06-02-2002 23:59									#1
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I guess 4 pages is enough so it's time to start a new one.

Ming, please feel free to close the other one to avoid confusion.

We saw a lot of new people post in thread XXXIII. So much for CIV III killing CIVII MP. We had a few new people join in the fun and a few more that should join soon. On behalf of our group, I welcome you all, and encourage other lurkers to post.

I'll be at Ming's on Friday, and home Saturday. Available both nights.

RAH

	07-02-2002 03:08									#2
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Hey RAH I've finally played my very 1st Civ3 game. Did you figured out science rate? One turn it says 'Navigation in 7 turns', next turn 'Navigation in 2 turns',turn after...i have Navigation. Is this a bug? Anyway...do you like a game? I do. But I do hate when my key 2xwino city get itself turned by stronger culture blah blah.

	07-02-2002 18:44									#3
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The amount of beakers needed for a tech is dependent on if you are the first one researching it. If another civ has the tech already it requires less. (you'll also see something similar in how much gold it will take to get another civ to trade it) For more complete details, check out the CIVIII strat forum.

I have always played religious civs and pop-rush temples in all my new cities to get the culture cranking right away. As a result, none of my cities have ever opted out to another civ. The overall culture of your civ has considerable impact on this. There is a real good thread in the CIVIII forum that discusses what impacts conversions in more detail than you would ever want to read.

I've played a few games and am already sufficiently bored with it.
Deity level is extremely difficult due to the head start the AI gets, but it can be won. I'm kinda just waiting for the MP version now. It needs considerable work for it to be playable in MP, IMHO. We'll see, I think there is some good potential.

Rich
The games I did play were kinda fun.
BUT CIVII MP STILL ROCKS>

	07-02-2002 19:22									#4
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how long it will take to play a game of Civ 3 with four other people?

And people complain about Civ 2 taking too long!

Hopefully they will see the light and get back to their roots.

I will be lurking about on Friday and Saturday nights, hope to see somebody (ANYBODY!) there...

	07-02-2002 20:12									#5
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i am probably going to yoga and a movie friday...throw some dinner in there too with a friend so, sat maybe the night for me...

send me a message though, you never know when a change of plans or position is in order

	07-02-2002 22:29									#6
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FF, yeah we'll see how long. They were talking about some type of modified simul. turns. We'll see. What time zone are you in and what are your available hours. we usually start around 7:30-8:00 US central time and play for about 5-6 hours. ICQ is best contact mode.

War4, getting to be quite the social butterfly on Fridays
I'll check for you anyway. It always worth checking on you since it's SOOOO much fun to have you in the game.

Rich

	07-02-2002 23:30									#7
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Hopefully I will be available at a reasonable time on Saturday if anybody that misses the early start is still looking for a game later.

And any of the new people that posted in the old thread should also post in this thread so we don't forget they are interested... since that other thread should be dropping fast soon

	08-02-2002 02:10									#8
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Friday night the wifey is out and not hassling me. Saturday night the wifey is back and my daughter has a 17th birthday party at the house. So I'll be on ICQ, count me in if there is an open chair.

	08-02-2002 03:40									#9
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I am normally on most evenings, and on weekends throughout the day...

I'm on EST (GMT-5), so I can stay up a little late (It's a weekend!).

If I show up late, I have no problem to join in...

Always a good challenge.

	08-02-2002 04:30									#10
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Well, I got my game updated to the latest Mac patch, but unfortunately, ICQ has been less kind. Download? No problem. Install? No problem. Register? BIG problem. And their tech support has been worthless. Planning to scrub them off my system and start fresh tonight.

I was hoping to make my debut Saturday, but that looks doubtful now. Oh well, I've waited this long...

See you offline Friday, Ming? (If this cold doesn't take hold too hard...)

-Jrabbit

	08-02-2002 05:41									#11
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit See you offline Friday, Ming? (If this cold doesn't take hold too hard...) -Jrabbit

Same time, same place... I hope you can make it. Let me know if you can't

	08-02-2002 06:09									#12
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Rich i am finally doing what i do best....its been along time recouvering from the past ....i am finally doing my stuff

and hey, you can live vicariously through me

	08-02-2002 23:37									#13
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever and hey, you can live vicariously through me

I have for quite a while now. And that was before the TFs.

But it's only logical that the beavers get more action then the ferrets.

Back to the topic.
I'll be around tonight

Rich

	09-02-2002 00:05									#14
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I'll be available as well,usual time.

