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	15-04-2002 16:25									#10
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it seems to me that if IG/QSI/PCPP/whoever wanted this to be online they would have done it themselves. and if QSI didnt exactly like this being availiable on a magazine cd in australia i'm sure they wouldnt like it being on the net either...

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quote: Originally posted by MarkG it seems to me that if IG/QSI/PCPP/whoever wanted this to be online they would have done it themselves. and if QSI didnt exactly like this being availiable on a magazine cd in australia i'm sure they wouldnt like it being on the net either...

Hmm.
I wonder what I have said to be EDITED.

	15-04-2002 16:58									#12
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nothing terrible, just a part of a discussion that shouldnt be here.

	15-04-2002 17:20									#13
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What have I said to be edited. All I've talked about is leagaly distributed software(the pre-alpha demo). We aren't talking about Warez or anthing. I didn't know this site was starting to get as bad as the Delphi forums.

But over there, they actually have a live thread discussing warez. (which I don't have anything to do with)

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quote: Originally posted by MarkG it seems to me that if IG/QSI/PCPP/whoever wanted this to be online they would have done it themselves.

And if you would have taken the time to actually read the avaliable posts on this subject before becoming a edit nazi. You would know that the agrement between PCPP and the software dist. states that "They" (PCPP) are not allowed to put the "Demo" on the web. "They" are only allowed to have it on thier Demo CD.

There is nothing illegal with an Ausie sending us the demo. IT'S NOT ILLEGAL.

GET A GRIP

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quote: Originally posted by MarkG nothing terrible, just a part of a discussion that shouldnt be here.

So we aren't allowed to discuss the Demo? I thought this thread was here to discuss the demo.

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this is more about QS'.... unhappiness of this certain build being distributed in any way as a "demo".

but if you want to talk about laws, i'm pretty sure PCPP's cd comes with a disclaimer that what you get if for your personal use only. this "demo" is not freeware. it's given to PCCP under some conditions and PCPP has distributed on their cd under some conditions as well.

	15-04-2002 17:35									#17
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discussing the "demo" is one thing. discussing the distribution of the "demo" over the net is another.

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quote: Originally posted by Jackal677 And if you would have taken the time to actually read the avaliable posts on this subject before becoming a edit nazi.

Hu-ho! Newbie calling edit nazi to the co-owner of the site isn't good!

But the funny part is that Mark deleted pages 1 and 2, and moved page 3 to 1.

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quote: Originally posted by Zealot But the funny part is that Mark deleted pages 1 and 2, and moved page 3 to 1.

i just separated the noise from the signal

	15-04-2002 23:36									#20
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Could someone please give the basic story from start to finish? [/timid newbie voice]

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your an emporer, not a newbie!

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quote: Originally posted by tishco your an emporer, not a newbie!

Hey, give the guy a slack, will you? He's trying to reach Deity someday!

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quote: quote: by Jackal677 quote: Originally posted by MarkG the "demo" is not anywhere on the net and it seems that the agreement was that it should not be distributed on the net. The agreement was that the magazine would not distribute on the net. There is nothing saying that the Buyers of the Mag can't. Before you start deleting peoples messages concerning us MOO3 fans trying to find the pre-alpha build demo. You might want to have some facts to back you up. This is a synopsis of what "Mark G" said this morning around 7am CST. I can't give you exact quotes because not only did he delete my messages, he also deleted his responses. I was expecting them still to be here when I got home from work. So I am going with the best of my memory. If I'm mistaken, (IMO, your fault for being delete happy) try correcting me "Mark G" instead of DELETING ME. "MARK G" was saying that "I'm sure there is an agreement, (somewhere in the magazine, i havn't seen it, or been told this, but I"M SURE THERE IS), that says the poeple that buy the magazine can't give it to anyone else". I'm just asking why he needs to delete our messages. When it's his opion vs. mine. Are you the DEMO Police? Are you American? Do you believe in free speach? Is my asking these questions going to get me banned? Just asking.

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1) as you can see your actual opinions on the matter have not been deleted
2) this is not simply my opinion against yours. you seem to ignore the fact that you are a guest on a site that i own. if i dont want something to exist on our forums, i can and will delete it. i may discuss about it openly, but i will delete it.
3) when you bring me a statement by QSI or IG that distributing this file on the net is ok, i will allow the discussion

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Markos...all this deleting makes it hard to follow for people who come int late.

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GP, the basic story is that the Australian branch of Infogames gave the Aussie magazine PC Powerplay the alpha version of MOO 3 on the condition that the magazine put the 'demo' on its next cover CD.

However, it apears that this release was not approved by Infogames management in the US, who for understandable reasons aren't amused with what has happened.

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GP, you might want to learn to read the news....

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you might also want to learn to control your trolladdiction....

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Case, thanks. Markos, it really was hard to follow.


Regarding my trolladdiction (seperate issue): I'm not perfect. Hopefully I can make people think every now and then...while having some clean fun.

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quote: Originally posted by MarkG you might also want to learn to control your trolladdiction....

Scuse me while I alert the FAA about the most recent extreme aviation hazard due to flying pigs.