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Saint Marcus is offline Saint Marcus
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From cnn.com

Gallup poll: 9,924 adults in 9 muslim countries between december 2001 and januari 2002.

Opinion of the US:
22% Favorable
53% Unfavorable

Opinion of George W. Bush:
11% Favorable
58% Unfavorable

Did Arab groups carry out Sept.11th attacks:
18% Yes
61% No

September 11th attacks:
15% Morally justified
67% Morally unjustified

US military action in Afghanistan:
9% Morally justified
77% Morally unjustified

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I really don't think anyone would be surprised by these numbers. Did you??

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Did Arab groups carry out Sept.11th attacks:
18% Yes
61% No


That is impressive. From that I am tempted to conclude that 82% of muslims are uninformed. Sort of like doing "did auswitch happen" polls in germany.

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I think there was a thread on this, actually.

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Sometimes I'm wondering whether we should wipe out those ignorant bastards...

But again, the questions in the poll may be skewed and the purpose of the poll is to incite anti-islamic feelings in the US.

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Perhaps there is no conclusive evidence for them that Arab people did it. Media and all that. You can be sure that everyone wants to avoid responsibility. I mean japanese want to deny WWII atrocites that they have done accross Asia, Germans were not at first too willing to come to terms with Holocaust. That is normal reaction I think.

Even though it shows that most of them think that it is morally unjustifiable and that tells you that they are not for jihad, and will not want to fight and die If we don't make tham, what routing out of the "axis of evil" might change.

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Sometimes I'm wondering whether we should wipe out those ignorant bastards...


[silly troll]
Nah, it would take too long - America's far too big!
[/silly troll]

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I really don't think anyone would be surprised by these numbers. Did you??


Yes, I was surprised. For two reasons:

A. The majority of the Muslims don't believe arabs were behind the attacks.
B. That even American allies like Turkey and Kuwait are against the US. And those two countries will play a key role in taking down Sadam.

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Sometimes I'm wondering whether we should wipe out those ignorant bastards...


I hope you aren't serious about this.

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I hope you aren't serious about this.


No, I'm not serious here. But constant polls like this can have a similar effect on many Americans.

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But constant polls like this can have a similar effect on many Americans.


So how you think Muslims feel when Americans and Israelis are bombing their people? Won't that have more of an effect than a bunch of stupid polls?

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I was some what amused by the survey carried out in this weeks 'The Economist'. When people around the world (not exclusively Islamic) were asked to sum up the US in one word, the most popular response was 'terrorist'.

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I was some what amused by the survey carried out in this weeks 'The Economist'. When people around the world (not exclusively Islamic) were asked to sum up the US in one word, the most popular response was 'terrorist'.


I'd pick "ignorant" though.

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I was some what amused by the survey carried out in this weeks 'The Economist'. When people around the world (not exclusively Islamic) were asked to sum up the US in one word, the most popular response was 'terrorist'.



There is nothing amusing here.
It's just like the comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany. They use the rhetorics of the enemy, and they'll never realize that it's pointless.

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One of the problems I have with this poll, which I have a few... is that it just says Arabs, when asking who they think did it. Aren't Arabs only strictly descended from those in the Middle East? So, it wouldn't include residents of Asia Minor, North Africa, or Asia, unless their ancestors migrated.

The other big question is what were the exact questions.
"When did you stop beating your wife?"

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My guess is that if you asked Christian Africans or Buddhist Chinese similar questions, you'd get only slightly less shocking results. The issue isn't what the Muslim "street" thinks of us, it's what they do as a result of it which is disturbing.

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Poll: number of Americans who care how muslims view the US

47% responded - what are muslims.
29% cared, but not enough to really care.
22% agreed we should bomb them.

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Poll: number of Americans who care how muslims view the US

47% responded - what are muslims.
29% cared, but not enough to really care.
22% agreed we should bomb them.




very well put, couldn't have better pointed it out myself.

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And the other 2%?

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They're muslims.

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that's too motherfuking funny !!! !

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The USA street is much better informed than the Arab or Muslim strrt, but still woefully ignorant. Right now about the only veiw many USAians have or want of Muslim Arabs is that through a bomb sight. Such is war emotions for the less infromed in most cases, "bomb them all to hell and let God sort it out". The actual waging of war is, in most cases, much more considered.
We have a significant Muslim population in my area, but only a minority of it is meiddle eastern desent. The majority is Latin American descent.

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Sort of like doing "did auswitch happen" polls in germany.


For one, I'm sure that 'auswitch' never happened, whatever you're talking about

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70% of them believe arabs had nothing to do with the attacks.


You know what that is? Most of civilized world calls it Ignorance

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70% of them believe arabs had nothing to do with the attacks.
You know what that is? Most of civilized world calls it Ignorance


And some of the more bloodthisrty and vengefull among us call it
"Too stupid to live".

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Poll: number of Americans who care how muslims view the US

47% responded - what are muslims.
29% cared, but not enough to really care.
22% agreed we should bomb them.


How about if you ask american jews if they favor a palestinian state - you get the following:


" -- Fifty-three percent favor, and 39 percent oppose, the establishment of a Palestinian state."

per the American Jewish Committee.

I havent been able to find any surveys on general US opinion on muslims in general, but the above should serve as warning that reciprocity of hatred doesnt always exist, no matter how comforting it may be to think it does.

LOTM

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muslims hate the US because they are stupid people who are jealous of the US

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LOTM answer me this:

How did they find american jews to ask them in the first place?

Is there a database with the people's religion on it?

Just curious.

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LOTM answer me this:

How did they find american jews to ask them in the first place?
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Ask..

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Is there a database with the people's religion on it?
Just curious.


Yep... you could probably buy lists from any Jewish, Christian, or just about any organization...

But that's not needed either. It would probably be asked as one of the screening questions... Question one... ARE YOU JEWISH
If not... thank you very much for your time... click...

 
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