29-11-2001 11:48									#31
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I don't know exactly what the mistake I'm making is, so I'll present the facts of my editing and what the game is doing specifically, and hopefully someone can figure out what I'm doing wrong and give me some advice?

I created 3 new buildings, and a new unit. The first two were the Coracle and the Chichen Itza, of course. After those, I created the small wonder "Community Service Project" and the Wonder "National Football League"

I placed these in the civilopedia.txt and pediaicons.txt files as the tutorial instructed, I also added the splash numbers.

That's the cause, now here's the effect.

When I build my first city, the game freezes up. When I fixed the splash numbers, though, it did close and show me an illegal operation message. Soo....any ideas?

Please, email me if ya kin help. (Meercaholic@aol.com)

	02-12-2001 12:24									#32
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Plutarck - Good work man.

Any idea if you can (or will) post a downloadable mod for those of us who arent smart enough to make all these modifications ourselves? Like a scenario file or something.

Thanks - joespaniel

	15-12-2001 08:55									#33
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Game crashed after adding new unt. After I added a new unit everything looked great. The civilopiada and everything was awesome.

But once i right clicked on a city and went to change production to build the unit the system crashed.

Anybody have this problem? I didn't try and change it in the city view but i will once i get back.

Help Anybody!


Thnx

	15-12-2001 17:53									#34
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Ok i tried it in the city view and i can scroll down but once i get to the stealth bomber it crashes on me ( i'm assuming that the new unit is after that ).

So in short it looks like everytime it tres to show me the unit it crashes. Am i missing something here?

	15-12-2001 21:10									#35
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Im having the same problem Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

	16-12-2001 02:25									#36
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This tutorial is missing one thing with regard to new units.

Look into your /Art/units folder. Note all the folders inside, each named for a unit in the game. When you create a new unit, you need a new folder with the name of that new unit. This folder must include:

-An .INI file telling the game which .flc files to display, and which .amb files to play
-The .amb file that the .INI calls
-The .flc files that the .INI calls
-The .wav files that the .amb calls

You can copy these right across from another unit's folder if you want, but the new folder and the new INI need to be named for your new unit. So if I made a "Bronze Swordsman" unit, I'd need to create a new file in /Art/units, named Bronze Swordsman, with a file called Bronze Swordsman.INI inside it. This INI of course could call swordsmanattack.amb and swordsmanattack.flc, it doesn't matter what the .amb and .flc files are called, but the INI needs to be named for the unit. The version of Civ3CopyTool that I have does this automatically, but if it isn't being done automatically then I'd suggest you make sure this is true for your setup.

-Sev

	16-12-2001 05:13									#37
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Yeah i did that already. I have all those files and even copied the images over to the civpedia directory so they show up in there just fine also. But it still locks up.

I also noticed that when i view list in the city view i noticed that my settler know has the worker icon and the worker don't have an icon at all. So i think i screwed up big time somewhere.

So i'll just reinstall the patch and hope that fixes the problem with the worker and settler issue and sets the files for the new unit i added. This will allow me to start over with adding the Attack Chopper.

Thnx

	16-12-2001 05:20									#38
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One more thing, when you add a unit is it supposed to show an icon in the editor? Because mine don't show the icon at all.

( the settler and worker show the correct icons in the editor so i'm assuming they take those images from a different locatino then the build list? )

Thnx

	16-12-2001 13:38									#39
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quote: Originally posted by TheSettler Yeah i did that already. I have all those files and even copied the images over to the civpedia directory so they show up in there just fine also. But it still locks up. I also noticed that when i view list in the city view i noticed that my settler know has the worker icon and the worker don't have an icon at all. So i think i screwed up big time somewhere. So i'll just reinstall the patch and hope that fixes the problem with the worker and settler issue and sets the files for the new unit i added. This will allow me to start over with adding the Attack Chopper. Thnx

This is a problem with how the era dependent icons are calculated. They begin at number of units. So you have to move them some positions (one for each added unit.)

	16-12-2001 15:20									#40
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So i have to change ALL units icon numbers or just the worker and settler?

