23-11-2001 22:36									#151
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This really starts to get interesting. The SaveGames seem to support 32 civs in a game.

I'll soon know enough about them to rewrite my SAV-load function. Somethings are still needed, but I'm close to be able to add/remove units.

	23-11-2001 22:56									#152
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got a crash, able to reproduce (I saved the game just in that turn), 16 factions, huge map, at around 1250 AC (Win95)

CIVILIZATION3 verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul CIVILIZATION3.EXE bei 016f:0051ec9e.
Register:
EAX=00000000 CS=016f EIP=0051ec9e EFLGS=00010212
EBX=000000da SS=0177 ESP=00aafca8 EBP=ffffffff
ECX=00000006 DS=0177 ESI=03d65400 FS=34e7
EDX=00000000 ES=0177 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
8b 17 6a 01 8b cf ff 52 54 8b c7 5f 5e 5d c2 08
Stapelwerte:
00000000 03d65400 000000d4 0044b64a 005d065c ffffffff ffffffff 03d65400 ffffffff 00000000 000000da 0000000a 0000000a ffffffff 000f4246 000000d4

	23-11-2001 23:15									#153
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quote: Originally posted by Grim Leaper Is it just the normal vb runtime file? I also tride looking for service pack for 5.0, but to no avail. Microsodt only have sp's for vb6.

the vbrun versions I found in internet:
vb3run.exe
vb4run.exe
msvbvm50.exe
vbrun60.exe (1031 kb)
Vbrun600.exe (2101 kb)

	24-11-2001 01:33									#154
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quote: Originally posted by Dreifels got a crash, able to reproduce (I saved the game just in that turn), 16 factions, huge map, at around 1250 AC (Win95)

As you posted this in this thread I think that you have edit the rules of the game. Am I right?
In that case did you add a civ and entered the foreign advisor, or did you do something else?

	24-11-2001 01:36									#155
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The savegame read and write routines has been reworked to work better and with later savegames as well.

edited out after 66 downloads

Last edited by Gramphos on 25-11-2001 at 03:11

	24-11-2001 02:10									#156
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quote: the vbrun versions I found in internet: vb3run.exe vb4run.exe msvbvm50.exe vbrun60.exe (1031 kb) Vbrun600.exe (2101 kb)

Cheers, but i've got it working now. Gramphos posted a couple of links to the updated files i needed.

Still haven't had a full-on delve into your program, but it looks very useful, from what i've seen already. good work.

	24-11-2001 06:32									#157
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Gramphos, I have just now downloaded your latest version and for reason it is not working for me. I may be doing something wrong, though, I don't know. I unzipped the file and placed it in the directory of /Civivilization3/. When I try to run the program I get an error of -- Component.'COMDLG32.OCX' not currently registered: file is missing or invalid --. Most likely I am doing something incorrect and it is not your program. Regardless of where the problem is coming from could you help me? Thanks.

	24-11-2001 12:43									#158
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quote: Originally posted by TechWins Gramphos, I have just now downloaded your latest version and for reason it is not working for me. I may be doing something wrong, though, I don't know. I unzipped the file and placed it in the directory of /Civivilization3/. When I try to run the program I get an error of -- Component.'COMDLG32.OCX' not currently registered: file is missing or invalid --. Most likely I am doing something incorrect and it is not your program. Regardless of where the problem is coming from could you help me? Thanks.

It is a missing runtime file (that is used by the savegame editor and the loading screen)

Extract the two files from this cab and right click on the inf and select install (I can't include the file with the tool as it would take extra space for all that already have it)
http://activex.microsoft.com/controls/vb5/COMCTL32.CAB

	24-11-2001 12:44									#159
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I add 1 unit and 1 palace for the germans to test how it works.
made no changes at the rules so far I remember

	24-11-2001 12:57									#160
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quote: Originally posted by Dreifels I add 1 unit and 1 palace for the germans to test how it works. made no changes at the rules so far I remember

Now I'm really confused . My tool don't allow add of stuff in savegames, and AFAIK improvements can't be civ-specific.

	24-11-2001 14:33									#161
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As people have hard to find the SaveGame editor I attach this screen.

(The image is cropped in width (in the middle))

Attachment: copytool.gif
This has been downloaded 317 time(s).

	24-11-2001 20:22									#162
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos Now I'm really confused . My tool don't allow add of stuff in savegames, and AFAIK improvements can't be civ-specific.

