08-04-2002 11:29									#61
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You know, I'd never seen that done before.

	08-04-2002 11:47									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse You were just lucky I could get at you Mr "I defend my cities with warriors" Markusf

hehe...if your not being harassed the warrior defence is grand......

if you get caught....well serves you right....just don't get caught

	08-04-2002 12:13									#63
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He nearly did get caught - but the map suited his strat rather than mine. It was one of those worlds where there is a big continent split into 2 with a very narrow isthmus between. He went for the growth strat. I went for the stay in monarchy and overrun him strat. My troops got bottled on the isthmus - which of course I didn't know about. I changed to growth then but it was too late - game over for horsie - his tech lead was too great

I've wondered since what would have happened if I'd just kept in monarchy and swamped troops across the narrows...............

	08-04-2002 12:26									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse You know, I'd never seen that done before.

You where such an easy target i had to find the most humiliating ways of killing you

Here is the final save after AH begged for surrender.

	08-04-2002 12:32									#65
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quote: Originally posted by markusf You where such an easy target i had to find the most humiliating ways of killing you Here is the final save after AH begged for surrender.

ROTFLMAO

	08-04-2002 12:48									#66
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I am pleased to provide a Visual Record of AH's Skills

Attachment: lastsave.jpg
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	08-04-2002 12:59									#67
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Well that's not what you said at the time - you couldn't have got across that isthmus any more than I could and since I hadn't concentrated on naval techs I was a sitting duck. Game over.

I'm not embarassed about it. I gambled. I lost.

	09-04-2002 04:21									#68
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did you lose more boats than any other unit

	09-04-2002 07:37									#69
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Yeah... looks like a slaughter to me.

markusf... do you have the power graph, just so we can laugh some more at AH's excellent civ skills

	09-04-2002 07:41									#70
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever did you lose more boats than any other unit

Well if you look at it I lost a lot of boats. The rest were bombardment losses in coastal cities.

You'd have to look at the map to appreciate the situation. It was perfect for his growth strat because I couldn't get at him by land. So I ended up with a big army milling around uselessly. Then I conceded the game.

	09-04-2002 09:13									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Well if you look at it I lost a lot of boats. The rest were bombardment losses in coastal cities. You'd have to look at the map to appreciate the situation. It was perfect for his growth strat because I couldn't get at him by land. So I ended up with a big army milling around uselessly. Then I conceded the game.

growth strat? You don't know what your talking about LOLOL. I never even came close to using that, if i had i would destroyed you before 2000 bc.

AH's arguement is BS, as you can see i started in one of the most horrible spots imaginable. I was going to surrender but i figured i would never hear the end of that. AH had 5 cities before i even had my second city built. anyways AH had a massive lead on the pg for most of the game, but once i got a semi decent civ together it went downhill for him rather fast. I sunk all his ships, crushed his defences then landed troops and destroyed his roads so he couldn't steal tech, thats when he begged me to make the pain stop. And the really funny thing is i lost more units to barbs then i did to AH. Its as if all his units commited sucide when they saw me coming. Honestly the newbies at the zone gave me more of a challange

	09-04-2002 09:18									#73
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Yes you're right Markusf. I'm a crap player.

And I'm sure you'll have no trouble disposing of me in any future games

	09-04-2002 09:31									#74
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quote: Originally posted by markusf Honestly the newbies at the zone gave me more of a challange

Now that's an insult. If I wasn't laughing so hard, I might have to ban you for making personal insults

	09-04-2002 09:37									#75
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I'm getting bashed here, I'm bashing MTG on the OT, Ming is bashing Floyd at Counterglow.

Looks like another happy day online.

	09-04-2002 09:38									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Now that's an insult. If I wasn't laughing so hard, I might have to ban you for making personal insults

Imagine if he'd said the AI

	09-04-2002 09:40									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Now that's an insult. If I wasn't laughing so hard, I might have to ban you for making personal insults

Its not a insult if its true, i have never ever had that kind of kill ratio even against newbies....


