07-11-2001 01:46									#91
	BTC Day on Friday (GMT) Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

The BTC Day is getting closer...

The activity day will be on Friday (GMT).
The more detailed schedule and program guide
will be published on Thursday (GMT).

BTC Day volunteers are needed!
I would need some help with the planning
of the events and also with preparation.
So just let me know by PM, e-mail or
reply to this thread.

But until further I can tell you that the
BTC Day is an activity day with some goals
that should be achieved.

	07-11-2001 16:44									#92
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

My order was cancelled today - eventhough it had already shipped?????????????

This was the main part of the mail:

Unfortunately, pending clarification of federal regulations now in
place regarding the shipment of computer software products outside
the U.S., we have temporarily discontinued shipping software titles
overseas.

I can't live with this!!!




Please give me my LE

	07-11-2001 19:39									#93
	Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by faded glory ..I hope it never ships over seas to whatever 3rd world nation you live in) usa ! USA!! USA !!!

...and we all love the U.S. so much more now.
..or maybe not!

Rasbelin: I'ts an exceptional initiative!
And even though civ3 LE is not a basic human right I fully support it, as I would've definitely bought the BT myself.
I also agree that Infogrames' good name and reputation will (and I hope )be damaged, due to this incomprehensible limitation. Infogrames treats the world outside USA as second-class citizens, first by releasing it weeks later, then by banning LE.

To reach all of those who agree with you but don't have the motivation to write a full letter to Infogrames themselves: wouldn't it be an option to make some kind of a 'standard letter' which one could just cut&paste?


Good luck on the campaign for LE-justice!

	08-11-2001 05:59									#94
	Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by Fiil My order was cancelled today - eventhough it had already shipped????????????? This was the main part of the mail: Unfortunately, pending clarification of federal regulations now in place regarding the shipment of computer software products outside the U.S., we have temporarily discontinued shipping software titles overseas. I can't live with this!!! Please give me my LE

Amazon sent me the same email even though I already have it!

	08-11-2001 12:20									#95
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Fiil Unfortunately, pending clarification of federal regulations now in place regarding the shipment of computer software products outside the U.S., we have temporarily discontinued shipping software titles overseas.

Well you know what would happen if bin laden or saddam got a hold of Civ3. They'd take over the world.

Typical bureaucratic stupidity.

	08-11-2001 12:29									#96
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by Fiil My order was cancelled today - eventhough it had already shipped?????????????

They did the same to me, even if I had pre-ordered it and
paid it with a SWIFT cheque. When I asked for compensation
for time and banking charges, they just ignored my e-mail.
But wait for BTC Day. Then they will get something else to think
on...

Down with Amazon.com! We want the Civ III LE!

	08-11-2001 12:37									#97
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by HatchetMan Rasbelin: I'ts an exceptional initiative!

At least I suppose I have been quite devoted to
this campaign.

quote: And even though civ3 LE is not a basic human right

Heh! True, but the point was more like that others than
only US customers should be allowed to have their LEs.

quote: I fully support it, as I would've definitely bought the BT myself. I also agree that Infogrames' good name and reputation will (and I hope )be damaged, due to this incomprehensible limitation. Infogrames treats the world outside USA as second-class citizens, first by releasing it weeks later, then by banning LE.

Good to see others that also share the common BTC opinion.

quote: To reach all of those who agree with you but don't have the motivation to write a full letter to Infogrames themselves: wouldn't it be an option to make some kind of a 'standard letter' which one could just cut&paste?

Oh my goodness! That was a brilliant idea.
I'll write one later today for the BTC website.
Thanks for the proposal!

quote: Good luck on the campaign for LE-justice!

Thanks! That will be needed.

	08-11-2001 12:41									#98
	Full PM-box? Change here!

quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Well you know what would happen if bin laden or saddam got a hold of Civ3. They'd take over the world.

Actually Tingkai has understood the problem.
But I'll reveal the whole story on the BTC's website
later today, because I don't have enough time now.

	08-11-2001 12:44									#99
	Coming up later today... Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

- BTC newsroom update.
- Ready made messages.
- BTC Day program.

See you later!

	08-11-2001 14:55									#100
	Increase the size of your Attachments

You're a funny little man, Rasbelin.

I have no use for the biscuit box (or a tin of anjovis), but I'll support your cause for just this one time.

So long, and thanks for all the fish...

	08-11-2001 21:44									#101
	Put an end to popups!

