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quote: Originally posted by EyesOfNight " I saw all the symptons of what had been described as cheatamatic effects - quick city screens opening, map jumping before trade discovered, etc." Talk about stupid. Those have nothing to do with a hex editor you idiot. If someone is hex editing the game you'll never know it unless you look at the saves. You just accused a guy of cheating without even the slightest bit of reason. And if I were him I would have left too seeing as how you're a complete rook.

I did not accuse. I asked a question based on advice written by respectable people in these forums. I don't know how hex stuff works and many others don't either. Is cheat-a-matic a hex editor? Are you saying there is no way you can detect any symptons 'during' play? If not, who posted those symptons and why?

Any other advice you can offer so that decent honest players can be vigilant against cheats?

quote: "AH didn't say it was King Level (what a wooss)" Considering experts play on King and the only people I know of that play deity are rookies like you, doesn't say much.

Yeah, I'm just a rookie, along with Markus, Nappy, Makeo, arii and smartfart. Not that I'm as good as them but we mostly prefer 1x1x deity level as the 'norm'... And we play proper Civ MP with more than two players, btw.

quote: "damn coulda been out exploring instead of leaving warriors at home!" Is that an excuse for your incredibly poor skills in this game? I'm sorry, but there is no amount of knowledge that could ever make you a better player.

Have you no sense of humour? LOL

quote: "I asked the question in King Chat. How else can you do it? You have to be direct about this sort of thing." Well if you were smart, and you're obviously not, you would have saved the game at regular intervals and then examined the save. However, you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed as is obvious by your statements. I hate stupid people, and you are definitely one of the dumbest I have ever met.

*the McEnroe syndrome* - those that strike the hardest become the bluntest.

quote: As for my name horse, it was "All my hate". I took it from a Korn song called All My Hate. You should listen to it some time, great song.

Nice little suck up to Horse to make you feel secure in your arguments...

And you lasted ONE turn in that game?

Pathetic. You had a chance to meet your maker and you quit.

	05-05-2002 10:07									#152
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quote: Originally posted by EyesOfNight Talk about stupid. Those have nothing to do with a hex editor you idiot. If someone is hex editing the game you'll never know it unless you look at the saves. You just accused a guy of cheating without even the slightest bit of reason. And if I were him I would have left too seeing as how you're a complete rook.

See? You should have asked an expert Deity

That game was a blast -not so much the gameplay but it was nice having drop ins like Eyes and Markusf; and we met some new players. The KC was hilarious.

	05-05-2002 10:15									#153
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sounds like fun, or at least DRAMATIC for a change

	05-05-2002 22:44									#154
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"Yeah, I'm just a rookie, along with Markus, Nappy, Makeo, arii and smartfart."

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you on that one 100%.

"Have you no sense of humour? LOL"

If that is your sense of humor then you are severly lacking in that department.

"Nice little suck up to Horse to make you feel secure in your arguments..."

I've never sucked up to anyone nor will I ever. That was one of the dumbest statements you've ever made. If you had learned to read you'd see I was simply correcting AH on his poor memory of my name.

"And you lasted ONE turn in that game?

Pathetic. You had a chance to meet your maker and you quit."

Excuse me, but it was 900BC when I joined that game and the most cities any of you had was 7. LOL What a bunch of ****ing idiots. I have that many by 3000BC usually. As for meeting my maker? lol This coming from the guy who play on deity. Deity is for those who don't know how to expand or do anything else so they play a level that will bring everyone down to the same level due to the restrictions placed on each player. It is obvious to me that are you clearly outmatched both in skill and in wits.

"Any other advice you can offer so that decent honest players can be vigilant against cheats?"

Sure. Learn how to think and rationalize properly and I would also suggest investing in a healthy dose of common sense. You sound like someone who is trying to sound like an intelligent and skilled player when you are obviously not either.

	06-05-2002 04:20									#155
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I don't know why But I love when Sean sounds off

Maybe its because I'm a troll

	06-05-2002 04:35									#156
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quote: Originally posted by EyesOfNight "Yeah, I'm just a rookie, along with Markus, Nappy, Makeo, arii and smartfart." Yeah, I'd have to agree with you on that one 100%.

You obviously don't play 'proper' Civ2 MULTI Player...

quote: "Have you no sense of humour? LOL" If that is your sense of humor then you are severly lacking in that department.

hmmmm

quote: "Nice little suck up to Horse to make you feel secure in your arguments..." I've never sucked up to anyone nor will I ever. That was one of the dumbest statements you've ever made. If you had learned to read you'd see I was simply correcting AH on his poor memory of my name.

You seem afraid of connecting with people. The slightest suggestion that you need security throws you into a spin.

quote: "And you lasted ONE turn in that game? Pathetic. You had a chance to meet your maker and you quit." Excuse me, but it was 900BC when I joined that game and the most cities any of you had was 7. LOL What a bunch of ****ing idiots. I have that many by 3000BC usually. As for meeting my maker? lol This coming from the guy who play on deity. Deity is for those who don't know how to expand or do anything else so they play a level that will bring everyone down to the same level due to the restrictions placed on each player. It is obvious to me that are you clearly outmatched both in skill and in wits.

