Apolyton Archive  |  Preserved copy of the Apolyton Civilization Site and its forums as they stood in September 2005. Read-only; nothing here can be posted to or replied to.  |  Forum index |  About this archive |  The 1998–2001 UBB forums
Today on Apolyton WARDELL INTERVIEW PROMO A.C.S. HISTORY CHAPTER 4 GET CIV4 /w FREE PLUS! A.C.S. PHOTO GALLERY GET A.O.M. V1.1
Apolyton Civilization Forums
main| civ2| civ3| civ4| smac| ctp2| ron| moo3| galciv| galciv2| alt| about|
ApolytonPLUS | register | search | faq | new posts | pm (-/-) | upload | members
hall of fame new! | civgroups | civgroups news | interviews | the column | radio | chat | directory | news | store | PLUS
Apolyton Civilization Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.0.3 Apolyton Civilization Forums > Miscellaneous > Archive > Civ2-Multiplaying-Archive > Setting up IP Games XXXIV
Show a Printable Version | Email This Page to Someone! | Receive updates to this thread | Report this to Apolyton news!

bottom of page
  
Author
Thread   
Pages (5): [ 1   2   3   4   5   ]
< Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
-Jrabbit is offline -Jrabbit
Emperor
of the Electronic Egyptians
Feb 2002
time: 23:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 00:18
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#91 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Ming --

Practice games as RAH suggests are a great idea, I agree, but I haven't figured out how to set up RAH Rules on the Mac. Is this a user-accessible change, or a mod pack? (Mac version also doesn't seem to have a World Map, which I gather is part of the PC MGE package.)

Again, I haven't had the game for long, so I might just be woefully ignorant on some basics here. Maybe you or rah can show me next time I'm by.

Cable modem has serious security issues, where a DSL is as safe as a standard modem. Since our business lives on the computer in question, that's important. But my biggest issue is my daughter and AOL, since it's the chat of choice for 8th-grade set.

rah is offline rah
Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason
Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 00:26
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#92 Report this post to a moderator
Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

With HG, it's really simple. Of course this is under the assumption that you had an eye towards trade when you placed your cities and that most of them are up to pop 3 already. With luxuries cranked to 50% and twenty cities, you can easily grow your pop from just over a million to 5 million quite quickly. By moving your workers to all trade squares, (oceans, rivers, roads, or trade specials) You can get most cities to size 8. Those that are on forests, hills or mountains that are not trade specials will stop at 6 or 7. Build a few aquaducts in your core cities can help them make it to 12, (a few trade routes are needed, and sometimes marketplaces.). For that city built on gold that's growing slow, send a settler or two to join the pop, once it's size three, it'll take off. And if you're sending that settler from an already celebrating city, it really doesn't cost much.

Berz's method is slower but can be effective. You will only be able to celebrate it one pop point at a time. Then the city will stop celebrating, until it grows another point. The trick is to get your entire civ in the same cycle so with a little good timing adjusting the tax rates, you can take advantage over the long haul. I do highly recommend that you practice this before using in a game. OCEANS are real helpful if trade specials aren't sufficient.

Markus just dominates using market, banks, and trade routes. If you don't find and jump on him early, it makes for a long night. He also just lays his cities in the optimal path for trade bonus (if connected by roads) to cruise up the tech tree. And then his superior forces will come a knockin.

Rich

ColdWizard is offline ColdWizard
King

Feb 2000
time: 00:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 00:44
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#93 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote:
Sorry but I don't know the Quoting function in vB.

one way is to click the "Quote" button on the reply screen (under the end of the "Post subject:" box.

another way is to learn vB code

and a third way is to click on the "Reply with qoute" button just above the post you want to quote (on the right end)

quote:
I'm an idiot

we're all idiots until we learn

DaveV is offline DaveV
King
USA - EDT (GMT-5)
Jan 1970
time: 00:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 01:07
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#94 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Jrabbit - I'd recommend this thread in the strategy forum for a lot of great discussion on early-to-mid game strategies. There are a lot of save games, and you get the chance to contrast several different players' styles. It's a single player, 1x1x game, so not everything is applicable to MP games, but the theory of fast growth and targeted research is always the same. My suggestion is to download the 4000BC save, play the game, then contrast your game with some of the save game files you'll find in the thread.

-Jrabbit is offline -Jrabbit
Emperor
of the Electronic Egyptians
Feb 2002
time: 23:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 01:09
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#95 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

"Reply with Quote"
Hmmm. Now what could that possibly mean????



