08-04-2002 18:39									#601
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos I'm not remaking the game you know, so all I do has to be at least partly supported by the game. This puts the limits, as well as my time

sure you are , ...............

at least i can say that more and more people in the civ 3 world , watch here it comes , .......feel that your input is great , not at least the placement tool , .................

so , ya see , and that is only one example , just dont stop now , please , ........

time , hmmmm , ............. at least you know how to use thay time good , i wonder what some people were doing the last year , ......

did i hear someone whiseling in the background , .......????


have a great one , day that is

	08-04-2002 18:49									#602
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Gramhos , by the way , SID is in Sweden on the 9th , maybe talk to him , ..?????

oh yeah maybe we as gamers get a break , with Steve Martin from Microprose , now tehy just need a guy from Westwood and that should , huh could do the trick .


allas have a great day .


huh , Gramphos , what about a real good , simple manual on the placement tool ?
in pdf , hmmm , ......

	08-04-2002 19:00									#603
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I forgot that the tool changes the pcx files as well... (buildings_small and buildings_large) when copying buildings.

	08-04-2002 19:05									#604
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Yes, Sid is in Sweden, but it would be almost impossible for me to get to Stockholm in the mid of the week. If I hadn't been away, I maybe could have planned something, but as it stads now I'll probably just stay home. (Traintickets are expencive, and I can't get to Stockholm before 5 PM unless I skip School, and I'm not the one who skip school. If I haden't been away, I maybe could thrown away about 900 SEK for tickets and a signed game (Dark edition, or whatever it was), but as I already have the game, and my time is limited I think I just shall stay home.)

	08-04-2002 19:40									#605
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hi ,


i understand , huh , by the way , why is he flying around , pffff , he better uses his time , huh , why , well , for the patch .


G , what about cruisemissile on nuclear sub ?

hmmm , marla's map , units , the PCX 32 file , i tried to fix it , no good now , i did it on the laptop , but that comp is away now , on holiday , lol , could you find the patience to say it again , or better , you got a fix or huh , have a screen example , pic , ?

allas , have a nice day , and you are right , dont skip school if its not worth it

	08-04-2002 19:49									#606
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I'll see if I can get that pic for you. It shouldn't be too hard, all I need is ten minutes, at max, but I use my time for other things right now, and have to catch up on missing things.

On the Sid thing... is he travelling alone, or does he have anyone with him?

	08-04-2002 20:25									#607
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos I'll see if I can get that pic for you. It shouldn't be too hard, all I need is ten minutes, at max, but I use my time for other things right now, and have to catch up on missing things. On the Sid thing... is he travelling alone, or does he have anyone with him?

ahem , huh , thanks , hey no need to hurry , huh , as long as you dont go Firaxis on me , everything is okay , hum , hum

well , i believe he is , what , planning a napkid , hmmm , huh , Sweden is neutral hé , yeah right !

someone who went to his show in Paris told me that he is avoiding Q's on the performance and answer's like where is the next patch , etc , ......................

so , what ya in school for , AI or game programing ? , allas at least someone who knows what he is doing , hey , i dont want to make your ego big or so , its just , well facts .

have a nice one , huh , day that is

	09-04-2002 04:00									#608
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Great work you did!
Have only one problem:
How to delete things I added?
I added 3 insteed of 2 techs to my bic... how can I remove the one?

And do you think there could be an easier way to fill in all the Civilopedia, unitsdescription things?

	09-04-2002 11:52									#609
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To remove one thing you can use the normal editor, as for now at least. (I might add delete to C3MT later...)

In civ3edit: Select the tech you want to delete, and press Alt+d.

What easier way?

	09-04-2002 18:39									#610
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quote: [SIZE=1] On the Sid thing... is he travelling alone, or does he have anyone with him?

He's with a harem of cybersluts.

	09-04-2002 20:46									#611
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Try to stay to C3MT discussion in this thread. You can discuss Sid in General (if Civ3 related).

	09-04-2002 21:03									#612
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos Try to stay to C3MT discussion in this thread. You can discuss Sid in General (if Civ3 related).

Excellent. I got your attention (the cyberslut thing was a joke). I posted a question earlier in the thread. All I really want to do is copy units and perhaps be able to edit scenarios. Which files do I need to download?

Order of importance in what I would like to do:
1. copy/create units - most important
2. edit scenarios
3. copy/create new civs

ps not to kiss your butt, but impressive job. keep up the good work

	09-04-2002 21:35									#613
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Can you tell more exactly what you want to do. Is it a question of editing BICs, or SAVs?

	09-04-2002 22:36									#614
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos Can you tell more exactly what you want to do. Is it a question of editing BICs, or SAVs?

First of all, I'm an idiot, (just look at my avatar) so bear w/ me. I have a mod I play with, but would love to add new units. so I guess the most important thing is the .bics. Does your editor allow placement of civs, improvements, etc.? If so also interested. I think I'll leave off the extra civs thing til later. Just point me in the right direction for the units for now. I know you're busy, and korn offered to help, so I'll bug him for the details. Thanks.

