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Stefu is offline Stefu
Emperor
CLOWNS WIT DA DOWNS 4 LIFE YO!
Jan 1970
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Hey, newbs, come to Off-Topic! It rawks!

*Stefu prepares to be lynched by other OT vets*

TechWins is offline TechWins
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Arizona
Apr 2001
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If you haven't been around for at least 6 months on this forum and you aren't a King rank then you are not even a person let alone a non-newbie. That means I have just a few more days before I can shake off that newbie title and finally become a human, yeah.

Earthling7 is offline Earthling7
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I wonder how many of them will stay in 6 months.


I didn't...

Dr. Nick is offline Dr. Nick
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Mola mazo!
Oct 2000
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We must not allow the international newbie conspiracy to poison our precious bodily fluids! Hasta la victoria siempre!

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Settler
Baltimore, Originally home to state sanctioned piracy!
Jun 2001
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Hey, I think many of the newbies flooding this forum are missing Horse's very important point here - that there is an enourmous amount of useful info, strats, helps, stories, cheats and the like, each on their respective boards. When you start new threads on topics already under discussion in an on-going thread, you wind up pushing the good, solid information posted by the 'authorities' (i.e. the "Old Timers") to the back pages- making the search for the best, most reliable info much more difficult.

Cybershy- I never even thought about the DL connection, but on further reflection HAH! That certainly would explain 80-90% of 'em! (I'm clearly a newbie by my post stats and login date, but hell, it seems to be pretty difficult to do this by accident IMHO). - Now watch me dbl post this time

GP is so correct to say that for all of the people who are new to these boards - not necessarily those new to civ - should seriously see how far the State of the Art in Civin' has come - go and check the CivII Strategy board! Seriously DO IT Now!DO IT Now!

The most important element in gleaning the 'right' info is to familiarize yourself with the source. Go to the CivII and SMAC boards and decide for yourself who the 'genuine' sources are (many of them are still on the boards, and haven't yet switched over to III yet). Information is generally only as good as its source.

I really should qualify my own statements (at least based on the above). Until I came here about two years ago, I played CivII at Prince with success, after I found this excellent source of information (IMO overall the best source by far), I now play with great success at Deity, though I have yet to master OCC - I like to play a more traditional 'loosely' Perfectionist strategy

Also, it should be noted that I am waiting to get CivIII until it is patched-especially the editor, mostly because I'll have to upgrade my old monitor to fully enjoy the new incarnation, and I am terribly jealous of all of you who already have it in their grubby little paws

Peace and Respect to all you old timers- and some love to the newbies.

Zanzin is offline Zanzin
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Mar 2001
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Damn n00bs.

We post for years waiting the release of civ3, then the second it comes out, we're inundated by n00bs and people who think they know more than us.

Sure, I'm only a Prince, but I've been around a while!!

IMO, anybody < warlord should only speak when spoken to

cassembler is offline cassembler
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Oct 2001
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This forum has turned into a kind of newbie hell

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Hi, my name is Brian, I'm a 14 year old from Kansas and I'd like to say hello. I have been watching over these forums for a long time just seeing what people have to say. I haven't really found too much out about civilization 3 as I had hoped. Instead I see a lot of people whining about minor things that they personally don't like or problems that make the game imperfect.


The irony is freakin' hilarious.

civmonger is offline civmonger
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Nov 2001
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oh brother, is this how all elites react? And just because your elite in the forum doesnt mean your an elite gamer.
OO! Take that! LOL


By the way, I've played every civ game (even fantastic worlds "chuckle") and I love civ3, sure it has some minor errors which a patch can address so stop all your whining. If you dont like the game I suggest you get more experience with an easier, less challenging strategy game and come back to civ3 when your mature enough to be challenged by a great game.
And yes I am a newbie to this forum!

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Ari Rahikkala is offline Ari Rahikkala
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Unreported loss of streaming in atomic read operation
Oct 1999
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Maybe I should start recruiting people to micronationalism here...

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Oct 2000
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IMO, anybody < warlord should only speak when spoken to


And in my opinion anyone who hasnt been here a year shouldnt speak unless spoken too

So if you would kindly hush? Much thanks

KrazyHorse is offline KrazyHorse
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May 2001
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A pony isn't a baby horse !
A pony is a race !

newbies




Next we're gonna have to teach 'em to walk, too.