**(shuffles off, beginning to suspect he's the missing village idiot)**

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 01:17 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#96 Report this post to a moderator
Put an end to popups!

quote:
Originally posted by -Jrabbit
"Reply with Quote"
Hmmm. Now what could that possibly mean????



**(shuffles off, beginning to suspect he's the missing village idiot)**


There is a reply with quote button right above a person's post.
As you can see... if you hit it... everything he posted is created in your new post...

Also, when you do this, you can see that you use:
[ QUOTE] [ /QUOTE] (minus the blank space after the bracket to start and end a quote... you can just copy and paste as needed

rah is offline rah
Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason
Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 01:26
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#97 Report this post to a moderator
Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote:
Originally posted by DaveV
Jrabbit - I'd recommend this thread in the strategy forum for a lot of great discussion on early-to-mid game strategies. There are a lot of save games, and you get the chance to contrast several different players' styles. It's a single player, 1x1x game, so not everything is applicable to MP games, but the theory of fast growth and targeted research is always the same. My suggestion is to download the 4000BC save, play the game, then contrast your game with some of the save game files you'll find in the thread.


While that might be a good primer for learning SP, it may teach some bad habits along with some good ones. My SP strats were really routine because you knew the AI could very very rarely ever disturb them. In MP, more flexibility is required. (you're not always gonna get HG) so you must familiarize your self with considerably more options and recognize when to use them. Granted the basics are the same, but an MP game is different. (which is why it's still fun)

Rich

Flatlander Fox is offline Flatlander Fox
Prince
Fort Living Room
Jul 2001
time: 06:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 04:35
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#98 Report this post to a moderator
Cheats and the like... Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Since ColdWizard found me by 3600bc, he HAAADDD to have been cheating... Can I be in gameleague now?




Anyway, I have been DUSTED the last two times I played, and after examining the save games (So nice with one session games) I have seen both strats above employed...

For me, it's all about the huts. If you don't get them, you get boy wonder (ColdWizard) at your door with two horsemen by 3000 B.C. The dangers are not nearly as great as the rewards, and you might luck out and find an opponent's empty city too. Both games I've played in, I have missed out on the opportunity to dominate my corner of the world because I was too slow out of the gate.
Plus, you can plan your cities better when you explore the surrounding areas, and also ultimately set your defenses, and find your annoying neighbors.

You probably knew all this stuff already, but I thought my loser's insight would be useful.

When you sit in front of your computer for 5 hours getting your a$$ kicked, you have a lot of time to think about what you have done wrong.

I should be around on Saturday this week, if you are in dire need.

-Jrabbit is offline -Jrabbit
Emperor
of the Electronic Egyptians
Feb 2002
time: 23:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 07:23
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#99 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I'm usually on the Ming schedule Saturdays (betw 9 and 10 CST) and look forward to getting a healthy butt-kicking in the name of learning. If I can avoid spending all day in sleep-inducing activities like shoveling snow and scraping windshields, I'm hoping to join you then.

Thanx for the insight, Flatlander.

War4ever is offline War4ever
Emperor
I live amongst the Red Sox Nation
Jan 1970
time: 21:17
Wink  Old Post 05-03-2002 07:30
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#100 Report this post to a moderator
Remove this text

quote:
Originally posted by rah


LOL, been there, done that. (usually after a FEW beers)

At least you didn't forgot to change which wonder you were building after buying up and build collosus instead of HG. LIKE SOME OF US DID. I was shocked that I still got HG later, but I had to sweat it out.

NOTE: while granted, your last two games were better and showed definite improvement, they were both far short of the runaway leader. MOI

RAH


hahaha all of which is moot b/c i wasn't in any of these games

rah is offline rah
Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason
Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 05-03-2002 18:51
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#101 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Good to see you Post.

Does this mean we will possibly see you in a game in the near future?

Hope you're taking care of everything.

Rich

-Jrabbit is offline -Jrabbit
Emperor
of the Electronic Egyptians
Feb 2002
time: 23:17
  Old Post 06-03-2002 01:16
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#102 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote:
Originally posted by rah
With HG, it's really simple. Of course this is under the assumption that you had an eye towards trade when you placed your cities and that most of them are up to pop 3 already. With luxuries cranked to 50% and twenty cities, you can easily grow your pop from just over a million to 5 million quite quickly.
(snip)
For that city built on gold that's growing slow, send a settler or two to join the pop, once it's size three, it'll take off. And if you're sending that settler from an already celebrating city, it really doesn't cost much.


