19-11-2001 03:44									#61
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud okay, here is an oldies question- who was the third person to register on the boards... I will accept 2 answers, either may be correct.

damn historian/nerd no one here knows that

	19-11-2001 07:49									#62
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How many guesses do I get?

First I would guess Ming . . .

And if it's not him I would have to guess . . . Alexander's Horse . . . ?

	19-11-2001 08:40									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline Am I a newbie? I.E. - How new is a newbie? hehe, thanx!

You're not. I don't have an exact definition. But people who don't even understand what newbie refers to fit there.

Pretty much people here in the last month or 2. (normally there would be a longer break-in period, but there's nothing like a newer newbie to make an old newbie look like a vet.)

	19-11-2001 08:46									#64
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	19-11-2001 08:50									#65
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quote: Originally posted by nato One thing I have to say ... people seem to come to forums for two things: information, and as a social substitute. Most "newbies" are here for information about the game. That is why they were not here before the game. People who complain loudly about newbies are probably here more for social substitute. Otherwise they would not be so emotional. More people does mean more redundant, FAQ type posts. It is really not that hard to avoid those and find the good info. But the chance to bash ppl and claim some kind of "superiority" due to lots of posts ... that is gold to someone needing a social substitute.

You don't need to kiss anybody's ass cause they've been here longer. But if your attitude is "**** it, I don't care if it bothers people when I post the exact same topic as is already on page 1" (as currently the case) than you are rude and should expect to get **** on.

	19-11-2001 08:53									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline How many guesses do I get? First I would guess Ming . . . And if it's not him I would have to guess . . . Alexander's Horse . . . ?

ha, AH is a newbie.

	19-11-2001 08:53									#67
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seems to me we have had a mad rush of new people to the site, doesnt mean they new to civ so we shouldnt treat them as such, lets all show respect and let them fill this worthless area with their posts, I mean till Civ 3 MP is released who cares!!

	19-11-2001 09:55									#68
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Well, I'm not really sure what is going on with this board. I've found some useful information, and I've bumped into some incredible stupidity. If someone decides not to reply to something posted by a "newbie" on the grounds of him/her being a new to "their" board, then this board would be pretty much worthless. I haven't really seen MUCH of that yet, and hopefully what I have seen of that behavior limited to a bunch of dorks who get some sort of gratification from having spent more time than anyone else on a message board. For my fellow newbies, if you do run into this silly situation, just remember that while the cat who is pulling rank on you may feel good for snubbing you, IRL you have been dating, working, and having social interactions not limited to words on a screen, free porn sites, a jar of hand lotion, and a pile of "used" kleenex.

(disclaimer: MOST of the above post was intended to amuse. If you were offended, feel misrepresented, or are angry because it was a "bit too close to home", please accept my apologies.)

	19-11-2001 10:08									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo ha, AH is a newbie.

Then why is everyone shown as joining in 1969? AH is listed as 1969 . . . so are you . . .

Yes, I know that's a newbie question , but hey!, ya gotta learn somewhere . . .

I didn't think they even had internet in 1969 . . . . . .


P.S. I am only 19 years old so needless to say I was not around at that time to see what was going on . . .

	19-11-2001 11:08									#70
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quote: Then why is everyone shown as joining in 1969?

Before feb 15, 1999, apolyton had no script to keep track of when you registered. on feb 15 99, that script was added to apolyton. while we still used UBB, anyone from before that's registration date was listed as b. 2-15-99. then, when we switched to vbb, mark and dan never added that b. 2-15-99 line to the script, so those who registered before that date are listed as having what presumably is the default date for the vbb forums. it's listed as either dec 31st 1969 or jan 1st 1970, depending on which time zone that you live in/have chosen to display under your preferences.

hope that helps

*whispers* come to the OT...come to the OT...

	19-11-2001 11:37									#71
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quote: Originally posted by connorkimbro *whispers* come to the OT...come to the OT...

Resist the temptation, Resist !!!!!

	19-11-2001 16:11									#72
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quote: *whispers* come to the OT...come to the OT...

yeah, let them post their repeating questions all over the forums !
SMAC forums can be turned into a civ3 hell, the CtP forums can..... the apolyton forums !

the newbies take it over !
And we have no resources to fight them

	19-11-2001 16:55									#73
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy yeah, let them post their repeating questions all over the forums ! SMAC forums can be turned into a civ3 hell, the CtP forums can..... the apolyton forums ! the newbies take it over ! And we have no resources to fight them

Bah, let them come. Newbies are cosy

And you should come to the OT, and annoy the hell out of everyone by making "Hello I'm new" threads and asking about what a DL is

	19-11-2001 18:52									#74
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Newbies can be awful and cause such a mess. But they're the ones who ask all the questions that cause lauhgter among the rest of the community. They're like buskers of ACS. Entertainment for the veterans.

But I can understand Alex and his horse that newbies can be anoying too.

	19-11-2001 19:43									#75
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Having all these new guys around just means that were growing. (a good thing) And I think that stupid questions don't exist, just people who make stupid judgmental statements. (wait, I just may have made one) Any ways, some of the dumbest stuff I've read is from the veteran spamers "LOOK AT ME I'M AN EMPEROR!" who follow Stalin's ideal "Quantity has a quality all it's own"

P.S. hehehe, Flame away boys

	19-11-2001 19:55									#76
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quote: some of the dumbest stuff I've read is from the veteran spamers "LOOK AT ME I'M AN EMPEROR!"

who came first with the idea that being a vet or being a newbie depends on your postcount ??

