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No, of course not.
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I agree with you Mr. Fun
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Hmmmmm.....maybe, but you'd be surprised how inaccurate human memory can be when personal pride is involved.
So are all you early bloomers happy with the way that your nascent sexuality blossumed? |
I have read that children in the US (particularly girls) are going through puberty at a younger age
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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
I suppose alot of this is a religious/personal morality type of issue, but as I pointed out it could lead to warped attitudes depending on what exactly the porn is. Also, many feminists have said that pornography degrades women.
"it happens. When kids become sexually active they need to relieve themselves,"
Can you prove that? They may have desires to do so, but then you just can't act on any desire. You might desire to hit that teacher who is being really annoying, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. |
porn does degreade women and men
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Austin, Texas, USA
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--"But pornography provides additional encouragment, that's all"
So how do you feel about kids watching violent movies or TV shows? (Okay, so Mr. Fun's changed his mind, but how about Jon Miller?)
--"I have read that children in the US (particularly girls) are going through puberty at a younger age"
This is much more likely to be a reaction to something like good nutrition than to viewing porn 
--"porn does degreade women and men"
Heh. Some of the stuff is actually done quite well, and doesn't really count as degrading. Your statement is a bit too much of a generalization.
BTW, what about boxing? Is it degrading? If not, why?
Wraith
Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject.
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Dr Strangelove
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Originally posted by Jon Miller
I have read that children in the US (particularly girls) are going through puberty at a younger age
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Yes, but that's been true for 40 years now. You still can't produce sperm prior to developing at least a full "beard" of downy pubic hair and testicular enlargment. It's a physiologic fact. I'm not an expert, I'm a physician. I had to learn this. I've seen probably thousands of peri-pubescent kids for sports physicals. The sequence of events is really remarkably precise.
You know, if you were so young that you didn't know what you were doing maybe you shouldn'y have been doing it. It could be argued that you weren't "relieving tensions". Did you learn to do this entirely on your own initiative or did someone expose you to it?
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Originally posted by Alynzia
Serious questions!
At what age roughly can a boy first ejaculate?
What is the average 'refractory period'?
(i.e. the time between orgasm and when the next erection can be achieved - it can range from 3 minutes to 24 hours!)
Pornography is nice. People make money and people are made happy. I don't feel threatened by girls with huge boobs, they look nice, big deal.
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Boys can generally ejaculate when they've reached Tanner Stage 2+ or 3 of sexual development.
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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
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I was a late bloomer. I . . . well, uhm
. . . I believed them when they said masturbation was morally wrong and made you have more acne and maybe the hair on the palms thing too.
I think that there is a paticular problem that Playboy causes, which is it sets up an unrealistic fantasy for men on what sexually attractive women are supposed to be. Since most women don't have impossibly skinny waists, flawless skin, and gravity defying breasts, it's a little hard to find a perfect women.
However, as a child, I was extemely in favor of children, or one particular child at anyrate, having access to porn. I felt the same as a teen, and I see no reason for that belief to change now. I expect I will probably change my views when I have children, but that will be hypocritical of me.
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Originally posted by Wraith
--"But pornography provides additional encouragment, that's all"
So how do you feel about kids watching violent movies or TV shows? (Okay, so Mr. Fun's changed his mind, but how about Jon Miller?)
--"I have read that children in the US (particularly girls) are going through puberty at a younger age"
This is much more likely to be a reaction to something like good nutrition than to viewing porn
--"porn does degreade women and men"
Heh. Some of the stuff is actually done quite well, and doesn't really count as degrading. Your statement is a bit too much of a generalization.
BTW, what about boxing? Is it degrading? If not, why?
Wraith
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there is still the fact that kids are being moved towards something that emotionally they are not ready for
the age thing was my counter that kids were able to do stuff or think about it at younger ages than previously (While in general being less mature for longer)
I am for, for various ages, kids being limited in their exposure to violence in the media and telvision until they are emotionally mature
I think however that violence is something easilier handled at a younger age, Sex is for adults (As is porn)
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I think that there is a paticular problem that Playboy causes, which is it sets up an unrealistic fantasy for men on what sexually attractive women are supposed to be. Since most women don't have impossibly skinny waists, flawless skin, and gravity defying breasts, it's a little hard to find a perfect women |
I'm not just adressing Che here, but his quote is relevant to the arguement that porn has warped our sense of beauty. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that other more "legal" forms of entertainment had warped our sense of beauty many moons before you first laid eyes on porn?
For instance movie stars, clothing catalogs, people on television in general. Are these people not exceedingly attractive, and therefore unrealistically beautiful? For instance, you could blame porn for a young child feeling overweight and ugly, though chances are the person she's comparing herself to isn't some bombastic porn star, in fact, she's probably trying to emulate some teen pop star a la Brittany Spears who we, both men and society, tend to glorify.
What I'm suggesting is that this typical arguement gets well ahead of itself in that it could be argued our sensibilities about beauty are warped long before anyone gets their hands on porn. Porn is just an easy target for criticism and is perhaps unabashedly about (male?) sexuality and the human body.
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David Floyd
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I think WE is spot-on.
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