08-05-2002 13:51									#151
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Well, Snappy, option (b) is a true statement. If you'll allow an appearance as a back-up singer to count. Cissy Houston, indeed, sang back-up on daughter Whitney's 1987 #1 "I Wanna Dance With Somebody". She also sang back-up on Presley's 1969 "Suspicious Minds" which went very close to the top. Well, #2, which is as close as you can go.

And I'm very damn sure there was a mother-son combo in the 1970s. I'm just having a very hard time nailing it down. Ten years is a dang lot of #1s!

So, if we're counting back-up singers, all four statements are true! Which is of academic interest only, because, obviously, back-up singers weren't included when the question was framed

	08-05-2002 16:36									#152
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Yes, if you count back-up singers, all four are true. The Mother-Son combination includes named band members, but not the singer... Early seventies. Novelty record, practically.

The very first incidence of (c) being true for separate records wasn't Julio and Enrique, but someone else. Can you name who? (Clue: Father was a member of a 60s vocal group, son was practically a one hit wonder with a #1 and a #27 hit.)

Oh, and the question of what was the next returnee to #1 after "Oh-Bla-di (etc.)" is still outstanding.

	08-05-2002 17:17									#153
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quote: Originally posted by Snapcase Yes, if you count back-up singers, all four are true. The Mother-Son combination includes named band members, but not the singer... Early seventies. Novelty record, practically.

I'll get it if it kills me. My problem is that I have a couple of books full of truly obscure musical trivia. Except the answers are in a separate book. And do you think I can find the separate book!?

quote: The very first incidence of (c) being true for separate records wasn't Julio and Enrique, but someone else. Can you name who? (Clue: Father was a member of a 60s vocal group, son was practically a one hit wonder with a #1 and a #27 hit.)

As soon as I solve the mother-son combo!

quote: Oh, and the question of what was the next returnee to #1 after "Oh-Bla-di (etc.)" is still outstanding.

Ditto! And what's Fiera up to? Why isn't he pulling his weight? Traipsed off on another Spanish holiday, no doubt.

	08-05-2002 17:54									#154
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quote: Originally posted by Snapcase Yes, if you count back-up singers, all four are true. The Mother-Son combination includes named band members, but not the singer... Early seventies. Novelty record, practically.

Thanks for the tip, Snappy. Of course it's Lieutenant Pigeon's "Mouldy Old Dough" in 1972. Mum played the piano, son did something else in the so-called band. Big hit here in Australia, as was another one of their songs, something with "Kathlene" in the title.

	09-05-2002 06:29									#155
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Yikes! These threads drop quicker than the Argentinian peso!

Okay, while I'm nutting out Snappy's other two questions, here's an easy one for y'all to go on with:

Who, in the 1960s, had British #1s with their first 3 releases?

	09-05-2002 17:01									#156
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It's not that easy! I've found a double initial one and a one one two one, but no one one one so far...

Ah, found it. D'uh. Gerry and the Pacemakers, of course.

	09-05-2002 17:57									#157
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quote: Originally posted by Snapcase Oh, and the question of what was the next returnee to #1 after "Oh-Bla-di (etc.)" is still outstanding.

Mr Blobby's "Mr Blobby", in 1993. WTF is that? But only according to my list, and we've already proved that it's quite fawlty...

	09-05-2002 18:15									#158
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Mr. Blobby is the ultimate best-selling absolutely godawful novelty record. Worse than Ernie and Bob the Builder combined.

	09-05-2002 20:10									#159
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I can't remember it, though I must have heard it then. Was it the record you were thinking of?

	09-05-2002 21:21									#160
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Yes.

	10-05-2002 05:31									#161
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quote: Originally posted by Snapcase It's not that easy! I've found a double initial one and a one one two one, but no one one one so far... Ah, found it. D'uh. Gerry and the Pacemakers, of course.

Yep. And their third was to be their last.

	10-05-2002 05:32									#162
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quote: Originally posted by Snapcase Yes.

Thank God for that. Because I've never heard of the thing and I'm sure I'm a better person for it.

