20-04-2002 21:51									#31
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I'm sorry, I thought that

"Perhaps we can help make this the beginning of the end for the Jews"

and

"The sixpointed star represents Satan, the crown symbolizes the master of the world, which is how satan and his sons, the jews, see themselves"

would make normal people feel uneasy.

I guess I was wrong.

	20-04-2002 21:53									#32
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how about everyone who has a problem with him ignoring him?

it's just a click away...

http://apolyton.net/forums/member2....mp;userid=15063

	20-04-2002 21:56									#33
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quote: Perhaps we can help make this the beginning of the end for the Jews.

I guess one would have to read between the lines. But in the end Mark, it's your call. I know if this was said about any group I was apart of I would be pissed off to say the least. I don't see anything wrong with Siro's reaction.

	20-04-2002 22:01									#34
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that line sprayber is the end of a text that he copied from a site and pasted it here. that makes me think that he doesnt deserve the attention(and even credit to his idiotic friends) of geting banned. the best thing would be to be ignored...

	20-04-2002 22:08									#35
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Mark, this is wholly irresponsible of you.
Congratulations.

Perhaps DanQ has more sense, being Canadian and all.

	20-04-2002 22:08									#36
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG the best thing would be to be ignored...

Too late

	20-04-2002 22:21									#37
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Siro - 'people' is countable, therefore 'how many people'

and @ Mark's link

	20-04-2002 22:24									#38
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Is this a spot of nostalgia for the heady days of early 1999? You know, the pre-moderation days when we had white supremacists like Joe and violent homophobes like Michael Jeszenka freely posting their latest notions?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the appointment of OT moderation intended to tackle this? Or was it just to tackle the true world evil of spam?

Ignoring this crap just isn't good enough.

	20-04-2002 22:53									#39
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About time for another tirade at Britney (Speer), there Laz?

	20-04-2002 22:54									#40
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Mark, this is a dangerous double standard.

Siro cut and pasted racial hate remarks from this poster, and your blowing it off as "it's his opinion".

Sets a bad precident.

	20-04-2002 22:54									#41
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Blah!!!

I accidentally clicked on mark's link....

how do I un-irgnore him?

Ignoring people is wrong. always.

	20-04-2002 23:00									#42
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un ignored.

ignoring bad things is always a mistake. we've learnt it the hard way, many many times.

	20-04-2002 23:01									#43
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It's not. I'm ignoring like 5 or 6 people already. It's fun!

	20-04-2002 23:01									#44
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nah, that's bull!

	20-04-2002 23:04									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin the way I see it: If people cannot see he is displaying Nazi propaganda, then your highlighting of it (with or without a public health warning) will only serve to give greater coverage to the lies, and those susceptable to it.

The point of making a public fuss of it is to make others aware of it. Then hopefully, in a civil society it will be condemned for what it is and the purveyors of hate may slither back under their rocks. It might work better than the silent sufferance of it that many minorities have practiced in the past. Were it not for Siro's thread I would be unaware of this incident. Because of it, I can lend my voice to his.

Condemn. Such racially hateful material has no place in any civil society.

	20-04-2002 23:47									#46
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quote: Originally posted by GP About time for another tirade at Britney (Speer), there Laz?

He's been behaving himself lately, so he gets left alone.

	21-04-2002 00:54									#47
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oh...I thought the name itself pissed you off.

	21-04-2002 01:01									#48
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My 6th attempt to post to this thread over the last hours. Yes, I support Siro here, but who would listen to me, knowing I'm not objective, and can not be.

	21-04-2002 01:19									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny He's been behaving himself lately, so he gets left alone.

Perhaps you should read the Skater thread.

He said that all skaters do not bathe, are "morally corrupt", "horrible people", etc.

	21-04-2002 01:20									#50
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Just who is that guy and where does he come from?

Sometimes I'm just so happy of my really rare visits to OTF.

	21-04-2002 01:38									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov ignoring bad things is always a mistake. we've learnt it the hard way, many many times.

you're not ignoring history here siro, you're ignoring an idiot....


bunny, seeing you asking for bans is rather interesting i must say...

	21-04-2002 01:46									#52
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither The point of making a public fuss of it is to make others aware of it. Then hopefully, in a civil society it will be condemned for what it is and the purveyors of hate may slither back under their rocks. It might work better than the silent sufferance of it that many minorities have practiced in the past. Were it not for Siro's thread I would be unaware of this incident. Because of it, I can lend my voice to his. Condemn. Such racially hateful material has no place in any civil society.

Its not raising the issue that I think is misguided, but linking the material, posting screenshots of the sites etc. Why not just post a link to the relevant thread.

Posting the screenshots and animations seemed to me to bring the wrong attention - i.e attention to the material and not the person posting it.

Siro has the right to post the material, and I'm not complaining, just saying that if someone was posting hate material about Chartered Accountants I wouldn't post those Monty Python sketches about us.

	21-04-2002 02:05									#53
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Don't worry about it, Marky. MtG had the balls to do it.

	21-04-2002 02:33									#54
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that's right glonky, i was worried that my nazi jewhaters friends would stop talking to me if i banned him....

	21-04-2002 02:35									#55
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You know how it is in Greece.

	21-04-2002 02:39									#56
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Now you're being a twot Asher. I was wondering when Mark would hoist some of us on our petards for snide comments made about his local. To bad you've beat him to the punch.

	21-04-2002 02:40									#57
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I've always made snide remarks about his locale, and he can make fun of my locale. It's a long history.

(And when am I not a twot(tw<em></em>at?)?)

	21-04-2002 02:49									#58
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glonky, i'd love to see you actually find a single comment of me making fun of canada....

nye

	21-04-2002 02:51									#59
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I said you can make fun of my locale. Even I make fun of it.

But it is rather disturbing you didn't see it appropriate to ban a Nazi spouting off, but what can ya do?

	21-04-2002 02:56									#60
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the fact that NOW you're saying i can do something when in fact i never ever did it, isnt much worth, is it?