RAH -- I totally don't understand the last statement. How does the mere presence of a settler in a city built on gold help it grow? What am I missing??



**(-Jrabbit does his idiot thing again...)**

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 06-03-2002 01:29 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#103 Report this post to a moderator
Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

quote:
Originally posted by -Jrabbit
RAH -- I totally don't understand the last statement. How does the mere presence of a settler in a city built on gold help it grow? What am I missing??

**(-Jrabbit does his idiot thing again...)**


Move a settler from a city that grows quick to the mountain city (which grows slow). When the settler gets in the city, use the "join city" command. The settler disbands, and adds a pop to the city.

-Jrabbit is offline -Jrabbit
Emperor
of the Electronic Egyptians
Feb 2002
time: 23:17
  Old Post 06-03-2002 01:48
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#104 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Really???

Never read about that trick anywhere. How did I miss it?

I thought the only way to save a starving city was with food caravans.

Thanx for yet another handy tip...!

rah is offline rah
Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason
Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 06-03-2002 02:21
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#105 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Yes, two settlers will boost it up to size three and allow you to start celebrating immediately. In 2x production, just by placing it on gold you should have enough trade arrows and food to keep it celebrating quite a bit. Especially if there's a little ocean around to help.

Rich
Sometimes after a few turns celebrating and pop used to create settlers starts to become meaningless. I'll send 3 settlers out to start a city so it can start celebrating on the second turn.

War4ever is offline War4ever
Emperor
I live amongst the Red Sox Nation
Jan 1970
time: 21:17
  Old Post 06-03-2002 05:53
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#106 Report this post to a moderator
Increase the size of your Attachments

yeah...i should be around friday night as i am poor......but i doubt i can make the early game on saturday...i am house hunting and that will take some time ..plus i have to pack..plus i need to get the TF's in of course all of this takes time....

plus i need to format my hard drive so i can use the other 38 gigs of space and i can't seem to make this work....

but i do have a fully operational computer so keep your fingers crossed

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 06-03-2002 06:07 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#107 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

quote:
Originally posted by War4ever
but i doubt i can make the early game on saturday...i am house hunting and that will take some time ..


Does that mean you will make the late game

And... it looks like we are going to start in about 15 minutes or so... anybody else around?

War4ever is offline War4ever
Emperor
I live amongst the Red Sox Nation
Jan 1970
time: 21:17
  Old Post 06-03-2002 08:49
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#108 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

yes ming i am hoping to make the latter game

we shall seee how the search goes!!!!

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 06-03-2002 10:51 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#109 Report this post to a moderator
Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

quote:
Originally posted by War4ever
yes ming i am hoping to make the latter game


Great... even if nobody else show, at least we can entertain each other... Maybe the game we played tonight...

WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU... I was good for many more hours

Oh well... we can continue it later this week (I'm almost always available after 930 CT, and maybe earlier)... if not, maybe Saturday would work. I was killing you on the PG... but it was MUCH CLOSER than that... it was fun. If you still show up tonight, I'm still here....

War4ever is offline War4ever
Emperor
I live amongst the Red Sox Nation
Jan 1970
time: 21:17
  Old Post 06-03-2002 19:56
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#110 Report this post to a moderator
Put an end to popups!

well the computer just shut off...then when i went to reboot (more than once) i kept getting the "operating system not found' message..

this of course doesn't surprise me as i have been fighting this for the last two weeks..... i have got her up and running right now, but i have no clue why after 12 reboots and such it came on in this mode...

i got one message which said it was bypassing my setup files

it seeems more stable when the power doesnt' get turned off...but as soon as it shuts down, either by me, aliens, or who knows what..it goes screwy.

anyways i hope to be around tonite to continue....

as for the pg...yes you are killing me on that map.....but thankfully i am a turn away from gunpowder and you just got it....

your twice my size but i have more cities finally .....hope to see you later buddy....

Brian Bergs is offline Brian Bergs
Chieftain
Minneapolis MN
Oct 2001
time: 23:17
  Old Post 08-03-2002 00:51
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#111 Report this post to a moderator
Snowy wifeless weekend Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

It looks to be a snowy, wifeless weekend. That bodes well for a round of Civ 2. I need to figure out how to get more sleep though, last Saturday night I damn near fell asleep on the stairs to the bedroom. Can't be age can it?

rah is offline rah
Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason
Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 08-03-2002 03:25
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#112 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Naw, experience tells me that older people need less sleep.

