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just wait a bit longer
Wiglaf is still arround
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000 time: 07:17
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Hmmm...
Do we have any active gays left here at all? Except red_jon?
And what happened to MrFun(IIRC)? I'm still sure he was a DL.
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Jon Miller
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I have seen starchild arround more recently then red jon
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where did you go?
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Caligastia
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I dont know what the pros are of being gay because Im not gay, but I think a big con is that they cant experience natural parenthood.
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devilmunchkin
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first circle of the inferno
Jul 2001 time: 05:17
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i was reading about sexual orientation today in my psychology book bvy David myers (in case anyone wants to check what i say and make sure i'm not blowin **** out my ass)....
it seems to me that even asking the question of the pros and cons of homosexuality is completely pointless since they are finding more and more evidence that homosexuality is not a choice, but a predetermined state...not any worse or better than heterosexuality. Certain cluster cells in the Brain's hypothalamus have been studied and shown that heterosexual males have larger clusters than do women or homosexual males (the book did not really discuss homosexual females). Also, straight males have a larger corpus callosum (the tissue that connects the left and right side of the brain) than do straight females and homo. males. NOw ask: is this a CAUSE of homosexuality or is it an EFFECT?
researchers are finding that it's both a cause and an effect. Basically, homosexual males have a brain anatomy like that of a woman. so what causes it to become that way? ALso found, is that homosexual males were exposes to identical hormone amounts that straight women were exposed to when there both were 2 to 5 month old fetus. BAsically, the prenatal condition of the person makes alot of difference on how the child turns out.
At this time, scientists are continuing to study genetic causes, but the book kinda hazed over that topic and just suggested that genes DID make a difference in the outcome of sexual orientation.
so, if it IS a biological effect, to a large extent, why even bother to debate.? it's pointless.

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Apr 1999 time: 13:17
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Osweld, you are quite right about the prevalence of homosexual behavior in animals, especially mammals. In fact, the higher you go on the intelligence scale, the more common same-sex sexual interaction becomes. So much for the argument that homosexual behavior is "unnatural".
quote: But, strictly homosexual behaviour is (as far as I am aware) very rare if not non-existant amongst animals. |
Actually there are examples. For instance, among black swans, which mate for life, some males choose other males. They will even raise young together. Some bighorn sheep and American buffalo also lead exclusively homosexual lives.
For more on the general topic check the archive for my thread "The Gay Birds, The Queer Bees". I summarized many examples (killer whales, grizzly bears, dolphins, chimps, etc) from an excellent book on the topic, "Biological Exuberance".
- mindseye
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