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Urban Ranger is offline Urban Ranger
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I've just had a situation where I have been judged by someone who barely even knows me, which may cause me a lot of difficulties in the near future, so excuse me if my faith in my fellow man at the present moment isn't too high.


Have you just acquired a superior who doesn't like you?

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That's the latest in shrink-babble.

So, if you get mugged on the way in to work, and the guy decides for the hell of it to kick your face in, then in the hospital, you find out you're uninsured, because your business partner let the policy lapse while embezzling everything you've spent the last 15 years building up, and then you call home, and get a message from your wife telling you she's left you for another woman, and cleaned out your savings, but you can have the mortgage and the kids -

If you have any problems with that, it's your own damn fault.


I agree with the sentiment, though to be fair you should have seen some of that coming.

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  Old Post 18-04-2002 16:32
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Originally posted by Caligastia
You are the one who decides to interpret what is happening around you in a way that brings these emotions on.

If your brain doesnt tell your body to create an emotional state then it wont happen.


True - but a lot of emotional responses are instinctive or subconscious. For example, say a particular situation such as speaking in front of an angry crowd makes you nervous. I can almost guarantee no matter how many times you say to yourself 'I am not nervous, everything will be fine' you'll still be feeling the emotion. It's the situation that's triggering your subconscious mind to bring on the emotional response, not you (entirely). So your conscious mind can't be entirely blamed for it, which is why you can say:

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"You are making me angry"


And be completely correct.

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Christianity is more plausible than the idea of karma.



You've somehow weighted each of them mathematically and come to this conclusion? What's the plausability ratio of Christianity to Karma?

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As far as I'm concerened Christianity is 0% plausible.

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  Old Post 18-04-2002 16:43
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You are the one who decides to interpret what is happening around you in a way that brings these emotions on.

Emotions are basically different physical states that your body takes on depending on what your brain tells it. If your brain doesnt tell your body to create an emotional state then it wont happen.

So the statement "You are making me angry" is false.

Any thoughts?


That is so right. I know from experience that with proper training and enlightenment, you can completely block out certain emotions.

Throughout most of my life, I've been angry at everyone around me. They were bullying me constantly. I was their tormented tool of amusement. You'd expect any kid with that upbringing to find a gun, take it to school and shoot them all.

However, I have come to the realisation that anger is the most futile thing to ever exist in our minds. It achieves nothing, clouds rational thought and gives bullies more ammunition to shoot at you.

Lately, I've been trying to train myself to avoid being angry at anything. I'm just so tired of being angry that I just can't let out the negative energy within that way. I have to go off and do something creative with that energy, blast a few bots in Unreal Tournament, conquer the world (again) in Civ3, or I'll meditate.

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  Old Post 18-04-2002 17:14
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I have to go off and do something creative with that energy, blast a few bots in Unreal Tournament, conquer the world (again) in Civ3, or I'll meditate.


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  Old Post 18-04-2002 17:19
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Fear is a very difficult emotion to control.

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But fear will turn you to the dark side

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Fear will only turn you over to the dark side if you do nothing about it. You need to be afraid. Anyone who doesn't feel fear is a completely deluded fool. Fear is only dangerous when it isn't faced. When you don't face your fears, then you are a coward.

If you are not careful, someone could use your darkest fears to control you. And that is when your dark side surfaces.

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Fear will only turn you over to the dark side if you do nothing about it. You need to be afraid. Anyone who doesn't feel fear is a completely deluded fool. Fear is only dangerous when it isn't faced. When you don't face your fears, then you are a coward.

If you are not careful, someone could use your darkest fears to control you. And that is when your dark side surfaces.


How many clichés in this one ?

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How many clichés in this one ?


Yeah. I know its all been said before. Over and over again. But it is one of those things that needs to be seen as the truth. A lot of clichés really do sound stupid, but by my opinion, this one isn't one of them.

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True - but a lot of emotional responses are instinctive or subconscious. For example, say a particular situation such as speaking in front of an angry crowd makes you nervous. I can almost guarantee no matter how many times you say to yourself 'I am not nervous, everything will be fine' you'll still be feeling the emotion. It's the situation that's triggering your subconscious mind to bring on the emotional response, not you (entirely). So your conscious mind can't be entirely blamed for it, which is why you can say:


Why do some people get nervous a lot more than others? You can definitely block out nerves by just training. Anger too, I almost never get angry.