Rich

rah is offline rah
Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason
Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 08-03-2002 18:49
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#113 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton

TGIF. It's been a long hard week so I need to kick the crap out of someone. Of course in life, sometimes you're the kicker and sometimes you're the kickee. MP proves that routinely.

I'll be at Ming's at the normal time. (yes, I'll bring dinner)

I'd Like to start as early as possible.

Rich

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 08-03-2002 20:44 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#114 Report this post to a moderator
Tired of ads?

quote:
Originally posted by rah
I'll be at Ming's at the normal time. (yes, I'll bring dinner)

I'd Like to start as early as possible.

Rich


Feel free to stop by anytime after 6... I should be awake by then

Brian Bergs is offline Brian Bergs
Chieftain
Minneapolis MN
Oct 2001
time: 23:17
  Old Post 09-03-2002 01:03
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#115 Report this post to a moderator
TGIF Full PM-box? Change here!

It's been a tough week here too. I am looking forward to a game. Bad karma for the last two days. Just printed out a bunch of vendor checks and the old IBM check printer changed font in the middle of a check. No reason, no warning, it just changed. That's kind of the way the week has gone ... whine, whine, whine. Look for me on ICQ.

Gonna make a call to my friend Johnny Walker and have him meet me at the computer keyboard tonight.

ColdWizard is offline ColdWizard
King

Feb 2000
time: 00:17
  Old Post 09-03-2002 01:15
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#116 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

oh good, i'm not the only one having a bad week


probably won't make the game tonight though (*glances at teetering pile of work*), but at least i won't get kicked

SmartFart is offline SmartFart
King
Diamond
Mar 1999
time: 06:17
  Old Post 09-03-2002 03:43
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#117 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

quote:
Originally posted by rah
TGIF.
I'll be at Ming's at the normal time. (yes, I'll bring dinner)
Rich


I'll bring the bricks. (for a great wall...that's it)

War4ever is offline War4ever
Emperor
I live amongst the Red Sox Nation
Jan 1970
time: 21:17
  Old Post 09-03-2002 05:24
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#118 Report this post to a moderator
Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

ok i am home and this week has just been hell.....

i too am looking to kick something in the a$$...

so message me and let me know whats up

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:17
  Old Post 09-03-2002 06:07 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#119 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

RAH @ Mings, to lazy to logoff and back in.

ICQs sent to BB smart and war but only smart's went through.
bb and war4, hung, will reboot.

War4ever is offline War4ever
Emperor
I live amongst the Red Sox Nation
Jan 1970
time: 21:17
  Old Post 09-03-2002 06:34
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#120 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

quote:
Originally posted by Ming
war4, hung,


thanks for the compliment

but i have heard this all before

 
Pages (5): [ 1   2   3   4   5   ]
< Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:17.
Apolyton Time is 00:17.
    top of page
Rate This Thread:
archivepost
Forum Jump:
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 




Contact Us - Apolyton Civilization Site - Support Us!

Building a better Apolyton through better information. Click here and take our poll!
Non-US visitors, click here!

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.0.3
Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Page generated in 0.0621 seconds (92.21% PHP - 7.79% MySQL) with 31 queries
Page Loading Time:

Support Apolyton: Amazon USA | Amazon UK | Amazon DE | Amazon FR |
Support Apolyton and get FREE PLUS, Buy from Chips&Bits: Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition | Call to Power 2 | Civilization: The Boardgame | GURPS/ Alpha Centauri | Alpha Centauri | Civilization IV | Civilization III: Complete |


Front Page | Civilization IV | Civilization III | Civilization II | Call to Power II | Alpha Centauri | Master of Orion III
Rise of Nations | Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations II | Misc
Alt.Civs | Civ I | C:CtP I | About | News | Directory | Apolyton Store | Forums | Chat | Columns | Interviews | Newsletter
Scenario League | CSC | Clash of Civs | Spanish Site | CtP Maps | Cradle of Civ | WesW's Ctp1/2 Site | Civ3 Haven

apolyton.net | apolyton.com | civilization2.net | civilization3.net | civilization4.net | civilizationiv.info | calltopower.net | galciv.net | galciv2.net | moo3.net