07-04-2002 00:15									#1
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This is of quadressential importance: who started using the flag of Palestine and Israel?

I'm not talking about Siro, he always had his Israeli flag except for that unfortunate period of time (short one thankfully) where he put his own face as an avatar

Now MtG, the grand and venerated mod of this God - blessed and God - intended forums, is flying the Israeli colors.

Imran, a republican on the path to rehabilitation, has put the Palestinian flag on and it sure looks good.


However who started this?

I thought about having Arafat as my avatar but I find out I'm already far behind.

	07-04-2002 00:29									#2
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Israel!

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	07-04-2002 00:32									#3
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Well that settles it then

	07-04-2002 00:45									#4
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Grand and venerated and soon to be retired. (at least from the mod job or actively doing it)

Imran put his up in response to mine.

I put mine up because of the constant slamming of Israel by the same people who rationalize and excuse Palestinian terrorism and arab agression. This way, my Israeli friends here and elsewhere know that some people still stand by them.

Especially when we have three guys here (don't know if Yoav and Taurus post here at all anymore, and I don't know if Mark is beyond military service age) who are very close to service age in the IDF, and it may well be their asses on the line, and certainly a lot of their friends.

So I did it primarily for Siro, Dal and Eli, but not just them - all Israelis.

	07-04-2002 02:52									#6
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Grand and venerated and soon to be retired. (at least from the mod job or actively doing it)

What!?

Other than Bugs, EmperorTheFabulous, Loinburger, and a few others, you seem to be among the intelligent arguers here on Apolyton.

After you leave, Apolyton would probably degenerate even more, unless Bugs and Emperor participate as often as Loinburger does.

	07-04-2002 03:24									#7
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There, see my avatar. It may not look beautiful- but its my contribution to the "flag war" and I believe it states my stance perfectly

	07-04-2002 03:27									#8
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I've got tons of more Israel avatars if you want.

	07-04-2002 03:30									#9
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That might be appreciated if they could fill about half of a 80x80 screen, I would like Israel and Palestine either to border or to be on top of each other

thank you for offering

	07-04-2002 03:55									#10
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That could take a while, and it's 2 AM so tommorow.


My flag is my improvisation at a War flag.

The sign is of the IDF and the flag behind it is Israel's Navy / War flag.

I decided not to put the IDF flag since it's a bit ugly.

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quote: Originally posted by Eli Israel!

That style of painting has gone with the 50s...

	07-04-2002 03:59									#12
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Hey Siro, can you get me the 400 posts (or whatever number it is) I need to be able to have one of your custom avatars? Thanks in advance!

	07-04-2002 04:09									#13
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Drake - yeah, sure as soon as I'm made moderator

	07-04-2002 04:14									#14
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Ah, the Manx flag (the three legged one).

You know why that is the flag don't you? That is one of the mutants that was spawned on the Isle of Man, a result of the radioactive waste spewed out by Sellafield just across the water

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I've decided to follow MTG's lead.

I will display the Israel flag as my avatar for about a week, to show my support.

But then after a week or so, I will revert back to my traditional avatar.

	07-04-2002 04:43									#16
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And there's me thinking this pathetic flag-waving is the cause of the problem, erecting artificial barriers, crapping on other people to benefit oneself. It's ridiculous

Both sides have very valid points, but the balance of forces is very uneven. I find it quite nauseating to see Americans involved in this flag-waving too, an issue they have next to no involvement in. Isn't it time that the people of the region had self-determination?

	07-04-2002 04:45									#17
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quote: Imran, a republican on the path to rehabilitation, has put the Palestinian flag on and it sure looks good.

Damn straight it looks good!

MtG did do it first, and mine is in response to his. I don't like the fact that people believe that the Palestinian people should be oppressed and any attempt for a Palestinian state be destroyed (Arafat was thinking of declaring a Pal state unilaterally years ago, but was threatened with invasion).

My avatar will stay up until the Israeli colonial oppressors leave Palestine.

	07-04-2002 04:51									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Imran, a republican on the path to rehabilitation, has put the Palestinian flag on and it sure looks good. Damn straight it looks good! MtG did do it first, and mine is in response to his. I don't like the fact that people believe that the Palestinian people should be oppressed and any attempt for a Palestinian state be destroyed (Arafat was thinking of declaring a Pal state unilaterally years ago, but was threatened with invasion). My avatar will stay up until the Israeli colonial oppressors leave Palestine.

Well, you and I agree on one thing -- we both oppose oppression of Palestinians.

But if Palestinian terrorists wish to blend in with civilian Palestinians, that is not the fault of Israel.

And President Bush is being hypocritical of Israel's latest counter-attack against terrorists by saying that Israel should stop the offensives.

Should the United States have never taken an offensive against the terrorists in Afghanistan??

	07-04-2002 04:57									#19
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Flag Wars?

Take this!

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	07-04-2002 04:58									#20
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun But if Palestinian terrorists wish to blend in with civilian Palestinians, that is not the fault of Israel.

I don't agree. From the way I look at it, the Israeli state/military are acting like a bunch of thugs, and have done ever since the commencement of Sharon's leadership. When you corner an animal, it is going to fight back more viciously than ever. Israel's actions are throwing fuel on the fire, and is certainly not going to resolve the issue. Hence I have a great deal of sympathy for the Palestinian cause. Just a shame that so many innocent people are being killed in such a pathetic issue of land, one that needn't be so.

	07-04-2002 05:22									#23
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To protest this nationalistic nonsense, I elect to leave my avatar as it currently is.

	07-04-2002 05:25									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo To protest this nationalistic nonsense, I elect to leave my avatar as it currently is.

As I do mine.

	07-04-2002 05:40									#25
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Loinburger, your avatar is ugly.

	07-04-2002 05:49									#26
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Loinburger, your avatar is ugly.

I agree, my first one was cuter...

	07-04-2002 05:54									#27
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quote: As I do mine.

Who the hell is that guy, anyways?

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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Who the hell is that guy, anyways?

No clue. Got the picture off of bruteforcelogic.com, which seems to be down for the moment.

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MF: hmmmm --- some new posts
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EEEEKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

Runs away screaming and shouting curses at Loinburger.