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thecrazyroach
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Boston, Massachusetts
Nov 2001
time: 05:16
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Animated Hitler Leaderhead, by request. (Germany)
ftp://216.164.136.12 user: anonymous, no password
file is in folder called LeaderHeads
if you don't like it, don't download it, i don't want to hear grief.
Play against the Reich, or as them, i don't care.
Leaders changed to Himmler, Hess, etc.
The popular Fascist gov mod is included in the bic file already.
Germany changed to fav gov = Fascism.
All else the same.
This is the first animated head in the upcoming wwii mod.
here's the preview, game image is standard size.
 Attachment: hitler_preview.jpg
This has been downloaded 1074 time(s).
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thecrazyroach
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Boston, Massachusetts
Nov 2001
time: 05:16
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Added Prsident Vladamir Putin as your Russian leader
ftp://216.164.136.12 user: anonymous, no password
file is in folder called LeaderHeads
Attachment: putin_preview.jpg
This has been downloaded 1043 time(s).
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Wolfshanze
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Thanks crazyroach. Very appreciated!
Some more WWII leaders would be cool too, like Stalin, Churchill, FDR, etc.
Now then, none of you politically correct yahoos better say one bad thing about crazyroach, since the Hitler head was my idea/request anyways!
You wanna flame somebody, pick on somebody else and go after me. Lord knows you all assume anyone who even thinks about WWII Germany is labeled a nazi by you guys and you all get so damn high and mighty and we all know your morals are so much better than ours... yadda, yadda, yadda. So in advance lay off crazyroach!
Keep up the good work Crazyroach... unfortunately today is my last full day in America... getting deployed to the Gulf tomorrow to defend the American way of life!
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Wolfshanze
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Crazy Roach, the Hitler animation is good work, but I did realize something.
You certainly did the "hard work" on the animations... I could never figure that out myself, but you seemed to have missed the "easy bit" with the still shots of happy/angry/content leaders in the "F4" Trade menu... for instance, I still see Bismarck's mug on the F4 trade menu!!!
We're talking about the "leaderheads" directory on the Art folder of course.
Obviously this should be an easy fix, and it's something I can even do myself as I do know how to manipulate still shots, but I just thought this might be something you want to look into to complete your excellent work!
I will try to incorprate your head into the "official" Fascist Patch with your kind permission!
Last edited by Wolfshanze on 18-11-2001 at 23:27
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thecrazyroach
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Boston, Massachusetts
Nov 2001
time: 05:16
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Ok, here's the foreign advisor screen pix.
1. Back up /art/advisors/BS_all.pcx
2. Place this BS_all.pcx in /art/advisors
that'll take care of the foreign advisor screen.
next we'll have to do the victory /defeat images.
 Attachment: hitler_foreignscreen.zip
This has been downloaded 59 time(s).
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thecrazyroach
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Boston, Massachusetts
Nov 2001
time: 05:16
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Happy, Content, Angry
file in post right above this one.
 Attachment: foreignscreen_preview.gif
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ludwaffe
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la, ca
Nov 2001
time: 21:16
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quote:
Oh, by the way, Mr. Ludwaffe, no war? Tell that to the families of the British or American special forces over in Afghanistan tonight, or to the families who lost loved ones on Sept. 11th. I doubt their response will be as polite as mine. Besides, it's only been 2 months. Two months after Sept. '39 (when WWII began), we Yanks weren't even in the war yet. Please be patient. This war is young.
Lastly, may I ask you, does your comfortable existence in L.A. not consider New York part of your home? Are they not close enough to you? No? Again, be patient. This war is young. |
To the families of the British or American special forces, if they lose their loved ones in Afghanistan, they lost them in part of a glorified police action, no more a "war" than the one in Somalia where American servicemen were killed by warlords armed with rocket launchers. The ~5K people who died on 9.11 died in a terrorist action, a roughly three-hour long orchestrated attempt by a small amount of people to inflict terror, death, and suffering amongst a large amount of people.
Kinda like how small groups of American and British warplanes cause terror, death, and suffering amongst a large amount of people. But, of course, that's what the Afghani people get for being in Afghanistan, right?
If this 'war' is young in the same manner as WWII, who will we be fighting next year, when we've thrown the Taliban out of Afghanistan? Iraq? Saudi Arabia? Will we go help the Russians blow up Chechnya? There's a whole lot of countries out there that MIGHT just have some citizens who are hostile to America, so we might as well bomb everybody, just to be sure. 
As for the la comfort comment, ignoring the fact that most of the people who died aboard the airplanes were going to la and thus for all you know loved ones of mine coulda been amongst those that perished (tho this is not the case), as an American citizen, I felt that the indiscriminate killing of thousands of Americas was, in a way, an attack on all of us, from AK to WY. And as much as I want to see those responsible suffer, carpetbombing another country to bring a small group of people to justice seems like a morally repugnant exericse. I guess it's the old question of do the ends justify the means? or, in Civ-terms,
If Shaka had to kill 10 workers in Egypt to kill 1 Archer in Thebes, would he still have a Spotless reputation?