It depends on your join date !
But people that joined may 1999 but still are a settler deserve the 'newbie' title as well imho.

We should discuss this topic.
For how long is someone concidered to be a newbie ?
Untill 1 year 'old'
Until 1/2 year 'old'
settlers or one year 'old'
settlers or 1/2 year 'old'
chief......

what do you (vets) think ?

	19-11-2001 20:32									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline Then why is everyone shown as joining in 1969? AH is listed as 1969 . . . so are you . . . Yes, I know that's a newbie question , but hey!, ya gotta learn somewhere . . . I didn't think they even had internet in 1969 . . . . . . P.S. I am only 19 years old so needless to say I was not around at that time to see what was going on . . .

The site started in July 1998. (There were predecessor sites going back to 96, too.) Because of UBB/vBB quirks, everybody who's an old-timer (before begginning 1999 has an unkonwon start date and is listed as 1969/1970 because that's the "beggining of time" for computer databases.

AH is not a real 1969er. He used to have a MAR or APR 1999 start tag, but got it changed when he had his profile rebuilt after a database glitch.

	19-11-2001 20:50									#78
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Thnx for the info guys . . .

	19-11-2001 21:05									#79
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After our self-proclaimed never-registered "veteran" answers- I'll tell you the right answer, Timeline

And yes, both of the people who I will accept still post here- and it is not miing.

I have nothing against newbies- but our "selfproclaimed veteran" I believe, is a liar- unless, of course, he can answer the question.

Oh and AH registered somewhere May 1999 or something, I'd have to look at my archives to answer that.

	19-11-2001 21:09									#80
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First forumjack attempt in apolyton history! Notorious OT spammers occupy Civ3 General!

	19-11-2001 21:35									#81
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I don't know who the answer is, but I know I was there in the very beginning days. I followed a link from the Universe site.

remember Mr. Mantequilla and Jesse?

	19-11-2001 22:16									#82
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I heard that Yin26 was once a moderator here at apolyton. Anyone reason why he isn't doing it anymore? Did he step down?

	19-11-2001 22:33									#83
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I have been trying to get these last posts out of the way, in order to reach my kingship... I don't want to be lumped in with this latest Newbie Blitz.

-FMK.

	19-11-2001 23:19									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline I heard that Yin26 was once a moderator here at apolyton. Anyone reason why he isn't doing it anymore? Did he step down?

He clashed with Mark.

	19-11-2001 23:25									#85
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Anyway, if this is newbie hell, can we torment newbies?

*pokes newbies with a trident*

	19-11-2001 23:56									#86
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Oh brother, please tell me you're kidding DarkCloud... If you are spending most of your time going though your Apolyton Forum "Archives" when do you have time to play the game?

Perhaps you should go back a few posts and read sachmo71's entry; sounds like you to a tee!

hahahahahahahahahah oh man! "Who are the first two people to register?" hahahahahah grow up!

	20-11-2001 00:06									#87
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Shouldn't we, veterans that should have a personal avatar, get our own VIP lobby, were we could have private discussions without disturbing newbies and visitors?

Grrrr... there just is too many settlers around here asking wicked questions. *knocks down two newbies with his Celtic sword*

	20-11-2001 05:38									#88
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*yawn* I do more service to Apolyton's community base by posting here than playing the game.

I truly doubt you are an 'oldie', here 'since the first days'- the correct answer is either Jay Bee or DarthVeda...

One more question that would be easily known by you without looking at archives (a newer question)- What was the Area25 Affair- (note: this is only for Eliminator)- or if that isn't your taste since it isn't CivIIIee- who runs the Civ II Strategy Library and how many of that person are there. (A simple question)
Also- who was the first entitled Deity on apolyton?

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If you can answer 2 of the above questions, I will allow that you MAY have been viewing the forums for about a year before.

You have a right to criticize anyone for 'contribuiting little to apolyton'- however, SINCE YOU HAVENT BEEN HERE VERY LONG you can't do that educatedly- any accusation you make is superflous.

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quote: remember Mr. Mantequilla and Jesse?

Sorry GP I'm not that old though I did frequent the Civ II Universe site from Dec 99- Feb 2000; and found the Apoly forums in March 2000- they were a different style then than they were in August 2000, when I finally registered- I couldn't even view threads unless I was registerd then- AH HA- Mr VETERAN- eliminator- that is where I get you- you couldn't see threads in early 2000

However, If you can prove me wrong- I will eat my words->

	20-11-2001 06:19									#89
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quote: Originally posted by GP AH is not a real 1969er. He used to have a MAR or APR 1999 start tag, but got it changed when he had his profile rebuilt after a database glitch.

Nah that isn't true GP - I didn't do anything about the start date and frankly I don't really care about it. I can't remember when I first showed up here but it was well over 2 years ago.

	20-11-2001 06:29									#90
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I've lurked here from the beginning and downloaded your scenarios and maps

If you think this is newbie hell you should see civ3 strategies section at civfanatics (if the forums aren't still down)...

P.S I don't think many apolytoners play civ, civ2, smac or civ3 they merely come here and WHINE!