If you're confuse, we are already two ;-)
As I can NOT open sav files with your tool, but bic files only!!!!!
And there I clicked "palace", with the result, that inthe game that I started after with that bic I had 2* a palace in buldings selection, one * the normal with icon, the other without icon and the 2nd was also shown as possible to build for the main city which had already a palace.

	24-11-2001 20:29									#163
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos As people have hard to find the SaveGame editor I attach this screen. (The image is cropped in width (in the middle))

Upps, now you're making me confuse again!
You say "SaveGame editor" but show a picture of Civ3CopyTool

If I extract the zip of the C3CT, I get an exe "Civ3CopyTool.exe" tho that I refer above.
If I extract the civ3-sge-v1-01.zip, I get a file "Save Game Editor.exe" and this windows doesn't accept as executable windows file but shows it as dos file and I can't run it.

And your C3CT doesn't show the pullodwn left above and no units selections having races names behind.

What is now what????
If both files work together, how they have to call?? Maybe I'm stupid and didn't understand how tu use right.

Seems you have an other versionthan I have. Here both are separate programs, inyour screenshot above both features are integreted together.
But where to download it? -
ok, found it (you should name your different versions as such)

BUT now I get a runtime error

Civ3ResCopy

! Runtimeerror "7":
not enough memory




althought I've 128 *free* (256 total)

	24-11-2001 21:45									#164
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quote: Originally posted by Dreifels If you're confuse, we are already two ;-) As I can NOT open sav files with your tool, but bic files only!!!!! And there I clicked "palace", with the result, that inthe game that I started after with that bic I had 2* a palace in buldings selection, one * the normal with icon, the other without icon and the 2nd was also shown as possible to build for the main city which had already a palace.

Downloade the latest version (0.71) of the CopyTool. It copies the icon for buildings as well. You must have a version before 0.65.

	24-11-2001 21:56									#165
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quote: Originally posted by Dreifels Upps, now you're making me confuse again! You say "SaveGame editor" but show a picture of Civ3CopyTool

It is MY SaveGame Editor. I stared to work on decodeing SaveGames a while ago, and I didn't want to stop because of another SaveGameEditor got ready before mine. The reason why it is in the CopyTool is that it must read the rulefiles to be able to know all unitnames and other rules and I already had those functions in C3CT.

quote: If I extract the zip of the C3CT, I get an exe "Civ3CopyTool.exe" tho that I refer above. If I extract the civ3-sge-v1-01.zip, I get a file "Save Game Editor.exe" and this windows doesn't accept as executable windows file but shows it as dos file and I can't run it. And your C3CT doesn't show the pullodwn left above and no units selections having races names behind.

To me it sounds as you are using another then the latest version of C3CT. Right Click on the EXE and select Properties and check the fileversion (Should be 0.71.something).

quote: What is now what???? If both files work together, how they have to call?? Maybe I'm stupid and didn't understand how tu use right.

Currently they don't work together. Jimmies file is a separate tool. Anyway I plan to allow other tools to start from the menus in the C3CT in later versions, but as long as I don't make DLLs they can't communicate. So they would go us unintegrated tools.

quote: Seems you have an other versionthan I have. Here both are separate programs, inyour screenshot above both features are integreted together. But where to download it? - ok, found it (you should name your different versions as such) BUT now I get a runtime error Civ3ResCopy ! Runtimeerror "7": not enough memory althought I've 128 *free* (256 total)

Ah, you found it. (to lazy to remove everything about it). Try to reboot the computer. I have only 128 MB total, and the tool runs smooth.

	24-11-2001 22:07									#166
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Dreifels,
if you still have problem with the memory, you can try this version (just a later build no (big) changes)

The only difference you should notice is that you can run the exe with "/sge" as a parameter to not load everything needed for the CopyTool, but start the SaveGameEditor included directly.

And I renamed the ZIP just for you.

edited out after 7 downloads

Last edited by Gramphos on 25-11-2001 at 03:10

	25-11-2001 03:09									#167
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I've now finished a filter system that will make it easier to find the unit you want to edit. You can select to view all Japanese Workers owned by the Zululand if you want to.

out after 37 downloads.