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Churchill
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...I'll just put in my two cents about the operation against terrorism/Taliban. It is quite easy for certain people to sit back in the comfort of their American homes and denounce US actions in Afghanistan. I mean, we are no more than Nazis when it comes down to it, right? The United States has always been the evildoer, spreading those infernal ideas of democracy and freedom--what oppression! Those poor, poor Afghani women who now are able to go to school, laugh in public, feel like humans rather than property--who will save them from the imperial Americans and Brits?
The Taliban are--check that, were--an evil regime. Granted, it remains to be seen how much better the new government will be, but how could it be worse? And to those of you who make it a pastime to malign the egregious amounts of money spent on the Evil American War Machine--just how much of that money is spent developing capabilities which reduce the chances of innocents being killed? Were there really such things as surgical strikes from aircraft flying tens of thousands of feet above ground before we used them? You know, it is a lot cheaper to develop big and dirty weapons which take out the designated target and whatever else is in the vicinity. If we were really as Mr. Ludwaffe would have you believe, we would not waste billions of dollars eking out the last drop of precision from our weapons as we currently try to do.
I would venture to bet that most of those poor Afghanis welcome the overthrow of the Taliban as much as anything they could imagine. Given that we don't target civilians (you can't really believe this) and we engage enemies with the most technologically advanced and accurate weapons of any nation, how is this operation morally unjustified? Is the dismantling of the Taliban and subsequent assault on Al Qaeda not in the best interests of the world's population, most notably Afghanistan's?
I challenge anyone to come up with another country in recent memory more maligned relative to the good it has produced than the United States is today. The adage "damned if you do, damned if you don't" seems to fit perfectly. Yes, we want the Americans in the Middle East/Central Asia/Balkans/Africa but yet we don't really. We really just want to complain because America is bigger and more powerful than others, and so necessarily must be corrupt and evil and a bully, acting purely in its own interest and disregarding all rights, human and otherwise.
We are surely not the pristine embodiment of good, but we are certainly closer to it than most world powers have been. Do American and British warplanes cause death? Yes, people die when they are being attacked. Taliban and Al Qaeda members have chosen to contribute to evil and oppressive acts; for that they are being punished. It is obviously tragic when innocents are caught up in and get killed in attacks, but this is inevitable in war. The US and British forces fighting now are the closest humanity has come to being able to pick and choose targets and prosecute them with no side effects. People die in wars, even innocent people, but less die from these operations than ever before.
Kumbaya is nice and all, and sure, I'll imagine all the people living for the day, but until then (back in reality) there are still bad people who we need to get rid of, and it is our moral imperative to do so.
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DaGame2584
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Arkansas, USA
Nov 2001
time: 23:16
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roach, can you please do Ronald Regan next? I hope so, cause he was my favorite President. The Taliban better then God that he isn't President right now. If he was, we'd be saying "What Taliban" cause Ronald wouldn't mess around with them.
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NYPD_Apache
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quote:
Originally posted by Barnacle Bill
Why can't people leave that behind if it doesn't pertain to the game? .... If someone creates a mod to add a leader and you dislike that leader for ideological reasons, can't you just not use it instead of starting a mud-slinging contest? |
I'm with you, BB. Civ3 is a good game without starting a bunch of political-opinion idiocy.
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ludwaffe
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la, ca
Nov 2001
time: 21:16
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And it doesn't blow either! Honestly! If I had to choose between living in America and living in an old refrigerator box, I would very easily choose America. 
I just can't always agree with the decisions our elected (and unelected) officials choose to embark upon the rest of the world. For the elected officials, I do my part in protesting by employing my right to vote. But for the unelected ones, my voice doesn't really matter, so I get long-winded on the wrong forums. 
Does our military intentionally blow up innocent people? No, that's the CIA's job. Our fine servicemen and women aren't being told by an evil empire to go out and rape the rest of the world for the benefit of George II's public ratings.
But in non-hippie-b.s., yes the Taliban is a repressive govt and even though we've been giving it money, now that it is unwilling to distance itself from the al-Qaeda and Mr. bin Laden, it does deserve to be put down. The faster the better. However, as the result of "damned if you do, damned if you don't", now that we've (almost) got rid of the Taliban, we (or, rather, our military personnel) need to spend a couple years over there making sure another crazy nuthouse government doesn't take over. The war on terrorism (if this really does become an honest term and not just a soundbyte) will have to be fought in a manner different from the war on communism, which didn't really cause much except the construction of a few extra thousand nuclear missiles. Since terrorism is an ideological concept (being taught at by schools in such places as Pakistan, nuclear-armed military-despotism) we need to fight a war in the minds and hearts of our enemies. We need to tell Saudi Arabia to STOP funding these schools that are producing tomorrow's bin Ladens.
But to do so will risk alienating a country that helps us get much of our oil.
