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Asher is offline Asher
King
Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:19
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It's not supposed to be worth something. Everyone makes fun of Canada, don't you ever go to the OTF?

Lazarus and the Gimp is offline Lazarus and the Gimp
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Whale-raping abomination
Aug 2000
time: 05:19
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkG
you're not ignoring history here siro, you're ignoring an idiot....


bunny, seeing you asking for bans is rather interesting i must say...


That would be a poor second to what I'd really like to do, which would be to break his nose. I'm convinced that you get people who attain a certain transcendental degree of viciousness/stupidity at which point it's totally pointless to try reasoning with them.

This might be interesting, but it's not new. Three years ago I was asking why Joe wasn't banned. The brutal truth is that I don't come here to read racist, anti-semitic crap, and I doubt that anyone does. Let these anti-jew posts stand and they'll end up dominating the OT, in which there will be people arguing for and against them on principles. Then you'll get the odd evil little bastard tempted out to post. They hang around the OT and I can name them. Plus you'll get people trolling the issue for laughs.

Banning? It isn't nice, is it? I'd still do it though. Weed one or two irredeemable rats out and leave the forums a more tolerant and friendly place. Significantly, it looks like the latest troglodyte has already been IP banned from another forum, and while I've no idea of the ins or outs of that affair, it looks like holocaust revisionism was involved. That's beyond stupid- it's evil. Given my ignorance I'm not going to point any fingers over that, but in view of what the moron's posted here so far it's unlikely he'll feature on my Christmas card list.

Still, I can't ban anyone, and my opinions count for something less than diddly squat. I can do little more than hurl abuse at him. And I will.

Anyway. what's so "interesting" about it? Is it because I've been banned myself? Those bans were for hurling abuse at a homophobe and a pro-eugenicist. Spot any trends emerging?

Lazarus and the Gimp is offline Lazarus and the Gimp
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Aug 2000
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oh...I thought the name itself pissed you off.


It does. I'm still going easy on him, though. I've got forlorn hopes that he might grow out of it.

Sirotnikov is offline Sirotnikov
King
<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
time: 07:19
  Old Post 21-04-2002 03:43
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Look, I would prefer the possibility to sit down and explain to him why his wrong.

And if he wouldn't listen, I don't think I'd break his nose like bugsy here.

Then I'd ignore him.

But I do want to make sure that his message isn't heard.

Because someone with less information or tools to judge reality can be swayed by this.

And it quite frightens me how casually and coldly and politely he said it all.

The nazis these days like to pretend they are the normal ones, and the people they piss off are "fanatics".

Ecthy is offline Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
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The nazis these days like to pretend they are the normal ones, and the people they piss off are "fanatics".


I'm so glad I'm normal. It's sad this site is full of fanatics though.

BeBro is offline BeBro
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Mar 2000
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Originally posted by MarkG
usually we dont ban people because they say stupid things


Perhaps you should make exceptions from that rule from time to time....

Hydey is offline Hydey
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up shyte creek without a paddle
Mar 2000
time: 14:19
  Old Post 21-04-2002 06:16
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I see the troll had the desired effect.

faded glory is offline faded glory
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This trash talking 2 bit dope dealer is about to learn respect for the law
Jan 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Solver
Just who is that guy and where does he come from?

Sometimes I'm just so happy of my really rare visits to OTF.


ya its a wasteland for idiots. I stopped..wasnt worth the time. This particular guy was wierd. Was it him or Kilroy_Alpha, who said the Nazi's should fire up the ovens again, but not the jews, for the fags

MBloomIII is offline MBloomIII
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Jan 2001
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Wow! What's the point of moderation if not for weeding out hate-filled crap? Perhaps MarkG has a soft spot for anti-Semites? Interesting that no other Mods are showing support for the decision. I don't see how you can reasonably turn a blind eye to this. I would attempt to sum up my feelings, but Laz did so nicely.

Felch is offline Felch
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Sep 2001
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It appears to me that this is a double standard. It doesn't bother Mark that people are spreading hateful propaganda on his site, in clear violation of the rules. If you're going to have rules, Mark, you might as well enforce them evenly.

Solver is offline Solver
Apolyton Duke Of Something
Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
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Markos I'll ask the Jewish Community to go to Thesalloniki and arrest you .

