fighting and I'm now up to 1480 and the saved game is still working. I will check it again when the Japanese get killed to see if the bug starts again.

I was wondering, as I haven't checked it out yet, since the error comes when the game is loading the city bit if Japan and the Zulu's have a different type of city i.e. from a different age and the graphics are messing it up? I will have a look when after I get some sleep!

Grunthex is offline Grunthex
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Well, if you're gonna post after Mike says not to, that's the way to do it. Great observation on the Civ eradication, I'm gonna watch in my current (Non-corrupt, but only standard map size) game to see if eliminations cause problems... if nothing else, it gives me a good time to make a backup save, just before it happens.

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Well, if you're gonna post after Mike says not to, that's the way to do it. Great observation on the Civ eradication, I'm gonna watch in my current (Non-corrupt, but only standard map size) game to see if eliminations cause problems... if nothing else, it gives me a good time to make a backup save, just before it happens.


In my defence I had PM'ed Mike and he asked me to post here and then I guess he saw the two already there and changed his mind!

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Man, I'm glad I'm not the only one. Stuck in the 1600's, standard map, 7 civs. If you are correct, the recent demise of the Indians corrupted all of my saves... I haven't even checked yet to see how far back I have to go. I was doing so well too...

Ok, I just went back and confirmed something I thought I noticed but wasn't sure of. According to the histograph, the indians haven't had any cities since 1000AD. It is now 1465. Does city elimination not kill a civ? i thought it did... If it does, ghandi must be in some sort of undead frenzy.

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Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS is offline Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS
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OK, it looks like we've found the problem causing the saved game error and it's been fixed.

If you still have the autosave from the turn before the problem appears, make a copy of that saved game. You will be able to continue playing from that turn without any problems once a fix is made available.

SITS: Thanks, especially, for the saved game before the error occurred as this was most helpful in tracking it down.

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OK, it looks like we've found the problem causing the saved game error and it's been fixed.

If you still have the autosave from the turn before the problem appears, make a copy of that saved game. You will be able to continue playing from that turn without any problems once a fix is made available.

SITS: Thanks, especially, for the saved game before the error occurred as this was most helpful in tracking it down.


Cheers, Mike. Can you tell us what the problem is?

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I have had the same problem on my Pentium III 733 128mg ram. Good to see that the problem will be fixed in the patch. Damn though-- it would have been great to finish that game.

"It is better to listen to the rebuke of wisemen than the praise of fools"

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I realise that the forums have been down but it would be great if Mike can say what was wrong....

 
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