The BTC website has now finally been updated!

The BTC investigation's report is the hotest
thing added to the site, so I suppose it might
interest you.

The latest headlines @ BTC newsroom

BTC investigation report
BTC Day - day of action on Friday
Library update - Cancellation of Rasbelin's order


BTW, don't forget...

	08-11-2001 21:57									#102
	Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by aaglo You're a funny little man, Rasbelin.

Pardon, but is this a compliment?

	08-11-2001 22:39									#103
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by faded glory Sorry Euro's Most of the money to be made by IG will be made in the good ole US of A!! If you dont like it TS You will have to order it from our people Oh yes! There are way more fanatic civers in America. Not 7-10 years kids who just buy it cause the cover looks cool (Oh yes just for that derogatory comment I hope it never ships over seas to whatever 3rd world nation you live in) usa ! USA!! USA !!!

Actually i ordered it from "your people" in 31 October. It's called the Deviance Unlimited Edition and it seems at least for me it was a free hard civers edition.

Now i will just wait calmly and buy the L.E. IF it comes to my country. You see i am not gonna spend a week average salary of my country just because of delivery and tax at custumer service. That if it would anyway be sold threw mail to my country.

IF it doesn't come i will have to get a way to send at least half the price of the regular edition to Firaxis.

About that stuff talking of 3rd world country : If i live in a 3rd world country than you live in a 4rd world country. You have middle age stuff like death penalty, spend at least two times more % of national defense in army althought GNP per capita is at least 3 times more, we are poor but give free unlimited healph care to everyone and so on. And you see my country is not any state of art in politics and society.

But anyway you must be a kid to come saying what you said.

FOOT NOTE- Don't wanna offende anyone but this pissed me off. I like american people, i have many american friends,i have already been to america, i have friends that work in america before i was born. Althought i don't like many things in america or of america as a whole. And also some that i love: FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY... but that´s not everything.

	09-11-2001 18:13									#104
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I would cancel my Amazon order, but I didn't order LE and I was informed that they had already sent Civ III for me. If I would return it, I had to pay for shipping costs.

First and last time that I order from Amazon.com, although they didn't hurt ME at all...

Actually it hasn't got much to do with your problems, just because it COSTS MORE!!!

	09-11-2001 19:19									#105
	Tired of ads?

Jusbaummer, if you have already been sent the
game, then my simple advice is that just keep the game.
Don't return.

BTW, it's now cheaper to fetch Civ III at a local
store in Finland (chepest prices: 232 FIM and 255 FIM).

	09-11-2001 19:35									#106
	It's now BTC Day! Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Be active! Discuss! Send e-mail!

Surf to the BTC's website for the latest
news and BTC Day information.

BTW, I have already sent 2 inquiries today.

	09-11-2001 20:35									#107
	Got spare money?

My latest e-mail to Infogrames (actually fourth today):

Hi!

I'm writing to you on the behalf of the Biscuit Tin Coalition,
that wants a worldwide release of Civ III LE.
We don't see the current treatment of non US customers
as fair, because many devoted Civilization series fans
has now been left without their long waited Civ III LE.
And without any good reason! There's currently no BXA
restrictions on releasing a PC game in Europe or inside
the EU zone. Is this just idiotic fumbling of Infogrames?
As a Nasdaq listed company, you should know that every
single dollar that can be earned in these tough times
is important, but apparently you're company is so stupid
that it doesn't see its own best. How can your investors be
pleased with you? Huh!

I demand that Infogrames would release the Civ III LE worldwide,
and not just in the US. Perhaps not under the name Civ III
Limited Edition, but as Civ III Collector's Edition, but that's
also good enough for the BTC and all the other "civers"
that are keen on getting an opportunity to buy the special
edition. I hope that you could at least think on my suggestion and
for God's sake finally respond to our inquiries. I warn you
that we will not stop the flood of e-mail until the LE is
available to all of us, or at least a worldwide LE release
date has been announced.

Your reply is expected and demanded!
Only cowards don't dare to face their customers!

Regards,
Rasmus Anderssén, Finland,
campaign manager of the BTC

	09-11-2001 20:57									#108
	Suffering from ads?

The latest news @ BTC News

New clues found in BTC investigation
BTC Day discussion launched!

Surf to http://www.biscuit-tin-coalition.cjb.net for
more on these stories and the current BTC Day!

