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The BUSH civ special abilities.....
a) BIG DADDY, any negative result and be redetermined do to influence of powerful daddy and friends.
b) CONFUSION, diplomatic action that results in allies or enemies being unable to understand your remarks, stuns them and increases your gold intake for one round.
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SpaceWeasel
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Gainesville, FL
Dec 2001
time: 00:16
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I've been searching around all day and I can't find a single photograph of Hammurabi. I guess I'll keep looking...
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Tridotan1
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Originally posted by ludwaffe
To the families of the British or American special forces, if they lose their loved ones in Afghanistan, they lost them in part of a glorified police action, no more a "war" than the one in Somalia where American servicemen were killed by warlords armed with rocket launchers. The ~5K people who died on 9.11 died in a terrorist action, a roughly three-hour long orchestrated attempt by a small amount of people to inflict terror, death, and suffering amongst a large amount of people.
Kinda like how small groups of American and British warplanes cause terror, death, and suffering amongst a large amount of people. But, of course, that's what the Afghani people get for being in Afghanistan, right?
If this 'war' is young in the same manner as WWII, who will we be fighting next year, when we've thrown the Taliban out of Afghanistan? Iraq? Saudi Arabia? Will we go help the Russians blow up Chechnya? There's a whole lot of countries out there that MIGHT just have some citizens who are hostile to America, so we might as well bomb everybody, just to be sure. 
As for the la comfort comment, ignoring the fact that most of the people who died aboard the airplanes were going to la and thus for all you know loved ones of mine coulda been amongst those that perished (tho this is not the case), as an American citizen, I felt that the indiscriminate killing of thousands of Americas was, in a way, an attack on all of us, from AK to WY. And as much as I want to see those responsible suffer, carpetbombing another country to bring a small group of people to justice seems like a morally repugnant exericse. I guess it's the old question of do the ends justify the means? or, in Civ-terms,
If Shaka had to kill 10 workers in Egypt to kill 1 Archer in Thebes, would he still have a Spotless reputation? |
Whose side are you on, ****?
Don't you realise that the Taliban are enemies of the US and Britain because they refused to hand over Bin Laden? He is not a "freedom fighter" or "militant" he is a plain ar**hole of a terrorist. Why do you think that, because we attacked the Taliban for not handing over Bin Laden we are going to attack all Islamic States?
You are a fool!
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ludwaffe
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la, ca
Nov 2001
time: 21:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Tridotan1
Whose side are you on, ****?
Don't you realise that the Taliban are enemies of the US and Britain because they refused to hand over Bin Laden? He is not a "freedom fighter" or "militant" he is a plain ar**hole of a terrorist. Why do you think that, because we attacked the Taliban for not handing over Bin Laden we are going to attack all Islamic States?
You are a fool! |
As a person who thought the Taliban was a bad idea BEFORE this entire 'war' began, I guess I'm not on America's side, because we continued to aid the Taliban in taking control of Afghanistan until mere months ago, despite their attitudes towards women, the role of warped fundamentalists in their government, their willingness to continue poverty in their country, and giving asylum to Osama bin Laden.
However, our relationship with the country began to go on the sour side when negotiations with the Taliban over access to their land to build an oil pipeline continued to go fruitless. American officials reportedly made statements to the effect of "we could install a more Western-friendly govt."
And 9/11 gave us an excuse to.
Despite whatever good intentions they might have, the American and British troops fighting in Afghanistan are fighting for the betterment of oil. They are fighting so that Afghanistan and Pakistan can get the riches of Caspian Sea oil, and through them our own oil-hungry billionaires.
I don't think we're going to attack all Islamic States. I think that's part of the problem in this 'war'. If we pride ourselves in toppling an autocratic anti-American regime in Afghan., we should NOT look the other way while the same sort of jihad-happy govts exist in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt....
But...then again, I'm such a fool that I value a human life over a barrel of fossil fuel. So never mind.
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New York
Jun 2001
time: 00:16
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whosurdaddy
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New York
Jun 2001
time: 00:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Ozymandous
And what other leader would you rather associate Civ3 with? Clinton? Yeah, if you did that make sure to edit the game so all female rulers and the Chinese get "special" discounts with free tech's and other "favors" all the time..