	10-05-2002 05:52									#163
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Thank God for that. Because I've never heard of the thing and I'm sure I'm a better person for it.

I must confess I've been tempted to dl it off Kazaa, but after all I decided I would be better off not knowing how does it sound...

	11-05-2002 14:54									#164
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All right, Snappy, I give up! What was the first case of father-son #1s? This has driven me mad. OTOH, if the son's achievement was relatively recent - like the last 5 years-ish - I never had a hope. My sources in this period are terribly lacking.

	11-05-2002 16:22									#165
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Not last five years or so, no.

The answer is that the father is Tremoloes member "Chip" Hawkes and that the son is "The One And Only" Chesney Hawkes.

	12-05-2002 17:40									#166
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Mmmm. Okay. I would never have got it in a million years.

But my sources tell me that dad was Len "Chip" Hawkes, an ex-carpenter - hence, presumably, his nickname, "chippie" being a nickname for a carpenter - who joined the post-Brian Poole version of the Tremeloes in time to sing the lead on the cover of "Good Day Sunshine", prior to "Silence Is Golden", etc. He was considered "an adequate bass player ... also blessed with a strong lead voice and was considered handsome - sexy even".

And, it seems, he also, at some point, fathered a son.

Be that all as it may - here's one that'll test out your sources. Name the last two records (and artists, if you care) that achieved joint #1 status on the British charts.

	13-05-2002 10:36									#167
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Come on, guys, the question's not that hard.

Mmmm. Maybe it is.

	14-05-2002 15:49									#168
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Where the hell are you guys!?

	14-05-2002 15:54									#169
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I just woke up.

	14-05-2002 17:47									#170
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At midday?

	14-05-2002 17:55									#171
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We're students, remember! We can wake up at midday if we want to!

	15-05-2002 04:31									#172
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*sighs*

I remember when ...

*sighs again*

Now answer the bloody question, someone! In the meantime, I'll set about finding something easier.

	15-05-2002 06:36									#173
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Okay, something easier. Well, relatively.

Gerry and The Pacemakers and Frankie Goes To Hollywood have much in common. As Snappy identified earlier, G & TP's first 3 releases went to #1 on the British charts. Twenty one years later, FGTH equalled the feat, something always considered just about impossible.

There are three other coincidences between the two bands. One, pretty obscure, you'll never get, so I won't ask for it.

But what are the other two?

	15-05-2002 20:15									#174
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Well, both bands were formed in Liverpool.

	15-05-2002 20:46									#175
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What's so improbable about having your first three releases go to #1? It seems increasingly likely in the age of manufactured pop if anything, and I can name at least three groups to have done so in the past ten years.

My knowledge of eighties music is dim. Sorry. Still, based purely on the charts, not only did their first three releases reach number one, their fourth releases reached #2, and then they never had a top 3 hit again.

	16-05-2002 04:37									#176
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera Well, both bands were formed in Liverpool.

True. That's the first - and most obvious - coincidence.

	16-05-2002 04:43									#177
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quote: Originally posted by Snapcase What's so improbable about having your first three releases go to #1? It seems increasingly likely in the age of manufactured pop if anything, and I can name at least three groups to have done so in the past ten years.

It was considered impossible at the time - by which I mean, right up until it happened. Which was way before manufactured pop, about which you're absolutely right.

quote: My knowledge of eighties music is dim. Sorry. Still, based purely on the charts, not only did their first three releases reach number one, their fourth releases reached #2, and then they never had a top 3 hit again.

True. That's the second - and less obvious - coincidence. But there's a third one. The least obvious of the three.

No one wants a crack at the last two singles to share the #1 spot on the British charts?

	16-05-2002 05:12									#178
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Was it Vic Damone's "On the Street Where You Live" & The Everly Brothers': "All I Have to Do I Dream"/"Claudette"....in the summer of 1958?

	16-05-2002 06:22									#179
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In a word - NO!. Very, very good try, but.

	16-05-2002 06:25									#180
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That was one of them though, eh? Just not the last one? Probably the "Do they know it's Christmas" schlock and a Wham! UK song then.