Hey! New members! Visit the Off-Topic Forum. Don't forget to start a "Hi! I'm new" thread so we can welcome you properly. Ignore the jerks here. We're much friendlier in the OT.

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Mar 1999
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it's getting even more fun when the newbies start to yell at each other !

*sits down and watches the show*

S. Kroeze is offline S. Kroeze
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Dec 1999
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Hey! New members! Visit the Off-Topic Forum. Don't forget to start a "Hi! I'm new" thread so we can welcome you properly. Ignore the jerks here.
We're much friendlier in the OT.



I hope this remark is meant ironically.

In my opinion, the hey-day of the CivIII Forums were the first months of 2000 when Korn469 and Raingoon were directing the composition of the EC3 WishList and Yin26 was still the moderator of this Forum. Discussion was both intelligent and generally polite. Posters were usually friendly and supportive and generally only posted when they had something usefull to contribute.
I only sporadically visited the Off-Topic Forum because of its constant quarrelling and rather superficial contents. And the only thread I started there was removed within 5 minutes without explanation why! I am still angry about it, because I do rarely ever start a new thread, a practise that many should follow.

I know this positive atmosphere will never return here. Perhaps a CivIV Forum should be opened to give the intelligent exchange of ideas some opportunity again.

I want to thank Korn469, Raingoon, Yin26 -besides many others- for the good days. They made this Forum!

TCO is offline TCO
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I hope this remark is meant ironically.

In my opinion, the hey-day of the CivIII Forums were the first months of 2000 when Korn469 and Raingoon were directing the composition of the EC3 WishList and Yin26 was still the moderator of this Forum. Discussion was both intelligent and generally polite. Posters were usually friendly and supportive and generally only posted when they had something usefull to contribute.
I only sporadically visited the Off-Topic Forum because of its constant quarrelling and rather superficial contents. And the only thread I started there was removed within 5 minutes without explanation why! I am still angry about it, because I do rarely ever start a new thread, a practise that many should follow.

I know this positive atmosphere will never return here. Perhaps a CivIV Forum should be opened to give the intelligent exchange of ideas some opportunity again.

I want to thank Korn469, Raingoon, Yin26 -besides many others- for the good days. They made this Forum!



Yeah..pre-boards tend to be like that. The ultra-early Firaxis boards (when they were branching threads) were like that.

Give the OT a chance. We grow on you. Pick your threads...and you will find some cool people to talk to. Oh and the lost thread thing...please don't be sensative about it. There's a lot of carnage and maybe a little more force displayed over there. Think of it as a sign of your manhood to get a thread booted every now and then...

KrazyHorse is offline KrazyHorse
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Yeah. Your first closed or deleted thread is like your Bar Mitzvah.

adaMada is offline adaMada
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Mar 2000
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Damn n00bs.

IMO, anybody < warlord should only speak when spoken to


lol, great idea, Zanzin, great idea .

-- adaMada

EDIT: If anyone doesn't get why I'm laughing here, it has nothing to do with newbies. Good one, Zanzin .

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smellymummy is offline smellymummy
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Aug 1999
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don't confuse posting rank with new people. I've been coming here for a long time for my civ-information-fix and only recently has my rank gone up....

The Eliminator is offline The Eliminator
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Nov 2001
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I'm a long time visitor to the forums, long before the merge, and long before most of you "veterans." Only recently was I forced to get a login because the increase in traffic blocked visitors from checking out the threads.

I can tell you that you're right, most of the "newbies" won't stick around for much longer because you guys bore them to death with your silly "holier than thou" posts.

Most of you guys who ***** about the newbies haven't ever posted a decent thread, at least nothing educational, informative, or interesting. I usually don't even bother with threads that I know are asking for flames, but I think this is getting a little silly.

I'm sure a majority of the people buying shirts from Apolyton are newbies and not you el cheapos who *refuse* to shell out 40 bucks for a decent strat game. Your newbies are the lifeblood of this website.

If new people stopped joining and posting, this forum would degrade even more than it has in the last year; as it would consist of the usual ship of fools who are content with polishing each other's knobs.

Nemesis of the North is offline Nemesis of the North
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Mar 2001
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I agree with you, Eliminator. Seems I'm not the only one to walk quietly in the doors. I have no idea how long I have watched these boards, before I even bothered to register. I'm still a settler, but does post rank have anything to do with being a newbie?