	09-04-2002 23:01									#615
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For the units all you have to do is to load the BIC in the copy tool, select a unit to base the new unit on, mark Rename unit, enter the nmae of the new unit, enter 1 as the number to ad, and then click copy. Then you have to edit it with civ3edit.

	09-04-2002 23:13									#616
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Thanks. Last question. Where/which is the latest copy tool on this thread? Anything I need to know about installation/bugs/issues etc.?

	09-04-2002 23:26									#617
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The latest tool is linked to from the first post in the thread. It is v0.90 IIRC

If you have problem with the tool there is a full setup for that version at Civfanatics.

	10-04-2002 00:15									#618
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I'm sorry but I've never been able to get this, but why not just add units with the Civ3 Hacked Editor???

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k, i got a big problem...well, big but not so evil problem from using the multi-tool... i wanna know if there is any way i can angle around in my editor to fix it

i added 16 units with the multi-tool.. however, now, aside from the units a civ starts with, no matter what tech advances a civ makes... it can never get anything but the first units it begins with... and even then, it doesnt.

Oh, btw, i was editing Martha's World map.bic

So, England starts with Settler, Worker, Warior, Scout, and the Pirogue... i think thats all England should start with. so I try a game with England, and they don't get the pirogue right away... i get bronze-working, and the spear-man isnt added to my build list...

so basically... i THINK from adding 16(17 if you count Martha's Pirogue) units, i screwed up something on how units are added to the "build options" list.

Any ideas on how this could be fixed? or have i gone over some kind of unit barrier?

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hi, i have a slight problem...i started a game with marla singers world map and immediatley saved in civ. I loaded that saved game into the savegame editor thinking i could place units on the map..specifically settlers where cities geographically should be...thats what you can do with this tool can't you? Well it kinda worked but all my settlers are invisible! And the cities i build too! I strongly suspect it has something to do with the buildings_small.pcx...is that right? I haven't been able to download the corrected .pcx file...every time i download it and try to open it with winzip it just brings up an error message....can you tell me if it is the .pcx file or what am i doing wrong?
thanks,
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edith i forgot...when i save the map in the editor it also adds everytime an (invisible) settler at 0,0...i only pushed the add button once!
Of course it would be awesome if i wouldn't have to go by adding settlers to build cities then start the game build the cities and then go back and edit the cities, but just add the cities in the editor in the first place...

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	10-04-2002 19:39									#621
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You use the latest version (0.90)?

	10-04-2002 21:19									#622
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I was using 8.7, or 8.3 originally, to add my units (i hope you were talking to me...)

what could it be? i only added 16 units, 17 if you count the martha's Pirogue.

	10-04-2002 22:49									#623
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I've run into the unit at 0,0 also. I found that if you manual change the location, then select a defferant unit before you save it, it fixes that. As far as the invisiable stuff, have you tried resetting the feild of view once you have finished placing all your units?

My problem as been that if I add settlers, then use them to build cities, I eventually get a DATAIO: UNITS error when I try and load the game.

	11-04-2002 00:09									#624
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Actually that was a question for both of you. That problem with barbarian settlers at (0,0) should have been fixed with 0.90.

	11-04-2002 04:35									#625
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so would i have to remove all my 8.3 units, and replace them all over again with 9.0?

and if so, does that mean completely re-doing the bic i edited? im not sure ive seen a "remove" option in the C3MT

(EDIT) Oh... just checking, are you sure this is what my problem is? i can build new buildings as i get the techs for them... but i can't build new units, or any naval units. and would you mind giving a brief description of this barbarian settler, or emailing me at dninot@yahoo.ca? thx for all help (EDIT)

	11-04-2002 10:30									#626
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yeah i'm using 0.90...i also tried resetting the fog of war...

	11-04-2002 18:51									#627
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No, that shouldn't be needed. I have a big test tomorrow, and has to hand in some things as well. Will not have time to look at anything not related to school before the end of the weekend.

	12-04-2002 05:55									#628
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(SEVERE EDIT) this post became useless before anyone could answer... i have everything solved

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	13-04-2002 04:21									#629
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Hey Gramphos -
Love the tool. I wanted to let you know about two problems I've encountered with it. I've been editing and using Norm's Huge Europe Map (256x256) with Civ 3 1.17f. The scenarios start up fine, but random starting locations is annoying so I used the C3MT (0.90) to fix the starts. It moves everyone just fine but has the side effect of wreaking the technology rate . Before I edit it, the first tech always takes the Max setting, as usual, (40 turns in my case), but after C3MT all techs for the rest of the game always take the minimum (4, 8, 12 turns, whatever I have set). I haven't had these problems with extensive editing of Marlas Maps and others. Issue number 2: if I try to add units using C3MT, the saved game pukes and dies at ~37% on the reload. That's bad. If you have any ideas lemme hear 'em. thanks.

	13-04-2002 04:43									#630
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Is the problem with CPT as well?