Ecthy is offline Ecthy
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Mar 2000
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While moderation shouldn't be political motivated, it should be there or keeping the site clean of inhumane flaming. And since this was not politically motivated but rather a flamefest, he should be banned.

Mr. President is offline Mr. President
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The leaves that are green turn to brown
Jul 2001
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How this man escaped a ban is beyond me.

Solver is offline Solver
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Sep 2000
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Let's just face the fact that Markos has a couple of oddities... everyone knows he just loves the thread rating feauture, refusing to kill it, despite the multiple requests. This must be one of them.

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Aug 2001
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Originally posted by Sirotnikov
But I do want to make sure that his message isn't heard.


By posting all his posts again? Strange.
But reading your reasons, I can understand where you are coming from.


The hate **** the original poster posted is definately worthy of a ban. I'm glad MTG did it.

EDIT: Hopefully this makes more sense

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Ecthy is offline Ecthy
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heh, nevermind this, it was just the discussion on wehther to ignore him or ban him

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Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Aug 2001
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Fine.

I guess I should have read the thread first...

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Aug 2001
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Ok. Read the thread, and it went just like I thought it would.
I guess my post just wasn't too clear. Hopefully thats fixed now

Hueij is offline Hueij
Emperor
Kokonino Kounty
May 1999
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  Old Post 22-04-2002 03:00
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Everything Bugs said...

quote:
And Gian iirc even confronted WFHerman in one thread... so I don't suppose it's him.


It isn't him. WFHermans is the name of a Dutch writer who would (if he was still alive) probably visit our WFHermans and kick the hell out of him...

TCO is offline TCO
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Richmond, VA
Jan 1970
time: 00:19
  Old Post 22-04-2002 03:17
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I protest your avatar, hueji.

Gibsie is offline Gibsie
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Jan 1970
time: 05:19
  Old Post 22-04-2002 04:28
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"And Gian iirc even confronted WFHerman in one thread... so I don't suppose it's him."

Someone arguing with his own DL? No, that's not likely...

rah is offline rah
Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason
Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:19
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Yep, I found that funny too.

The best threads were where EVC would argue with all of his DLs.

RAH

Tingkai is offline Tingkai
Warlord
To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:19
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Herman deserves a ban for his comment about the jews being the son of Satan.

However, some of the quote cited by Sirotnikov are not that far out of line. The bit about governments doing surveys to find out how their propaganda is being recieved is true for most governments in economically developed countries, although it would be better if Herman said Israeli instead of jew.

Still, I'd back Siro's call for a ban. Sometimes we need to tell people they've stepped over the line. I went to far once and was rightfully banned. Herman needs his knuckles rapped.

Ming is offline Ming
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Jan 1970
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I went to far once and was rightfully banned. Herman needs his knuckles rapped.


Uhhhhh... he was banned by MtG... you should have read the entire thread

Tingkai is offline Tingkai
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Aug 2001
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Okay, what's the smilie for feeling really stupid.

Ming is offline Ming
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Okay, what's the smilie for feeling really stupid.


Take your pick...







But this one probably works best :

Solver is offline Solver
Apolyton Duke Of Something
Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
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I would suggest :solver: one.

Ari Rahikkala is offline Ari Rahikkala
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Unreported loss of streaming in atomic read operation
Oct 1999
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EvC might be virtually dead, but his spirit lives on, and even thought WFHerman is banned, he will return, and then everyone will ! Yeah! HAIL STUPIDITY! HAIL IGNORANCE! WE LIVE FOR YOU, THE GREAT TROLL SPIRIT!

Tuberski is offline Tuberski
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ACK!!! PTHBBPPPTTT!!!!
Feb 2002
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It seems to me that linking everything WFHermans said was inappropriate as well. It looked like a poor me I'm being repressed thread. I do agree with Sirotnikov, I just think he was trolling for sympathy.

Sirotnikov is offline Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
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Erm, no, I wasn't.

I wanted to present all the needed evidence to convict him of posting hateful materials.

I think it's ver important to present all the evidence.

Just because I linked to it, doesn't mean I support it, and I think the people here are smart enough to realize why I brought it.

 
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