You're just another quitter that suffers from the McEnroe syndrome.
If the settings and conditions don't suit, you bail. I doubt you've ever enjoyed the true civ game - just an extreme perfectionist that's gone off the rails.

quote: "Any other advice you can offer so that decent honest players can be vigilant against cheats?" Sure. Learn how to think and rationalize properly and I would also suggest investing in a healthy dose of common sense. You sound like someone who is trying to sound like an intelligent and skilled player when you are obviously not either.

Thanks for the 'intelligent' advice. You obviously see in others what you fear in yourself.

	06-05-2002 04:52									#157
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I happened to like John McEnroe's tantrums too

	06-05-2002 05:22									#158
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"You obviously don't play 'proper' Civ2 MULTI Player... "

Thanks for informing me...way to take it to me. YOU THE MAN!

"You seem afraid of connecting with people. The slightest suggestion that you need security throws you into a spin."

It's almost like you're trying to use other attacks people have used but you can't seem to follow through on them?

"You're just another quitter that suffers from the McEnroe syndrome."

Actually I throw my racquet far further than McEnroe ever did. Mine goes over the fence and into the trees. See throwing onto the court like McEnroe did is how a ***** throws the racquet. A true man throws it as high and far as he can. If you can get it stuck in the branches then you're a true man. And in tournaments it serves another purpose. It forces you to take a nice 1-2min breaking walking to retrieve your racquet. But the real reason you do it is because the girls go "oohhhh!! AHHH!!" when they see how far you can throw it. So I guess I need my own syndrome.

"If the settings and conditions don't suit, you bail. I doubt you've ever enjoyed the true civ game - just an extreme perfectionist that's gone off the rails."

This coming from the guy who plays only one setting and insists that this is the true form of civ. I play all settings except deity 1x1x, you on the other hand play only deity 1x1x.

"You obviously see in others what you fear in yourself."

Yes, I see your weakness, I see your stupidity, I am so thankful that I am not like you.

	06-05-2002 05:56									#159
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You didn't know he was a tennis brat too did you Deity

I did - Sean and I have talked tennis before.

Hey Sean, when you throw your racquet do you shout, "You CANNOT BE SERIOUS!" ?

I used to love that and it would be a nice little homage to John Mc

	06-05-2002 06:22									#160
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No mine is more like...FFFFUUUUUCKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	06-05-2002 06:28									#161
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Come on, you have to do a little tribute to Big John sometimes.

My take on all this is if you and Markusf put as much energy into your studies as you do into civ you go both really go places in life

	07-05-2002 21:14									#162
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Aaah, an enjoyable AH EYES exchange

Never having gone to the ZONE to play, I would ask one question,
What settings are the most prevelant?

RAH

	07-05-2002 21:24									#163
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king x2x2.....

did someone mention tennis? hehe huge tennis fan here too...

John was the king of tantrums....but i have seen Rios, Roddick, and a few others spill their guts more recently....

used to love watching connors/lendl/edberg/willander/john john/ Becker/ and co....actually sometimes Becker would go off on a rant thatwas quite entertaining as well

	07-05-2002 21:27									#164
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever king x2x2.....

That would explain why I have no desire to visit.


RAH
War4, you gonna be around this weekend?

	07-05-2002 21:38									#165
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hope so...was hoping to get a new computer before i played again....this thing is UNreliable to say the least.......

Rich you or Ming should know this.....there is a song that they play i think when trevor hoffman or some other closer in baseball comes on to the field.....it has a sci fi sound to it.....almost like a twinkling and then a deep sounding boom.....for the life of me i can't figure out who sings it...there are no words..i think maybe pink floyd or allan parsons project..... the song is totally space sounding....jeez my description is lousy.....its just one of those songs i cna't describe well but i hear it and can't remember the name

	07-05-2002 21:48									#166
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever Rich you or Ming should know this.....there is a song that they play i think when trevor hoffman or some other closer in baseball comes on to the field

Since they just recently played the cubs, I heard the song OFTEN ENOUGH

AC/DC's "Hell's Bells," is the song they play in SD when Hoffman comes in... is that the song you were thinking of?

	08-05-2002 02:32									#167
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Geeze War, good description. Could be almost anything. The twinkling then the boom.
That could also describe the Allen Parsons song they use to introduce the Chicago Bulls, and the Pheonex Suns.

But if it is the one for Trevor, then Ming hit it.

Rich

	08-05-2002 04:05									#168
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It's Allen Parsons project. But I can't remember the exact name of the piece.

They used to play it at Nebraska home football games when the team came out on the field. Back when I was in Nebraska .

Very cool stuff though, and really motivational.

	08-05-2002 05:04									#169
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"Sirius" by Alan Parsons Project better
known to some as "Introducing your Chicago Bulls" music

RAH
You can go to
http://poipoine.free.fr/poipoineus.php3?lien=music
and listen to it

	09-05-2002 23:14									#170
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THATS IT.....thankyou...its been troubling me for a few days...i told you it was sci fi........and how would you describe it anyways ??? lol even if it was a poor description

	10-05-2002 00:42									#171
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I wouldn't try to describe it, but as bad as your description was, I was still able to find it. I would have just called the the BULLs intro.

	10-05-2002 03:23									#172
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its the bulls intro to you in chicago and to others i am sure....but alan parsons didn't design the song for the bulls specifically

that all said we got it now didn't we

	10-05-2002 03:33									#173
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Yes we did.

But after 6 championships, IT's ours
And I never knew the name till you asked