Is the American govt willing to do this? Because if it's not, then it doesn't really matter if we get rid of the Taliban, because similar groups will just keep on reappearing. The main money-maker for these "Islamic" fundamentalist nutjobs is oil, and so to remove them, we have to remove the market for oil.
Or replace the government of every country between Israel and India with a democratically-elected pro-freedom anti-terrorist government.
...neither of which is likely to happen, but either of which is NECESSARY to make this war on terrorism successful in any long-term sense of the word.
But that's just my hawkish attitude.
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vette_21
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Chatsworth CA
Jul 2001
time: 21:16
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quote:
Originally posted by ludwaffe
Though, I guess, all of us were responsible for the last point, but still, I guess the point I'm trying to put across is, I have been and always will be against terrorism, as are almost all Americans. However, I can not, with a clear conscience, support the indiscriminate bombing of people in Afghanistan under the orders of a man who probably did not win Florida, and is only president because of ideological concerns amongst the Supreme Court. |
Indiscriminate??? That is one of the most ignorant statements that i have heard in a long time. The fire bombing of Tokyo was indiscriminate, the V-2 attacks on London was indiscriminate, the precision bombing of military targets in Afghanistan is by no stretch of the definition indiscriminate. The Taliban has been hiding in Mosques, and residential areas. Why? Because they know that we won't indiscriminately bomb residential areas. Yes sometimes innocents are killed but that happens in war and if we were indiscriminant the casualties would be in the thousands, instead of the hundreds that the Taliban claims! And we all know how trustworthy they are! Please do not use ignorant claims to try to knock on bush, if your gonna make fun of him at least make the claim accurate.
One more thing how would supporting the Texas oil industry make bush a terrorist? Is it just me or doesn't it seem logical that American Oil would compete with oil coming from the Middle East?
I am sorry that i went on a political tangent but i just couldn't let this go.
I like the idea of modern leader heads by the way!
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facistdictator
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Crazyroach Stalin please! please! I cant stand having Russia in my game being controlled by a fat grey headed woman. Let Stalin lay down the iron fist of communism over the nation and rule by fear, causing the world to tremble HA!HA!HA! umph, sorry guess i got carried away.
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HunterAssasin
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Wow great heads man.
My vote for your next one is Lenin.
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thecrazyroach
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Boston, Massachusetts
Nov 2001
time: 05:16
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Animated Stalin Leaderhead, by request. (Russia)
ftp://216.164.136.12 user: anonymous, no password
file is in folder called LeaderHeads.
somebody has been bustin my balls over this one so next is Jean Chretien of Canada...
Here's the preview...
Attachment: stalin_preview.jpg
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thecrazyroach
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Boston, Massachusetts
Nov 2001
time: 05:16
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this will keep you busy.
Attachment: animatedtutorial.zip
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facistdictator
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Crazyroach Ive figured out why Stalin can not be used as my permanent leader. You did not include the 8 different images of Stalin happy, angry, conquered, and etc, etc. Those images have to be placed in the art/leaderheads like the hitler file you made and george bush file. Without those Stalin will be just a scenario. Also one more thing I loaded the Stalin scenario and yes he was my leader but when I click on description it shows Catherine and tells about her. Is it possible to change that as well and have Stalin's picture with his history. Please reply. Thanx
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TimothyP
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Many good points Ludwaffe.
Do these Graphics work properly?
I mean, are there any bugs? (Freezing, etc.)
Because if they work fine then I'm going to download them for sure!!
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SpaceWeasel
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Gainesville, FL
Dec 2001
time: 00:16
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GREAT work on the leaderheads. But GW Bush, Blair, Putin, Stalin.... am I the only one noticing a *trend* here? =P
A note on the ommission of Napoleon and Stalin: I really appreciate Firaxis for making the decision to give more countries female leaders. I could imagine that in the same way I don't want to play as a gray-haired grandma or some do-goody French saint, a female player might not want to play as a big smelly mustache-wearing Russian or a short guy with a massive inferiority complex. And I appreciate the fact that they used female leaders where they were significant, rather than dredging up some obscure female monarch for a civ most of us know little about (like say the Babylonians) or sticking the Iroqouis with Pochahontas =P. I think the ideal thing here would have been to provide a male/female option, but I think it's pretty obvious that they got rusehd towards the end. And it was certainly a reasonable assumption that the (predominently male) mod community would much more quickly take over adding Hitler, Napoleon, et al than they would Joan and Catherine.
My $0.02.
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18-11-2001 07:51
<- (in jail until I can afford a computer that will run Civ3)
I'll always remember him for the quote he allegedly made to a mob of peasants who were rioting after he made them change from their national dress to Western garb (including shaving off their beards.) 
hey crazyroach I got a question. How do I make Stalin my permanent leader without having to load a scenario? I downloaded your Hitler a while back and he is now my permanent leader. I placed the Stalin FLC. in my custom directory in the art/Flics/Custom file with my Hitler Flic. Where am I supposed to put the Civ3 edit document included in the Stalin zip. I want it permanent.
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