Deity level isn't much difficult once I'd figured out how to catch up with AI expansion (2 Jaguar warriors - capture nearest AI capitol - rush build an archer in ex AI city - make peace - wait for AI to build next city - capture previous one - rush build an archer or two and so on.

What I don't understand is corruption and waste. Nothing helps. Not even courthouses or democracy. Besides my core cities all I can get from distant ones is one shield and one coin. Is that as it supposed to be on deity or this is a bug? I've tried everything but Forbidden palace because with one shield I have to wait 300 turns to build a damned thing in area where it could actually have its use.

	09-02-2002 03:09									#15
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I'd love to play but still have the same old ICQ problems.

If u need an extra player and anyone in the group has Yahoo IM - "bob_wland_2000" or AIM - "deitydude1", or u can drop in the zone for a sec and give me the IP I'll be available

	09-02-2002 03:27									#16
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quote: Originally posted by SmartFart Deity level isn't much difficult once I'd figured out how to catch up with AI expansion (2 Jaguar warriors - capture nearest AI capitol - rush build an archer in ex AI city - make peace - wait for AI to build next city - capture previous one - rush build an archer or two and so on.

At deity, you have to be a bit careful with that strat. The AI starts with a stack of warriors. (8, I believe and an extra settler) So depending on where they are when you declare war, they could be all over you, and 2 units defending aren't enough.

Rich

	09-02-2002 06:32									#17
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My ICQ acting weird last month. I got messages,requests,etc...but it seems that my replies cannot went through.

Anyway...send me an IP when ready.

SF

	09-02-2002 07:58									#18
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Well, it took several hours and multiple downloads from ICQ and Apple, but I do believe I've done it!

-Jrabbit is at ICQ Number 150126521

Still don't know how it all fits together -- the game CD, the internet, ICQ, etc., so I guess I'll go hang with Ming and rah to get the basics.

Any how2 tips thrown my way gratefully accepted.

	09-02-2002 09:05									#19
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But tonight I have other business to attend to...

Looking forward to a game...

*shudders from a withdrawal tremor*

	09-02-2002 21:23									#20
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Again... for those that miss the early game, I hope to play tonight.

Hopefully, I will be available around 10 pm cst or so...


Oh... and as my standard tradition. I wanted to post my 15,000 post in the thread that really matters

Keep on Civin'

	09-02-2002 22:11									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Again... for those that miss the early game, I hope to play tonight. Hopefully, I will be available around 10 pm cst or so... Oh... and as my standard tradition. I wanted to post my 15,000 post in the thread that really matters Keep on Civin'

Ming that may or not be me....not sure when i am playing tonite....but if i miss the early game, by all means i will be around later to cross swords.....

as for you 15k post , yup couldn't agree more....

i still think of you when i see that phrase......


its become a quote and in reality they should have an apolyton tshirt with that slogan on it

	10-02-2002 00:01									#22
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I'm going to try to join the late game tonight. Assume you'll be hosting, Ming. I'll try to get online around 10pm CST. You'll probably need to _patiently_ walk me through procedures, since this is all so new to me.

Will check this board as well as ICQ mail prior to launch.

Gosh, how exciting...

	10-02-2002 02:51									#23
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If I see you on J-rabbit, I'll set you up...

Just ICQ me, and we can set up a game for practice.

	10-02-2002 02:57									#24
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ok its official...the beavers are in for the early game..sorry ming....so i will be on around 4pst 6cst and we will look from there i guess

	10-02-2002 04:38									#25
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blah blah....i would like to play on something else than dirt

am available

	10-02-2002 05:49									#26
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if there is an extra player here that didnt get into war4's 4 pm game...we need a sub for 7 player diplogame now for #1 country...icq me at 146706790 if anyone is interested

	10-02-2002 06:10									#27
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where are you sf?

	10-02-2002 09:27									#28
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Well.. it's after 10... (my time )
Anybody around that didn't make the early game?

	11-02-2002 03:08									#29
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Just wanted to post a public thanks to Ming for the walk-through game last night. Patiently walked me through (multiple) start-up etc, and put up with a couple hours of fairly boring play while offering some much needed hints.

Appreciate it, Ming!

Shooting for a return next Saturday...

	12-02-2002 18:47									#30
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If you need more practice Jrabbit, and have an hour here or there during the week, I'd be happy to walk through a few starts with you also. Just ICQ me if I'm on.

Rich