Thnx

	16-12-2001 15:49									#41
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You have not to change any icons, but to move the icons after the privateer as many steps to the right as you add units.

I attach a gif showing how it should look with one exta unit.

Attachment: units_32oneadded.gif
This has been downloaded 1218 time(s).

	17-12-2001 02:20									#42
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Ah that makes sense.

Thnx

	17-12-2001 02:32									#43
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The fle can be extended with more rows if needed.

	18-12-2001 10:56									#44
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hey gramphos,

question on adding resources. is there a numerical cap somewhere in the .bic file or elsewhere that limits them to 22 resources?

the original resources.pcx file is arranged so slots 0-7 are strategic, 8-15 are luxury, and 16-22 are for bonus. it only has 21 slots filled however, so we get 1 empty slot that the game reads. so if you only add 1 new resource it works just fine.

my new resources.pcx file is filled all the way. i made all the new resources bonus for now, and just tossed them in slots 22-35 of the resources.pcx. used the hacked civ3edit.exe to add them and their corresponding terrain changes. added them in the civilopedia.txt and pediaicons.txt files as well.

the only graphic that displays is the one is slot 22, although all the other resources are there, as i can examine the terrain tile by tile and see them listed on the tile as well as their benefits to the tiles...i just can't see the actual resource icons. and they also show up in the civilopedia, just not on the map.

any ideas?

	18-12-2001 18:15									#45
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I think there is a limit to 24 resources, as the bitwise number of what resources a terraian can hold only are 3 bytes.

	23-12-2001 22:04									#46
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I'm having an interesting time trying to get pics inside a town. I know i saw something someplace here, but i can't find it so someone please fill me in.
I found an interesting bug with the new editor... The first structure you add is whacked in that the production cost you put in is not the standard multiple of 5 for buildings or 10 for wonders... its 30 !? WTF What gets me is the civilopedia actually says that right amount. Something very wierd going on there.
Happy hacking all.

	24-12-2001 20:47									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Red Monk Plutarck, I created a new Wonder following your instructions (this one creates Libraries in all cities instead of Courthouses.) Everything worked fine until construction of the Wonder was complete, the game immediately crashed. Any advice? Red Monk

I think it might have something to do with the splash screen graghic. The game is expecting something that isn't there. I created a Mint small wonder that had problems as soon as it was finished and the graphic came up. Fortunatley I have Norton Crashguard on my system so I was able revive the game and go on after that. I had no other problems with it other than that.

	24-12-2001 21:13									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos I think there is a limit to 24 resources, as the bitwise number of what resources a terraian can hold only are 3 bytes.

There's a limit of 24 icons available to the game, but not on actual resources, at least with bonus resources. I'm using the same icon for two or three different resources sometimes and I haven't been having any problems. In fact, I'm getting a nicely varied lanscape. I'm now up to 18 bonus resources and the game is doing a nice job of spreading them around.

I did run into a problem at first though, when I added sheep in the hills. I think the game was trying to put two resources on the same square, gold and sheep, which caused the game to crash. I changed gold to a luxury resource, and I haven't had a problem since.

I think though that there is a limit to the strategic and luxury resources in that theres only room in the city view for 8 of each. I haven't put it to the test yet, but I think if you get more than 8 of either one, the game will crash every time you open up the city view.

It would be nice if Firaxis would come up with a patch that allows the city view resources windows to scroll. I have a lovely icon for timber, which they provided, and I'd love to use it as a strategic resource for building ships etc.. Frankly, I think it sucks that I can't use bonus resources as a requirement for construction.

	29-12-2001 02:52									#49
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Does anyone know of any errors/missing features in the editor ( aside
from being able to establish start positions ) that will cause
something to crash?

The only error I seem to be getting is with two units I created. it
should be pretty easy ... create a unit folder under /art/units with a
unit.ini file pointing to whatever .flcs ( from another unit ) you
happen to want to use. Then add PRTO_ info in the pediaicons and
civilopedia files.

I've done it other times with no problems. However, I added two
units for a scenario I am doing, and to test them I took out the
advancement requirements and set the shields to 1 so I could build
them right away and make sure they okay.

