21-04-2002 07:32									#61
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David, your own personal experience does not apply across the entire society of children in United States.

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Don't remind me Imran

	21-04-2002 07:33									#63
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MrFun... you must not have been a kid... most kids have the experience Floyd has had.

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Yeah, I'm definitely not the only one MrFun.

	21-04-2002 07:36									#65
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun When preteen kids view pornography pictures of ADULTS, what do think the connection is?? The sexual pleasure that is claimed to be derived from sex between an adult and a child

This is the silliest thing I've ever heard. When I was 12 I wanted to boff one of my English teachers. This means that I was setting myself up for pedophilia when I became an adult?

Not likely. I found 25 year-old women attractive then, and I find 25 year-old women attractive now.

	21-04-2002 07:38									#66
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Not likely. I found 25 year-old women attractive then, and I find 25 year-old women attractive now.

i must agree with that

	21-04-2002 07:42									#67
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Ok, I am convinced by you guys' arguments that there is a lack of connection between preteen children viewing pornography and potential risk of acting on pedophilia.

Besides, I was beginning to sound like an extreme conservative, religious fundamentalist on this issue.

I had this crush on our 30 year old coach in junior high, and never acted on it, so yeah, I see your point.

And for a long time, I have enjoyed pornography, but never got into that until I was 19.

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Woohoo a debate was actually won on Poly

	21-04-2002 07:47									#69
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Only cause its on Porno, not the ME, so it doesn't count.

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quote: Originally posted by Seeker Dr.Strangelove, I know your some kind of expert or something, but I was, like, THERE, if you know what I mean when most of the 5th Grade started to discover the Wonderful World of Mastrubation. According to what I remember, puberty hits at 13 or 100 lbs, whichever comes first.

Yes, but isn't the national animal of your country the beaver?

Even one and two year olds play with their equipment. You might have gotten a pleasent sensation out of the experience, you might even have induced a spasm of the vas deferens resembling ejaculation, but nothing happened, right? I'm sure you didn't have the same sex drive at age ten that you had at age sixteen. IIRC, wasn't there some older girl egging you onto this, or was that someone else?


DF- Fifeteen year olds aren't preteens.

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True.

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quote: DF- Fifeteen year olds aren't preteens.

OK, but 12 year olds have crushes on their teachers or supermodels too, you know?

	21-04-2002 07:50									#73
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Hah, he got you on that point, David.

But I still agree with you guys now, since I have looked at my own crush I had in junior high.

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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove you might even have induced a spasm of the vas deferens resembling ejaculation, but nothing happened, right?

I started "striking oil" at 11...

EDIT: which is weird, because I didn't formally go through puberty (IIRC that's defined in males as the point at which the pubic hair starts to curl) until 12 or 13.

	21-04-2002 07:52									#75
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It was around 12 for me IIRC.

	21-04-2002 08:05									#76
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Texas tea at 11, curls at early 12.

Must be a wierd Canadian thing, too close to Lake Erie or something.

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Crazy Canucks

	21-04-2002 08:59									#78
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Hmmmmm.....maybe, but you'd be surprised how inaccurate human memory can be when personal pride is involved.

So are all you early bloomers happy with the way that your nascent sexuality blossumed?

	21-04-2002 09:00									#79
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Hey that's a low blow

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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove So are all you early bloomers happy with the way that your nascent sexuality blossumed?

Pretty happy...

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What a bastard

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Actually, I just got through blossoming twice today, and twice yesterday.

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Porn, like most things in life, can be ok if not used excessively.

3 times a day is not excessive.

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How about 5?

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You need a more accessible girlfriend.

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I suppose alot of this is a religious/personal morality type of issue, but as I pointed out it could lead to warped attitudes depending on what exactly the porn is. Also, many feminists have said that pornography degrades women.

"it happens. When kids become sexually active they need to relieve themselves,"

Can you prove that? They may have desires to do so, but then you just can't act on any desire. You might desire to hit that teacher who is being really annoying, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse You need a more accessible girlfriend.

Yes... when I move down south, the accessibility will be there .

	21-04-2002 09:18									#88
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd How is pornography morally dangerous? Isn't it just the human body? I mean, for a kid - worst case it causes masturbation, right? How is that bad?

it can be an element leading some to want to be pron stars

not a healthy goal in life

(seriously I knew 10 and 11 year olds who wanted to be porn stars)

it can also be an element leading to groups of young teens (14ish) deciding to act out what they see

Jon Miller

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller (seriously I knew 10 and 11 year olds who wanted to be porn stars)

When I was 11 I wanted to be a mathematician.

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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Sure, but isn't sex natural?

not when they are emotionally children (and physically)

Jon Miller