Heh, also raise the unhappiness quotent for your Civ to represent how much a lot of the US couldn't stand him personally. |
I know i really shouldn't be descending to your level, but who can resist a good mud slinging contest eh  ...
If those kind of editions should be made by putting Clinton in the game, then the George W Bush download should include a Mod which automatically doubles pollution, automatically plunges your civ's treasury into deficits, Also more than half of your population should become unhappy to reflect the opinions of the majority of Americans who in fact voted for George W’s opponent in the election.
But on the plus side, at least with George W. as a leader, the Americans in Civ 3 should be able to abrogate any international treaties they want without repercussions (well besides pissing off the whole rest of the world) 
But anyway, the Tony Blair leader animation is quite good , i give it a thumbs up 
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fbmason
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Originally posted by hurdygurdy
Does anyone have the ability to turn the graphics cartoonish like the current leaders?
I wouldn't mind changing the leaders out, but having a photo-realistic one mixed with cartoons would be annoying and inflict pain on my sense of continuity.
Cheers,
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I could create the graphics using Poser 4, all I need are the correct sizes and someone that knows how to put them into the game...
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sargon2
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Kreuzberg/Berlin/Germany/Europe/Earth
Jan 2002
time: 05:16
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As a German I say it is OK for all who want it to take Hitler as the german Leaderhead. War, and thats an american lesson, doesen't enjoy, unless u got a fight against the evil - even better achis of evil. I say that out of sarcasm. But then for all. Isn't there an american Leader that is especially responsebal for Hundretthousands of killed and tourtured Indians and Afroamericans - may be I got some fun in wiping out the American Civ lead by him. (don't take that personal)
So my suggestion: for every Civ a good and an evil leader.
Oh I got just an idea. There is a group in Germany that is especialy grateful to u - it's the Neonazis. They will probebly try to get with their beloved idiot the dominance of the world. But may be they decrease that way their agressions in reality.
Except them there is no one yearning to get him back. He was the worst we got ever from the Austrians. He was never patiotic, he preffered a light-haired blue-eyed Icelandian to a black-haired and brown-eyed Bavarian. His ideology was race not nation.
Germany:
good: Barbarossa (middleage emperor), Adenauer (first Chancelor of New-Germany layed the fundament of the political and economical success), Willy Brandt (a belouved chancelor, worked on better relatinship to poland and Israel)
evil: Hitler (Austrianbut leader(Fuehrer) of Germany from 1933-1945 the worst time in german history
France:
good: Mitterand,
evil: Napoleon ( lead Europe in a continent-wide war with millions of deads most in Germany),Louis XIV (created oppositions of Germany and France up to the WWII)
Romans/Italy:
good: Constantine (brought Christianity), Deocletian aformer Soldier he lead only a few wars, but was a genius of administration)
evil: Moussolini(inventor of fashism), Ceasar( lead PR-wars in Gallia and Germania)
England:
good: Arthus (was the last), boot-licking-Blair is OK,too
evil: who was the leader during the WOI again, and ask the Irish about William, Thatcher (just because of her evil mind)
Russia:
good: Peter the Great, Gorbatscew
evil: Stalin, Ivan (but his time was just that grosny)
Zulu:
good: Mandela (OK he is no origin-Zulu, but that lays to day in his country and Stalin was an Georgian, and no Russian, too)
good/evil: Shaka (guess he got both aspects like Ivan)
Babylonia:
good: Assurbanipal (was Assyrian, but their are Assyrian Cities in the bab. empire either), Hammurabi
evil: who lead again the Jews out of Israel, Esarhaddon (both bible-cenristic),
Persia:
good: Cyros, Cambyses(sp?), (they formed a tolerant country)
evil: Xerxes(greek-centristic)(got a hesitating mind)
China:
good: all Leaders that freed the Chinese from occupation
evil: Mao Tse Tung, Kai-Shek none of them is better
Japan: no idea, but I'm open for suggestions
Egyt:
good: Tutankhamu, Akhenaten (the coolest of all ancient leaders)
evil: Ramses of what number did exspell the Israelites (bible-cenristic),
India:
good: Ghandi,
evil: no idea (not Vajpayee he is just defending)
Iroqois/Atstecs: no idea
America:
good: your suggestion
evil: your suggestion
Greece:
good: Phillip II. Alexander the Great, Alcibiades (only General but genial)
evil: Pericles
Especialy in the ancient times it is difficult to see wether a leader is evil or good or inbetween
I LOVE AMERICA AND THEIR CULTURE ESPECIALY THINGS OF GERMAN ORIGIN:
BUT THE FOREIGN POLICY IS LESS GOOD
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s4ur0n27
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montréal
Mar 2002
time: 00:16
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the link doesnt work for me
i tried with cuteftp and it doesnt work..
could someone send me hitler, stalin and bush to me by icq plz?
icq# : 28887721
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robsen
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What about putting some other leaders?
