02-11-2001 14:55									#1
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This file also includes greener hills

It doesn't match with the grass, but it's still good. The reason I am not including the grass, is because the file is too large to attach here yet. I'll put them all together when I have finished. I just wanna give you guys something to play with.

I didn't change all of the mountains. The ones with snow aren't changed and the ones with tree's aren't changed (I think it looks nice to have two different types of mountain anyway).

I've sent MarkG the raised land and blue sea just now, so you should be able to get them soon..

btw, the resources are clearer on this grass, oh and I have changed the pine tree's, they are much better now, the terrain doesn't look so cluttered and you can keep an eye on everything easily.

All you have to do is extract the files into the art/terrain/ directory under civ3's directory. and pls make sure you back up the original, coz otherwise u will have to reinstall civ3 if u don't like the gfx.

Attachment: rockymountains.zip
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	02-11-2001 20:42									#2
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Thank you. You had my predictions (and desires) come true when I had said several times in the past month, that by the first weekend, I want to see new mountains!

	02-11-2001 20:55									#3
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Looks great Snoopy!!
Looking forward to next update

Willy

	02-11-2001 23:47									#4
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Screenshot!! Screenshot!!
(civ-less begging... )

	03-11-2001 00:20									#5
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Pretty nice... But they dont fit with the terrain so good, thus making it look even more ugly than the normal mountains. And they still just pop out in the middle of the grass.
The hills dont fit too.

Sorry I only critisized... But as you said, it's not done yet. Hopefully it will only improve.

	03-11-2001 00:45									#6
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Here are the new mountains & hills, basking in there new found glory.

Almost feels like Civ2 again.

Attachment: mountains.jpg
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Last edited by CapTVK on 03-11-2001 at 00:51

	03-11-2001 01:06									#7
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I think the mountains look great. I just wish the grass matched better...

Good job!

	03-11-2001 01:12									#8
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Thanks a lot for posting, CapTVK!
Anyone with an in-game screenshot using these civ2 mountains?

	03-11-2001 01:41									#9
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And here are the hills (sorry about posting this so late, the forum traffic is a killer these days :P )

Attachment: xhills.jpg
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	03-11-2001 03:25									#10
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Oh yes!!! Snoop comes through with the goods once again!! That looks terrific! Might I suggest a job at Firaxis? You obviously know what looks best for a game, better than the current Firaxis art director anyway :-)
Well, as soon as I get Civ 3 (still not out in Australia), I'll be downloading all these terrific mods!

	03-11-2001 04:54									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Sn00py

Again, great work Sn00py (not a surprise any more ). I wonder how improved this game will be in a few months...

	03-11-2001 06:42									#12
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Please post a screenshot of the new ocean also.

If you have time a before/after screenshot would be much appreciated by those like me who lack the game.

	03-11-2001 07:44									#13
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we need a screenshot of these mountains in the actual game

	03-11-2001 09:38									#14
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What I don't get it why Firaxis couldn't have done any of this graphics work!! Surely they realised that not every mountain in existance is a redish brown colour, right?

Also, did any snowy mountains get included in the game?

	03-11-2001 12:18									#15
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Zanzin, it took me roughly.. 10 minutes to change the color of those mountains. Why Firaxis didn't do this, I dunno..same goes for every other terrain.

btw I have fixed the grass for the mountains now.

I won't be releasing any more graphical work until I have finished everything; because I may keep making changes, and it will just be hassle for me, mark and everyone having all these updates.

	03-11-2001 12:22									#16
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Dracon:

Attachment: rockys.jpg
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	03-11-2001 13:24									#17
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Snoopy great work, and thx for the screenshot.

	03-11-2001 13:38									#18
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Wow, those mountains look great! Maybe Firaxis would think about incorpoarating some of your graphics into the first patch?(hint for Firaxis)

	03-11-2001 14:31									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Zanzin What I don't get it why Firaxis couldn't have done any of this graphics work!! Surely they realised that not every mountain in existance is a redish brown colour, right?

i believe they were going for an "old medieval map" look

quote: Also, did any snowy mountains get included in the game?

i think yes

	03-11-2001 15:43									#20
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Snoopy great work, and thx for the screenshot.

	04-11-2001 02:08									#21
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Very nice indeed =) Now if you could only start editting the combat files I'd be a happy camper, damn tanks being kill by swordsmen. Heh

	04-11-2001 05:59									#22
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could you put the others up like you did the first one?

as a zip.

	04-11-2001 09:01									#23
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Sweet! Thanks sn00py

	04-11-2001 09:08									#24
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Wow those are so much cooler. You rock. Want to go for a hike?

	04-11-2001 16:44									#25
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Those are real nice - thanks.

	05-11-2001 12:32									#26
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I think the graphics of the game look terrific, and I feel that the Firaxis art team did an excellent job directing their efforts towards creating a unified art theme.

That was one of the things that drew me to the game: the focus of the team and reliance upon Peter Brueghel's Tower of Babel (I think) as inspiration for the colors and design. Many people tend to overlook this fact as they demand that everything be realistic to contend with the state-of-the-art FPSes out there, completely overlooking that the team created a rather beautiful artisitic vision.

	05-11-2001 13:49									#27
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Cian, speaking as an artist, I totally understand and agree with you. However the idea of emerging a painting into a games graphics doesn't seem possible to me in this type of game. And I've tried to find the similarities between the painting and the civ3 artwork, and I can't see it.

The artwork they have done is fine and good, it's all great work, but it's not civ, civ has it's own style already, and by changing that style, u can kill it's atmosphere.

What you see here with the graphics I've put up, are nothing but tests to see if I can change stuff.
I thought I would just give it to ppl to use, while in the meantime I will do a graphics pack to make the graphics even better.

For example, some of the tree's I am keeping the same, and the red mountains, I am going to keep some of them but change other red mountains. I'm playing it now with the mixture of red and grey mountains. A mixture of autumn coloured tree's and different coloured pine tree's (which u can actually see hehe).
The water being much much brighter is a lot better. Still much more to do yet.

	05-11-2001 13:53									#28
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I don't have the game but I was wondering what resolution the pictures are at. I think it looks like 24 bit. I was wondering if anyone knows where to get a good colection of actual digital photographs of various terrains so I can go for a photograph, real world look.

	06-11-2001 07:46									#29
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Oh wow, you've done some really great work here! I mean, the grass not matching is real bad but you said that you fixed that, and by the screenshot, you have. It would be nice if you could post a replacement for the two files so that I could just put that in and replace the neon grass ones. The rest you can keep until you're done but now i'm spoiled and dont' want to put back in the red mountains. Please? Again great work!!!

	06-11-2001 08:14									#30
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I love the new mountains that have been updated to match the grass, but the "old" file is still there with the bright-green grass!

Can someone please upload the NEW mountain graphics with the grass that matches the grass in-game!?!?!