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  Old Post 19-04-2002 16:56
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I too am very rarely angry.

I disagree totally with Cali though. If people can control their emotions (their moods, their thoughts), how come we see thought and mood disorders?

(ie, schizophrenia and depression respectively).

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  Old Post 19-04-2002 17:05
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Why do some people get nervous a lot more than others? You can definitely block out nerves by just training. Anger too, I almost never get angry.


I too very rarely get angry... being drunk helps that one but I'm almost never violent unless it's necessary. Anyway, some people are just afraid of more things or react worse... I remember reading about some study showing how different people react in different ways to stress etc.

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I relax under stress or violent situations. I get very calm indeed. When I worry is when there's no immediate pressure but I can't immediately solve the problem.

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I was diagnosed with manic-depression (bipolar disorder) about eight years ago; at that time my "natural" emotions were destructive. During the manic part of the cycle I wouldn't be able to sleep, and during the depressive part I'd be absolutely miserable and would just want to sleep all of the time. Meds fixed me up, but they weren't a very good long-term solution; vastly increased levels of stress would throw my brain even more out of kilter, to the point that the meds would simply stop functioning, and I'd be right back to where I started.



BINGO!! We have a winner! My oldest daughter is bipolar/manic depressive and what you described is what she lives through everyday. Currently we are in the sleep cycle. She will sleep for 16 to 18 hours a day. Same thing. Meds work for a while but then everything will suddenly seem off. We can usualy tell when that is happening she has this thing she does with her hands she'll start to shake them and that's my cue to know somethings up.

I never said anything about aura's. Some people believe in that. As I said before I just think it takes more energy to exhibit negative behavior then it does to be kind and usually with a worse outcome. History has shown us that things go in cycles. What goes around comes around. If that theory is true, then I'd rather give out kindness so I can be on the receiving end of kindness then rudeness. That's just my own persoanl choice, everyone is different each person has to find what works for them.

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SHUDDAP YOU GUYS ARE REALLY MAKING ME ANGRY

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From the 2001 Demotivators calendar:
"Dysfunction,
The only consistent feature of your dissatisfying relationships is YOU."

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But fear will turn you to the dark side


Fear leads to anger;
Anger leads to hate;
hate leads to the dark side;

....The dark side leads to GREAT SEX!

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1) You own your emotions --- saying, "You make me angry!" gives that other person seem like they have more power over you than they really have. You give the impression that they own your feelings, rather than yourself.

2) How you perceive what a person does affects how you will feel or react. So a better, more self-empowering response would be this: "I feel very slighted when our telephone calls are cut off abruptly."

This lets the person know that he or she is not treating you with respect over the telephone, and using the "I" language shows that you, and only you, own your feelings.


Did anyone read my post??

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True - but a lot of emotional responses are instinctive or subconscious. For example, say a particular situation such as speaking in front of an angry crowd makes you nervous. I can almost guarantee no matter how many times you say to yourself 'I am not nervous, everything will be fine' you'll still be feeling the emotion. It's the situation that's triggering your subconscious mind to bring on the emotional response, not you (entirely). So your conscious mind can't be entirely blamed for it, which is why you can say:



And be completely correct.


Not really. To be completely correct you would say "My interpretation of your behaviour is making me angry".

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I too am very rarely angry.

I disagree totally with Cali though. If people can control their emotions (their moods, their thoughts), how come we see thought and mood disorders?

(ie, schizophrenia and depression respectively).


People can control their emotions, but it is difficult at the best of times. If you have a disorder its even harder.

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Did anyone read my post??


Poor MrFun, once again everyone is ignoring him.

You must be one high-maintenance bltch!

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HEY..stop that..Iwill BODY SLAM YOU AND JACK THIS THREAD SO BAD YO MAMMA WON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE IT!

Leave MF alone will ya?? Before you make me MAD

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You can slam your body on to me any time, sweetie

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Ohhhhh...shy boy speaks out!! Horny are we??

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All I get is a LAUGHING FACE?? UCK! I told Cali I would jack this thread but I guess I will not!:sad:

 
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