Last edited by Gramphos on 26-11-2001 at 02:26

	25-11-2001 09:47									#168
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos What you need is the vb-runtime. They are 4 zipped files in the attachment limit, and I don't like to post them again. I've posted them at civfanatics. You can get them there. If more people experience this I might make a vbruntime setup and mail to Markos, but I'm not posting them here.

I have the same problem. Yes, I downloaded the vbruntime. It didn't help.

	25-11-2001 10:01									#169
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I installed the vb runtime, then scoured the internet for comdlg32.ocx. I'm using civ3copytool 72 in win2k. It doesn't work. It used to say "missing comdlg32.ocx". I installed it. Now it just says "unexpected error".

What is going on? I'm a vb programmer myself, and I can't imagine what could possibly go wrong with such a small program that it won't even load. Especially since so many people have no trouble with it.

Could you just give me the source code?

Last edited by Kenjura on 25-11-2001 at 11:57

	25-11-2001 17:25									#170
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Oh, lordy. Those VB OCXs. More often than not, it's a version conflict with the control. Check out this link. Hope it helps.

	26-11-2001 02:20									#171
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Small noticeable changes, larger changes in the code.
The difficulty level can now be changed in a game. (Is that game you are playing to easy? Increase the level in mid-time)


For all that have problem with Unexpected errors or missing OCX:
These are the two OCX-files used right now. Extract the cabs and right click and select install on the inf.

http://activex.microsoft.com/controls/vb6/comdlg32.CAB
http://activex.microsoft.com/controls/vb5/COMCTL32.CAB

File removed after 30 downloads

Last edited by Gramphos on 26-11-2001 at 19:34

	26-11-2001 06:03									#173
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Now everything works fine. But please tell me: I wanted to apply changes in a World Map and I was told "no file loaded or map only" How can I make changes work for that map?

	26-11-2001 08:48									#174
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have the latest version (.73), using an modified bic file and i get an error of: Civ3 ResCopy Unknown section: | after WMAP

	26-11-2001 12:30									#175
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quote: Originally posted by argha have the latest version (.73), using an modified bic file and i get an error of: Civ3 ResCopy Unknown section: | after WMAP

Post the BIC you try to load. That error is instead of the lockup when the game tried to read all unknown sections as a default section. It is most likely that the WMAP section is read in the wrong way for that particular BIC, and a change that you have done.

	26-11-2001 12:33									#176
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quote: Originally posted by Wernazuma III Now everything works fine. But please tell me: I wanted to apply changes in a World Map and I was told "no file loaded or map only" How can I make changes work for that map?

The worldmaps uses the default rules (civ3mod.bic). If you want to play on the worldmap with modified rules you either have to import it to a file with rules, load it in the editor and remove default rules or modify the civ3mod.bic with the rules and start the map as usual. I suggest the later as it wouldn't mess the tech tree as the others would do.

	26-11-2001 12:42									#177
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argha,
I have changed the WMAP-section to be read as variable length. Tell me if this works. (If so I still want the BIC to be able to figure out more about the format)

File gone after 30 downloads.

Last edited by Gramphos on 27-11-2001 at 01:02

	26-11-2001 16:17									#178
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what this is? Got it again, now at 1275 just when the medium table research had done all.

CIVILIZATION3 verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul CIVILIZATION3.EXE bei 017f:0051ec9e.
Register:
EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=0051ec9e EFLGS=00010212
EBX=00000025 SS=0187 ESP=00aafca8 EBP=ffffffff
ECX=0000000d DS=0187 ESI=0386ea00 FS=113f
EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
8b 17 6a 01 8b cf ff 52 54 8b c7 5f 5e 5d c2 08
Stapelwerte:
00000031 0386ea00 0000004a 0044b64a 005d065c ffffffff ffffffff 0386ea00 ffffffff 00000000 00000050 000000bc 000000bc 00df6b30 000f4255 0000004a

	26-11-2001 16:34									#179
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If I try to load the
satya's world map v4.3.bic
with your latest c3ct0-73-1
then I get w small window "no file loaded or map only"
seems your tool can't load that map.

same happens if I try to load
ZEB's Earth (Huge).bic

	26-11-2001 18:52									#180
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quote: Originally posted by Dreifels If I try to load the satya's world map v4.3.bic with your latest c3ct0-73-1 then I get w small window "no file loaded or map only" seems your tool can't load that map. same happens if I try to load ZEB's Earth (Huge).bic

The file is map only, and nothing can be copied anyway. What did you intend to do?