13-04-2002 20:45									#1
	Congress spends quarter million to combat Goth culture in Missouri Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

$273,000 spent in the state of Senate appropriator Christopher "Kit" Bond (R-Missouri) at the Blue Springs Youth Outreach Unit for educational training in "combating Goth culture."



Okay, so what's so dangerous about Goths that the Feds need to get involved?

	13-04-2002 20:47									#2
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Link?

	13-04-2002 20:50									#3
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	13-04-2002 21:06									#5
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You might laugh now, but you won't when hordes of screaming bearded filthy Goths attack and plunder your city raping all the women with their small horses! I mean that they attack and plunder your city with their small horses raping all the women.

In any case, I was intrigued by this:

quote: "The problem is that you put 'technology' on something and people are mesmerized by it," says CAGW vice president David Williams. "That's one of the things they do with pork: Give it a really cool name, so how can you be against it?"

Well, is that really any worse than the regular budget critic practice - finding a program with a really silly name, so the typical reader would just think "Bah, the stupid things they're spending my money on" and move on, when thinking about it even a bit would result to seeing that hey, it looks stupid, but it actually is something useful and even necessary?

But, I agree, this Goth culture thing is just weird. And so is putting money to combatting it.

	13-04-2002 21:11									#6
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The new move, which is backed by many of Missouri's citizens, with include -

- Destruction of Goth literature and works or art.
- Goth camps
- Goth rehabilitation centres
- The public execution of Marylin Manson at 4pm in the village square

And Goth Trials. Anyone suspected of being a Goth will be dunked in the village well. Any suspects who drown will be released, any who survive will be burned.

God Bless You All.

	13-04-2002 21:15									#7
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quote: - The public execution of Marylin Manson at 4pm in the village square

Its not all bad then

	13-04-2002 21:15									#8
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon - The public execution of Marylin Manson at 4pm in the village square

That might be acceptable.

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This is crap. Whata waste.

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I like Marylin Manson.

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I agreed with Dinodoc yay!

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wow , you actually bothered to do all this photoshop dirty work ?

	13-04-2002 23:25									#14
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I cannot believe this crap. I am not Gothic, and I find Marilyn Mason to be too extreme in embracing Gothic culture -- not to mention that people call his screaming, signing.

But I do not understand why government officials cannot respect the Gothic culture by just letting it be.

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The only good goth is a punk goth

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	13-04-2002 23:44									#16
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quote: Gothic culture

You consider it a full-fledged culture? To me it just seems like a phase that some people don't have the good grace to grow up out of.

	14-04-2002 00:06									#17
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse quote: Gothic culture You consider it a full-fledged culture? To me it just seems like a phase that some people don't have the good grace to grow up out of.

But just because I do not understand something, does not mean that I am going to attack it or berate it.

If you understand Gothic culture for what it is, and then decided this is how you feel, that's cool.

	14-04-2002 00:20									#18
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Yes! Persecute the Goths!

Let's face it- they'd love it, wouldn't they?

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quote: But just because I do not understand something, does not mean that I am going to attack it or berate it. If you understand Gothic culture for what it is, and then decided this is how you feel, that's cool

I'm just using your remark as an excuse to berate it...

	14-04-2002 01:33									#20
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quote: I mean that they attack and plunder your city with their small horses raping all the women.

Their small horses were doing what to the women?!

	14-04-2002 01:35									#21
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That's right, ruin the joke, right, ruin the joke, right, right.

	14-04-2002 01:38									#22
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I am NOT ruining the joke.

Just dragging it out and kicking it a few times. That's all.

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I would think the Goths would rape the horses and make the women watch?

And I like Marylin Manson too .

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Couldn't open the link... [edit: doh, Pols roasted over pet pork?? )]

But if the thing with the goths is true...(I hope it isn't) and something like that happened here...

(luckily I know it can't happen)

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	14-04-2002 02:50									#25
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But I saw the Goths doing that when I played Civ3!!

	14-04-2002 03:02									#26
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Turn your backs on the Goths for one moment, and the next thing you know, they'll be sacking Rome!

BTW, Maralyn Manson makes damn fine music.

Crazy Republicans.

	14-04-2002 03:18									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Ade Couldn't open the link... [edit: doh, Pols roasted over pet pork?? )] But if the thing with the goths is true...(I hope it isn't) and something like that happened here... (luckily I know it can't happen)

There were a lot of things in human history that were carried out by other humans that no one thought could happen.

	14-04-2002 04:08									#28
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i'm goth.
you all know me.
my favorite musician is marilyn manson.
i'm already persecuted
and i go to private baptist university although i'm atheist.
in addition, no one has been able to clearly define goth either. is it dress? is it dress plus a belief? does it include wiccans? and what if the wiccans wear "normal" clothes? HOw do we separate it from punk? does it mean anyone who dies their hair black? but what about asians with naturally black hair?
there is no clear cut definition of goth.
i'm assuming there will be a judicial review of this law soon, as it violates scores of amendments.

and then:
would you persecute me???

	14-04-2002 04:11									#29
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only if you sacrificed puppies near me.

	14-04-2002 04:28									#30
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I'm not goth, I've never quite gotten into it.
I'm a metallist, though, and goth culture is somewhat close to my heart. This is why I get so mad every time I hear something like this. We all know how metal bands (and metal / goth / other subcultures) are constantly blamed for being evil, satanic, etc...

In Finland we have only one festival totally dedicated to metal music - Tuska ('Pain'). Of course, some religious (and other...) loonies are all the time preaching about it being evil - last year there were some people with banderolls saying "Satan has come to Helsinki!" outside the festival area... and there was one "document" (well, wasn't very documentary, some marginal media bullsh!t) labeling it as the "festival of blood, violence and evil".

In reality, Tuska has been arranged 4 times so far (5th this summer), and yet (to my knowledge) not a single crime of violence, crime against property or drug offense has been reported. And every year we've received praise from the local police for peaceful festivals. This is extraordinary. Well, I saw one act of violence there last year; Some loonie (one of the banderoll-people) threw a bucket of water on a metalhead who just happened to pass by. So much for the christian tolerance...