It crashed right away. I made sure the unit values and
pediaicons/civilopedia info were the same as a warrior this time, to
keep it simple. Still it crashed.

So I went back and took them out and tried to create them through
Civ3Copy Tool ... I got a 'mismatch' error which was solved when I
stopped loading in the map ... but without a map the scenario doesn't
exist. So why Civ3Copy would get errors is another issue.

I can load this thing up and play it fine when I don't have these two
units being built yet ... this leads me to think there's something
missing it is trying to read, but other than a unit folder with a .ini
file in it, and entries in pediaicons and civilopedia, I don't know
what could cause it to crash ... especially since I have added in
units successfully before. The Wonders, resources,civs and
improvements haven't caused anything to crash. If necessary I can post the files.

Thanks,

Hank

	06-01-2002 17:10									#50
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I have made this DanishCiv, but cant get those CivilopediaIcons working. And when i go into the foreign advisor screen, the game crashes.

I have added all that i would need, i think, to the pediaicons.txt file, but i cant get it to work.
This RACE_DANES thing is what i have wrote:

#RACE_ENGLISH
art\leaderheads\LZ.pcx
art\advisors\LZ_all.pcx
#RACE_DANES
art\leaderheads\DK.pcx
art\advisors\DK_all.pcx
####
# Happy Icons (conquer/domination/space winner)
#HAPPY_RACE_ROMANS
art\leaderheads\CE_HAP.pcx


Any solutions?

	13-01-2002 15:28									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Willem I think though that there is a limit to the strategic and luxury resources in that theres only room in the city view for 8 of each. I haven't put it to the test yet, but I think if you get more than 8 of either one, the game will crash every time you open up the city view. It would be nice if Firaxis would come up with a patch that allows the city view resources windows to scroll. I have a lovely icon for timber, which they provided, and I'd love to use it as a strategic resource for building ships etc.. Frankly, I think it sucks that I can't use bonus resources as a requirement for construction.

I have added Marble as a bonus resource to the game, but made it a requirement for some buildings and wonders, and it seems to be working just fine.
I also added Copper as a strategic resource, but I have not played far enough recently to run into an 8-item limit in the city view. I can see where the limit would come in for the luxuries since there is not room in the happiness area for more than 8 lines.

To answer Hanksome's question again (my old post seems to have disappeared in the server move), I have found that you need to manually copy all of the copied unit's files into the new folder, or else the game will crash. Copy Tool sets up the ini file to point to the old unit's folder for these files, but that apparently does not work.

Fimp, you cannot add a 17th civ to the game at this time, if that is what you are doing.

	13-01-2002 19:20									#52
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quote: Originally posted by WesW I have added Marble as a bonus resource to the game, but made it a requirement for some buildings and wonders, and it seems to be working just fine. I also added Copper as a strategic resource, but I have not played far enough recently to run into an 8-item limit in the city view. I can see where the limit would come in for the luxuries since there is not room in the happiness area for more than 8 lines. To answer Hanksome's question again (my old post seems to have disappeared in the server move), I have found that you need to manually copy all of the copied unit's files into the new folder, or else the game will crash. Copy Tool sets up the ini file to point to the old unit's folder for these files, but that apparently does not work. Fimp, you cannot add a 17th civ to the game at this time, if that is what you are doing.

Are you sure it's recognizing the Marble when it comes to a construction requirement? I tried almost the same thing, except with Limestone, and it didn't work. The game wouldn't recognize a bonus resource as a requirement,so I was stuck with buildings I couldn't build.

	14-01-2002 02:17									#53
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quote: Originally posted by WesW I have added Marble as a bonus resource to the game, but made it a requirement for some buildings and wonders, and it seems to be working just fine. I also added Copper as a strategic resource, but I have not played far enough recently to run into an 8-item limit in the city view. I can see where the limit would come in for the luxuries since there is not room in the happiness area for more than 8 lines. To answer Hanksome's question again (my old post seems to have disappeared in the server move), I have found that you need to manually copy all of the copied unit's files into the new folder, or else the game will crash. Copy Tool sets up the ini file to point to the old unit's folder for these files, but that apparently does not work. Fimp, you cannot add a 17th civ to the game at this time, if that is what you are doing.