Last edited by Rasbelin on 10-11-2001 at 02:31

	09-11-2001 21:06									#109
	Increase Your PM Length

Has anyone else done anything today?
Am I the only active BTC activist or supporter?

BTW, I received 30 mins ago a message from Amazon.com.
Total bulls_hit! They alomst assumed in the message
that the returning of my SWIFT cheque would be "compensation"!
Looks like you'll have to ask for compensation, if you
want to have your own money back. But that doesn't still
solve the real compensation dilemma.

	10-11-2001 02:26									#110
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

The current official re-direction URLs are...

http://www.biscuit-tin-coalition.cjb.net
http://www.the-btc.cjb.net
http://we-want-civ3.cjb.net

The latest LE and BTC news can be found
in a new BTC News section. Some other
changes have also been made. The most
important is the correction of wrongly spelled
Bisquit Tin Coalition and Biscuit Tin Coalition.

Surf to BTC's website for the latest updates and news!

Please remember to change any links that point
to non working old URLs. Thanks!

	10-11-2001 11:41									#111
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I'm in the campaign. Granted, it's cheaper to me to go to the nearest shop and just buy the unlimited edition, and I'd probably never have ordered LE from abroad anyway, but it's the principle.

Say, what happened to those BTC banners? I link to one, and the next day I just have a red X where the banner used to be.

	10-11-2001 12:15									#112
	Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin BTW, it's now cheaper to fetch Civ III at a local store in Finland (chepest prices: 232 FIM and 255 FIM).

I know. That's exactly why I won't order anything from internet any more. Second reason: I would probably have got it even before if I bought it at a shop. So why would I use internet for shopping? One time too much...

	10-11-2001 14:07									#113
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

The biscuit tin Civ3 LE is being sold outside the US. I just bought it in Hong Kong. Paid US$40. Luckily I cancelled my order through Chips and Bits. Buying it from them would have cost me about US$65.

So if you live outside the US, don't dispair. The biscuit tin edition could be coming to your local store.

	10-11-2001 14:48									#114
	Full PM-box? Change here!

quote: Originally posted by Xuenay I'm in the campaign. Granted, it's cheaper to me to go to the nearest shop and just buy the unlimited edition, and I'd probably never have ordered LE from abroad anyway, but it's the principle.

Thanks for your support!

Remeber the BTC Day 2 tomorrow. A day of action and rally.
Check out BTC News at BTC's website.

quote: Say, what happened to those BTC banners? I link to one, and the next day I just have a red X where the banner used to be.

There's a notification on the Promote BTC page and
at BTC News on that. I had to remove them temporarily,
because they include an URL that doesn't excist anymore.

I suppose I'll try to make new ones JIT for BTC Day 2.
I appologise this inconvinience.

	10-11-2001 15:04									#115
	Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by Tingkai So if you live outside the US, don't dispair. The biscuit tin edition could be coming to your local store.

Let's hope that's true.

	10-11-2001 22:42									#116
	BTC Day 2 Get a bigger avatar today!

Sunday is BTC Day 2!

Remember the activity day tomorrow on Sunday.
It's a second attempt to have a joint action
for Civ III LE. I really hope that you would
take part in BTC Day 2, and not just be lazy.

For more details, go to the BTC's website!

Last edited by Rasbelin on 10-11-2001 at 22:55

	11-11-2001 00:59									#117
	Remove this text

The current headlines @ BTC News

New BTC banners and signatures
BTC Day 2 on Sunday
Summary on BTC Day
BTC's website under reconstruction
New clues found in BTC investigation
BTC investigation report

Last edited by Rasbelin on 11-11-2001 at 01:06

	11-11-2001 13:54									#118
	Today is BTC Day 2! Enter the AD-FREE zone

It's now BTC Day 2, the day of joint action!

Please take part in the task for persuading
Infogrames to release Civ III LE worldwide.
For more detailed information, surf to ol' good
BTC website @ http://we-want-civ3.cjb.net or
any of the other official re-direction URLs.

Rasbelin

	11-11-2001 23:55									#119
	Got spare money?

E-mailed Infogrames about this. Aside from that and promoting BTC, is there anything else I can do on this action day?

	11-11-2001 23:56									#120
	BTC Day 2 has been called off! Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Just leting you know that I have called of
the BTC Day 2, because nobody seems to
care about it. Expect Xueanay.

Latest BTC update

BTC News has been updated!
BTC investigation report gets its own page!
avm.htm has been removed!