I think the aussi's let him play in games for the comic relief

	09-04-2002 09:44									#78
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We'll see who has the last laugh

	09-04-2002 09:44									#79
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quote: Originally posted by markusf Its not a insult if its true, i have never ever had that kind of kill ratio even against newbies....

Good Point.

	09-04-2002 09:49									#80
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Yes and all those losses were to frigate bombardment of cities. And he never lost a frigate. Funny that

	09-04-2002 11:52									#81
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I wouldn't go there horse Besides the casualty list doesn't go down as far as frigates.
Its not like you were playing against ears of fright, nose of blight or whatever his name was...

	09-04-2002 11:58									#82
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Over 90% of those losses were to his frigates - how many did he lose? I had to evacuate my coastal cities. Its a relevant point.

And since I'm getting bashed quite cruelly and unfairly over 1 lousy game I'll take the debate wherever I damn well like.

The sad part is, I was happy to play him again. Not so sure if I'm going to have to put up with this crap every time I lose.

	09-04-2002 15:16									#83
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We want to see a rematch

I will support you dad, I think you can win.

This could be the start of a great Aussie V Canadian war.
We could make to loser have to play the yanks.

	09-04-2002 16:19									#84
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No son, its alright. I have to go and practice with the newbies at the Zone.

	09-04-2002 16:36									#85
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quote: Originally posted by markusf Its not a insult if its true, i have never ever had that kind of kill ratio even against newbies.... I think the aussi's let him play in games for the comic relief

Another truth is that Markus quits a game at a highly advanced stage after losing just one city... then uses the 'c' word to justify it. People who quickly call others less than honest are a bit suspect themselves, possibly.

Markus is a mouth and a quitter when the going gets too hot.

Then turns around and says there's no 'challange' (sic) anymore yet wasn't prepared to play out that Touney game. He was so scared of his superficial reputaion being tarnished.

Markus is a scalp of mine now.. He's never beaten me. I've led him or equalled him in all pg's in games I've played him, except one. I helped force him into retirement for 6 months, he he Yes, I guess Makeo is correct.... I am a sneaky manipulative de-facto war-monger But you must draw a distinction between that and respect (or lack of it , Makeo!) and respect for each other as people... (Shutup War!)


AH has NEVER quit a game and rarely concedes. He's a true player that plays out the game even when all looks lost and then turns things around. He appreciates deviousness and that is part of the game.

	09-04-2002 16:45									#86
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No deity, I'm done. Its like Dunkirk. Noone comes back from an ignominious defeat like that and wins.

	09-04-2002 18:23									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse No deity, I'm done. Its like Dunkirk. Noone comes back from an ignominious defeat like that and wins.

Uhhhh... didn't the Germans eventually lose the war

	09-04-2002 23:16									#88
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quote: Originally posted by deity Another truth is that Markus quits a game at a highly advanced stage after losing just one city... then uses the 'c' word to justify it. People who quickly call others less than honest are a bit suspect themselves, possibly. Markus is a mouth and a quitter when the going gets too hot. Then turns around and says there's no 'challange' (sic) anymore yet wasn't prepared to play out that Touney game. He was so scared of his superficial reputaion being tarnished. Markus is a scalp of mine now.. He's never beaten me. I've led him or equalled him in all pg's in games I've played him, except one. I helped force him into retirement for 6 months, he he Yes, I guess Makeo is correct.... I am a sneaky manipulative de-facto war-monger But you must draw a distinction between that and respect (or lack of it , Makeo!) and respect for each other as people... (Shutup War!) AH has NEVER quit a game and rarely concedes. He's a true player that plays out the game even when all looks lost and then turns things around. He appreciates deviousness and that is part of the game.

Oh please, another thing i also forgot was your caravans could magically move over mountains hills and forests in one turn. You had something like 10 Alpine movement points for each caravan. Even after i told you to stop using the cheat you still did. With you in a game you have to post each and every single rule explicitly or you will just act like they don't exist.

	10-04-2002 02:35									#89
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This thread is getting interesting now, it would appear that some of the better players in the game feel the need to slag each other.

	10-04-2002 02:46									#90
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It gets more interesting son - markusf hasn't mentioned yet that I won our first game