I have already added a 17th civ, using Gramphos Civ3-copytool. Now i just wonder how i get this problem fixed.

	17-01-2002 03:57									#54
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you can't go to the foreign advisror screen if you've added a civ. the .exe is hardcoded with the flc files to display while you're talking to advisor. and since you have a new civ, Civ3 doesn't know which file to use, so it crashes.
when you started the game, did you notice that where you face should be (in the center of the "pick civ" screen), it's all black? well, it was for me anyways.
and as far as i know, the hardcoded flcs in the .exe is the reason you can't go to the foerign advisor screen. i just have to double clcik on a unit of the civ i wanna talk to. very annoying, but only way to do it (so far).

	17-01-2002 21:09									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Atlantys you can't go to the foreign advisror screen if you've added a civ. the .exe is hardcoded with the flc files to display while you're talking to advisor. and since you have a new civ, Civ3 doesn't know which file to use, so it crashes. when you started the game, did you notice that where you face should be (in the center of the "pick civ" screen), it's all black? well, it was for me anyways. and as far as i know, the hardcoded flcs in the .exe is the reason you can't go to the foerign advisor screen. i just have to double clcik on a unit of the civ i wanna talk to. very annoying, but only way to do it (so far).

But when you look at this in the PediaIcons.txt:

#RACE_ENGLISH
art\leaderheads\LZ.pcx
art\advisors\LZ_all.pcx
#RACE_DANES
art\leaderheads\DK.pcx
art\advisors\DK_all.pcx
####
# Happy Icons (conquer/domination/space winner)
#HAPPY_RACE_ROMANS
art\leaderheads\CE_HAP.pcx

i thought that the art\advisors\DK_all.pcx thing would tell the game to loof for the files... guess not. Hope you can do this in an upcoming patch.

But at the Civ selection screen it works just fine. Look for yourself in my DanishCiv thread.

	22-01-2002 09:21									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Plutarck But we'll save ourselves some effort. According to PediaIcons.txt's last entry, Battlefield Medicine is in the 63rd slot. There are 10 spaceship parts, which are counted, so that means the very first item you create is in the 74th position. Because I created Guild Hall first my Chichen Itza is in number 75. So since I just copied the Pyramid's entrys everywhere else, I just went ahead and did it again. So my entry is this: #WON_SPLASH_75 art\wonder splash\pyramid.pcx

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I've been fighting with that crash for weeks now. I looked in that area and tried to copy a graphic, but I didn't account for the spaceship parts. I numbered it #64, right after Battlefield Medicine. It makes perfect sense to me now. I would never have thought of that.

	29-01-2002 04:25									#57
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I got a weird problem while creating technologies.

I did exactly what Plutarck said, lowering the icon number for writing by one for each technology I created.

So here's the deal: I started from scratch, with the original civ3mod.bic file, totally untouched, pure and kept clear from any evil modifications.

With the copytool, I copied Music Theory. Then, went in the Civ3edit tool, renamed the copied tech to Magical Power, with a prerequisite of Chivalry and Music Theory. I verified the civilopedia.txt an pediaicons.txt files, and everything was just ok.

I tried the game (note that I only added this tech and nothing else to the bic file.). Everything was cool, the game didn't crash once I got Writing. And later, it didn't crash once I got Magical Theory. WOW! The first try was perfect!

Then, I stopped the game and copied Literature to create a second tech called Spelling, that I put between Writing and Literature. Once again, I tried a new game, no crashes, everything was just perfect... but evil is now in the game, I can't create any Naval Units or Coastal improvements (like Colossus, Harbor, etc....). Holy cow... Does somebody know what happened?

	31-01-2002 09:43									#58
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Maybe you're not near the ocean... you need to have your city next to water to build naval units or the Colossus.

	31-01-2002 20:05									#59
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funny, really funny...........

I was near the ocean, don't worry about that...

	04-02-2002 15:08									#60
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grr