Churchill for Britain.
Napoleon Bonaparte or Charles de Gaulle for the French.
Sadate or Nasser for the Egyptians.
Hiro Hito for the Japanese.
Robsen.
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Lawrence of Arabia
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of the Gulag Archipelago
Apr 2001
time: 06:16
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Man, I'm luving all of this anti-bush stuff in this thread. Like I say, Bush's eyes are brown because there's so much Bull in his head.
quote:
The BUSH civ special abilities.....
a) BIG DADDY, any negative result and be redetermined do to influence of powerful daddy and friends.
b) CONFUSION, diplomatic action that results in allies or enemies being unable to understand your remarks, stuns them and increases your gold intake for one round.
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ROTFLOL
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America "evil": Bush , Nixon , Custer (ok never a president but OH what an idiot!)
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Another with a ROTFLOL!
Now on a more serious note
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Whose side are you on, ****?
Don't you realise that the Taliban are enemies of the US and Britain because they refused to hand over Bin Laden? He is not a "freedom fighter" or "militant" he is a plain ar**hole of a terrorist. Why do you think that, because we attacked the Taliban for not handing over Bin Laden we are going to attack all Islamic States?
You are a fool! |
As usual, it depends on which side you are on. For us, he is a militant/terrorist/scum/evil. For the average hard line Muslim, he is a freedom fighter
You are the ignorant fool because you are incapable of looking at the other side and appreciating their view on things.
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But on the plus side, at least with George W. as a leader, the Americans in Civ 3 should be able to abrogate any international treaties they want without repercussions (well besides pissing off the whole rest of the world) |
hehehehehe
And BTW, who the hell cares what Clinton does in his own time? He was still a capable leader, more so then Bush. At least Clinton knew where Afghanistan was on the map.
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luegner
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Las Vegas
Apr 2002
time: 21:16
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If you're gonna use Bush, then go all out and do all the pictures. I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of that retard's face after I kick his ass and take all his cities. Gore for 2004!
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Vancouver, BC
Jun 2003
time: 21:16
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Yes DON'T stop, btw, the links are dead, can we get new ones?
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maciek
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Perth, WA
Dec 2002
time: 13:16
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You can get new ones, but they won't be animated. Still, better than nothing. I'll upload them soon (in a new thread).
Last edited by maciek on 06-07-2003 at 14:22
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Burseq
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quote:
Originally posted by Maccabee2
Great work on Bush!
For ancient times, he could wear Celtic garb. Many Texans are Scots-Irish by descent; I know, because I'm one of them.
For industrial age, he would never wear a top hat...rather, a cowboy hat with handlebar moustache!
As to foreigners who dislike him, it's your right to...and I stand ready to die on foreign shores protecting your freedom to do so. But I advise a little discretion on these boards....after all, you are representing your country in the view voting Americans. Maybe next time it will be your country that needs a little help. Odds are, we're already helping your nation in some way, financially or otherwise.
As to Americans...if you're still sore over the election, just remember -- almost 1 million service men and women chewed holes through their lips for eight years maintaining a stoic silence out of respect for their Commander in Chief, while their comrades were sent as fodder to places like Mogadishu. Now its your turn to prove your "respect for the presidency." This war isn't on a computer simulation, though I wish that it was. It's real; roll up your sleeves or get out of the way.
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F u c k you.
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16-12-2001 15:10
Gore in '04, hmmmm. Where was he when Sudan offered to turn over Bin Laden? Those who would lead must dare to speak out for what's right, even if it opposes their bosses views. In all fairness, perhaps he didn't know. Perhaps he wasn't part of that briefing. I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton kept him in the dark. Willie rarely shared the credit when it mattered most. I'll give Gore credit for doing damage control behind such a scalawag of a boss.
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