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first circle of the inferno
Jul 2001
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If your friend had any other motive other than trolling (here) or flaming (FFZ) he may have had a warmer welcome. |
how is that different from what you are doing???? he's presenting a serious thread .....
the likes of you and dino doc are trolling.
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Logical Realist
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Jan 2002
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It's not logical to base entire arguments off a single dictionary definition's interpretation of a word to jump to conclusions.
What are you taking in college, btw? |
Well dictionary.com is pretty good in regards to dictionaries, fair and up to date. And all dictionaries tend to be pretty uniform on these sorts of things anyways.
I don't have time to find every dictionary. Here I am generalizing on the 'a priori' assumption that all established dictionaries will be pretty similar.
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Nov 1999
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And I'm presenting a serious reply.
If he wants anyone to actually look at what he's saying, he's got to add substance to his posts rather than flood them with words, definitions, etc. that make the midnight reads snap off to la-la land.
If I was trolling I'd talk about his mental condition. |
You have I have yet to see it, as for the last part work it man check yourself in because you seem not to have a grasp on the reality of the situation. He is making a valid point. You are simply shooting down his methods. Substance you lack haroing you do...
Back to control freak... |
I'm a control freak because I (like 99% of the world) really hate dry, dictionary-semantic type arguments?
Blackice, why don't you do us all a favor and type your replies in Word, run the grammar checker, then post them here. It's bad enough already, the last thing I want to do is figure out what you're trying to say. Could you also summarize what his argument is? I think it'll be really interesting to see what you think his point is.
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Logical Realist
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California
Jan 2002
time: 21:18
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It's called burying a simplistic point in a mountain of irrelevent semantics. It only annoys thoughs that expected better from someone with the ambitious nom de plume of Logical Realist.
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I don't see what makes my points simplistic or irrelevant. If anything it is you who have posted two liner pseudorefutations that I'd call simplistic. I think the semantics are relevant in that it is important to establish what "generalizations" are, in order to avoid confusion. If we are speaking with two different definitions in mind...we will get nowhere. The steps are simple cases of logical deduction, and generalizations are recognized as valid in most logic texts. It really is one of those most basic of matters in these books.
BTW, for the person who asked: I am studying philosophy and psychology. Or was, not in this semester for reasons I'd rather not discuss now.
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Logical Realist
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California
Jan 2002
time: 21:18
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The point: To inform the general public. I have been in a debate before on those threads regarding whether or not generalizations can be made at all. The main criticism of my generalizing at all, consisted of people pointing to exceptions. Many went as far as to imply that generalizations cannot be made at all. I wished to discuss the point of generalizations exclusively. So that it can be given the focus and thought it deserves(not just get treated as a sub-topic). That is all. It seems to me that these criticism were mainly fueled by an misunderstanding of what a generalization is. To that end I defined what one is.
The point is thus mainly that generalizations can be accurate, and that exceptions don't disprove a given generalization.
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Meaning if it holds true 51 percent of the time....the generalizations is accurate. |
The simple fact of the matter is, a generalization WILL ALWAYS BE WRONG some of the time. You seem to want to give it 49% margin for error. I hope you make all your life decisions with only 51% certainty.
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blackice
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Canada where else...
Sep 2000
time: 00:18
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blackice: I really enjoy how you're aligning yourself here. You apparently don't even understand what the thread's about, and are positioning yourself just to make personal attacks against the usual suspects (namely me). I know you don't like me. I don't like you. Move on, post something somewhat insightful (maybe in English this time), then move out. |
 Well the control freak told me I will not agrue with you no I will just continue to make you look like the fool you are grow up man life is big...Move on, english notice how you contradict yourself on a regular basis? Anyone else see that?
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Blackice, why don't you do us all a favor and type your replies in Word, run the grammar checker, then post them here. It's bad enough already, the last thing I want to do is figure out what you're trying to say. Could you also summarize what his argument is? I think it'll be really interesting to see what you think his point is |
No it seems to annoy you only so I will continue. You mind control freaks are at best food for little people
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I'm a control freak because I (like 99% of the world) really hate dry, dictionary-semantic type arguments? |
No because you think and agrue all should agree with that...do you see it yet?
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Look, you posted an entire thread defining a "generalization." This is extremely boring material, LR. Your post begs the question, "what's the bloody point!?" |
If you have not got it yet why are you here? amazing speaking of attacking one just because..if you are not interested change the bloodly chanel Some people must be really hard up for action?
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te·di·ous (td-s)
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1. Tiresome by reason of length, slowness, or dullness; boring. See Synonyms at boring. |
Asher you learned this early and well passed with honors I bet
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hypocrite
\Hyp"o*crite\, n. [F., fr. L. hypocrita, Gr. ? one who plays a part on the stage, a dissembler, feigner. See Hypocrisy.] One who plays a part; especially, one who, for the purpose of winning approbation of favor, puts on a fair outside seeming; one who feigns to be other and better than he is; a false pretender to virtue or piety; one who simulates virtue or piety.
The hypocrite's hope shall perish. --Job viii. 13.
I dare swear he is no hypocrite, but prays from his heart. --Shak.
Syn: Deceiver; pretender; cheat. See Dissembler. |
There is one you can relate to Asher, you do it well...Example:
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The whole idea is simplistic, LR.
You're the type of person that likes the sound of his own voice. You use large words when smaller words are just as valid, you make long winded posts citing many sources clearly defining what you're talking about. People expect it's leading up to something, then you just stop. There's no real point to it, you're basically making an observation based upon definitions on whether generalizations are valid or not.
Which begs the question: What are you on? or... What is the point? |
I can not think of anyone that qualifies for this better than you...
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IMO, The thesis that generalizations can, in certain circumstances, be logically justified is simplistic (read: boring) due to the fact that you provided no real reason why such an obvious assertion is of any import. |
Cool so why are you resonding left hand tired?
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You didn't have the balls to do it here so I did it for you. |
Speaking of penil envy...
As we all should Kaak..
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devilmunchkin
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first circle of the inferno
Jul 2001
time: 05:18
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this is ****ing pathetic
this isn't an LR bashing thread. It's a serious debate. get off yourself and go ***** about it on ffz....or cg..yeah..they already have an anti-LR thread there.
You *****ed when he didn't give a common ground of definitions to start from...now you ***** when he does. if all you want to do is relax and have fun...that's what cg is for. people like asher who currently don't want to think or like Kaak who are just carrying out pathetic personal vendettas.
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Kaak
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there is no personal vendetta. I think him a fool, and his posts continue to assure me that i'm right.
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