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Wiglaf is offline Wiglaf
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Faggot, fags, pie, orgy, queer, hotdog, nuts, gay. Great.

By 2095 every word in the English language will be good for a more twisted sexual meaning. For example, thirty years ago, a statement like:

"Hey, want to go to a gay orgy with some fags?"

would be a perfectly acceptable, friendly and straight party invitation. (translated: Hey, want to go to a happy party with some cigarettes?) Now you wouldn't dream of saying something like that in the same situation. "Nuts to you!" is also gone for reasons best left unmentioned. The newer generations will never look at a hotdog - yes, a hotdog - as primarily a source of food. Eventually it'll just be something to giggle about, and it's all thanks to us - really.

Society truely has gone to immaturity hell.

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Atleast we aren't communicating with grunts anymore.

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Hotdog? Sorry, you've lost me... (I'm serious - I can guess what you're talking about but have never heard it used in that context).

As for "queer", "fag" and "faggot", you can thank homophobia for those I think. No doubt you'll try to shift the blame onto gays themselves...

"Nuts to you" is about as inoffensive as they come.

Are you drunk?

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You are an idiot.

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quote:
"Nuts to you" is about as inoffensive as they come.


It's an American thing, I guess.

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As for "queer", "fag" and "faggot", you can thank homophobia for those I think. No doubt you'll try to shift the blame onto gays themselves...


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You are an idiot.




you honestly think that in twenty years, kids will say "nuts to you" or "I love to eat big hotdogs"? of course not.

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you honestly think that in twenty years, kids will say "nuts to you" or "I love to eat big hotdogs"? of course not.


I don't care if they do or not. Why should you?

Do you have some deep inner urge to ask me to attend a gay orgy with some fags? Would you like to tell me about your lunch of a really fat juicy hotdog and pie for dessert?

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I love to eat big hotdogs


You mean kids say that now (regardless of sexual connotations?

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Didn't think so. Next!

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when I was in elementary school. Dunno about you, but people I know seem to have grown out of finding whacked interpretations of normal sentences.

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"Hey, want to go to a gay orgy with some fags?" would be a perfectly acceptable, friendly and straight party invitation. (translated: Hey, want to go to a happy party with some cigarettes?)


When did "party" mean "orgy"?

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Spanish is evolving in the opposite direction.

For example "paja" has the asception "to masturbate". Now it's just widely used to describe a lazy person (a "pajero")

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Hear, hear Ramo...

Don't you think that's a rather odd sentence anyway?

Certainly here, if you said "fag" people would think cigarette anyway.

The only person with a twisted mind is Wiglaf.

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quote:
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You are an idiot.


Well we are talking about someone who thinks that a Hotdog is a 'primary food source'!



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I'm tired of those disgusting faggots that come through my checkout at Tesco.

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when I was in elementary school. Dunno about you, but people I know seem to have grown out of finding whacked interpretations of normal sentences.


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Actually, it's a valid point if you'd just get by your usual pigheaded liberal, non-american and potentially communist attempts to sway me from a budding and very important issue in my country that plagues youths and elderly alike.

It's possible this is the work of a spy or a group of them. Really, check the trend. When did homophobia begin to take this form? When did slang of this nature begin? Trace that back to the immigration statistics from communist countries (esp. castro's palace) in the years between 1979-1985 and you've got yourself a winner.

How many movie execs aren't citizens of any country but Cuba or China? How many flicks or TV shows use this sort of destructive language to society? I can think of several that defame ordinary objects in a sexual way off the top of my head: The West Wing, The Green Mile, Primary Colors, or even the record setting Harry Potter. Check the websites using the find command or visually eye some logos. My theory holds either way.

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You mean kids say that now (regardless of sexual connotations)?


In theory, if they did, it wouldn't be welcomed. Really, if some kid came into your house and said that, you'd probably get upset too. Think for a second: why is that? how did that feeling come about?

free thinking is the essential key to everything, after all.

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It's a communist conspiracy!

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We must not allow a mine shaft gap!

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Ok keep going I see a deep thought emerging.

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Go for it.

I believe that I am now completely correct, after reading the information I mentioned earlier.

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I still want to hear when "orgy" was last used to mean "party"...

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What bunch of Liberals.

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Aren't you supposed to be protesting the war somewhere?

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Oh, you fun-loving bunch of fellows! I would like to love every one of you handymen!

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Oh Stefu! I'd love you to use your plumber's helper to unclog my pipes.

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Aren't you supposed to be protesting the war somewhere?


Stance on the war in Afghanistan has zero to do with political wing.

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Wiglaf,

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In theory, if they did, it wouldn't be welcomed. Really, if some kid came into your
house and said that, you'd probably get upset too. Think for a second: why is that?
how did that feeling come about?


I'd get upset that a kid said he quite liked hotdogs? You what?

Have you been smoking something?

Oh no, wait, I remember now, you're just a ****er.

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In 1970, if you said you'd like to go to a gay orgy with some fags, you'd get the same reaction as you'd get today. Even in 1950 (except for the "gay" part).

Gay = homosexual came from Hollywood, and was how homosexual movie people referred to themsevles. First public use of the term was in Bringing Up Baby, one of my all time favorite movies (Cary Grant . and Katherine Hepburn )

"Why are you wearing those clothes!?!" Susan's aunt asks of Cary Grant (who is wearing Susan's robe because his clothes are covered in mud from wrestling with a leopard—Baby—in a pond and she's had them sent into town to be cleaned so that he won't leave.)

He replies, "Because I've suddenly gone gay!"

Supposedly faggot is an insult referring to Nazi persecution of Gays, but since the etymology goes back to the 20s, it's obviously not true.

If you told someone you liked big weiners, you'd get an odd reaction 30 years ago, and people won't even say that today. (Can't imagine people will ever referr to hot dogs as anything but, though.)

Anyways, words change meanings in a living language. 200 years ago if you said a person was nice, you were saying they were sneaky. So lighten up, turkey.

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Wiglaf, if the worst you have to worry about is hearing naughty words and how the term 'hot dog' can have phallic connotations, you must have a very sheltered and cushy life indeed. I see far worse troubles in the world, and quite frankly, your middle class twitterings are vomitworthy.

If someone said he liked big hot dogs in my house, I wouldn't get even remotely upset (), but I'd go to up to my closet and get him a fisherman's friend to suck on.

Well thanks for the round of applause on me visiting this thread. As you all know, I like nothing better than a warm hand on my entrance



Innuendo? Pah! It is all quite innocent. In fact, today, I am feeling quite gay about it all!

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What homophobia? It's political correctness, you duf. IIRC it was all started by a Harvard professor named Fisher who had nothing to do on a sunny April Fool's morning, so he decided to pull a prank that got just a wee bit out of hand.

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Here, let me give you the dictionary definition for orgy:

or·gy (ôrj)
n. pl. or·gies
1. A revel involving unrestrained indulgence, especially sexual activity.
2. Uncontrolled or immoderate indulgence in an activity: an orgy of spending. See Synonyms at binge.
3. A secret rite in the cults of ancient Greek or Roman deities, typically involving frenzied singing, dancing, drinking, and sexual activity.

It has always been about sex.

 
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