Just asking, what is defined as a newbie?

Nem

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I think most of the people on here, who were complaining about newbies were, um... kidding . Except maybe the first post, which made a valid point (this fourm would be more useful if everyone posted everything in the right places), I think when it got to the general slam-a-newbie everyone was joaking. I hope they were, anyway, since that's what it sounded like to me , and it's a pretty stupid thing to complain about if they weren't (we all were once), so...

-- adaMada

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Next we're gonna have to teach 'em to walk, too.

Hey! New members! Visit the Off-Topic Forum. Don't forget to start a "Hi! I'm new" thread so we can welcome you properly. Ignore the jerks here. We're much friendlier in the OT.


bad horse! baaaaaaaad horse!

hey, there's even a thread in the ot right now just for welcoming new civ3 users.


oh, and for Eliminator

miloII is offline miloII
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Nov 2001
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What are you talking about the game is still new; so we are all still newbie's

TCO is offline TCO
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I agree with you, Eliminator. Seems I'm not the only one to walk quietly in the doors. I have no idea how long I have watched these boards, before I even bothered to register. I'm still a settler, but does post rank have anything to do with being a newbie?

Just asking, what is defined as a newbie?

Nem


A newbie in this context is a person new to Apolyton. Don't get your panties in a bunch worrying if we are talking about your computer/life/civ inexperience. People we call newbies = people new to the boards.

(That you have to ask...is SO newbie! )

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Yeah. Your first closed or deleted thread is like your Bar Mitzvah.


I'm kinda ignorant of Jewish culture...but is that when they clip your thingie? Nice analogy, Kitty!

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One thing I have to say ... people seem to come to forums for two things: information, and as a social substitute.

Most "newbies" are here for information about the game. That is why they were not here before the game.

People who complain loudly about newbies are probably here more for social substitute. Otherwise they would not be so emotional.

More people does mean more redundant, FAQ type posts. It is really not that hard to avoid those and find the good info.

But the chance to bash ppl and claim some kind of "superiority" due to lots of posts ... that is gold to someone needing a social substitute.

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Am I a newbie?




quote:
A newbie in this context is a person new to Apolyton. Don't get your panties in a bunch worrying if we are talking about your computer/life/civ inexperience. People we call newbies = people new to the boards.


I.E. - How new is a newbie?

hehe, thanx!

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Well, timeline, you are not a newbie to me- I define a newbie as someone who is not remembered by a King or Emperor. If the poster is unknown, then the poster is a newbie.

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I'm kinda ignorant of Jewish culture...but is that when they clip your thingie? Nice analogy, Kitty!


No, not -- quite . The Bar Mitzvah is the comming of age (when you turn 13). Induction to the church, you're an adult now, whoopie, etc. For future reference, though, Bar Mitzvah's tend to be very long and very boring (to someone who's in the audience, anyway ).

-- adaMada

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Okay, I've changed my mind - all newbies should stay on this forum.

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Woah! woah! we have a new elitist here

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I'm a long time visitor to the forums, long before the merge, and long before most of you "veterans." Only recently was I forced to get a login because the increase in traffic blocked visitors from checking out the threads.

Most of you guys who ***** about the newbies haven't ever posted a decent thread, at least nothing educational, informative, or interesting. I usually don't even bother with threads that I know are asking for flames, but I think this is getting a little silly.


Perhaps you are not looking close enough- you certainly have NOT CONTRIBUITED ANYTHING TO THIS BOARD- please don't complain if you are worse than people who post here and try to help, or try to have fun.

(Oh yes, and P.S. AH likes to get people angry at him- he likes to troll )
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I'm sure a majority of the people buying shirts from Apolyton are newbies and not you el cheapos who *refuse* to shell out 40 bucks for a decent strat game. Your newbies are the lifeblood of this website.

Yes, probably- Civ III is annoying, who wants to upgrade to a pentium III- I for one am not going to upgrade for 1 game!
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If new people stopped joining and posting, this forum would degrade even more than it has in the last year; as it would consist of the usual ship of fools who are content with polishing each other's knobs.


Probably- but you yourself is not helping this- you never registered "until you had to" and yet you claim you are better than everyone- okay, here is an oldies question- who was the third person to register on the boards... I will accept 2 answers, either may be correct.

 
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