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markusf
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Today in a game with eyes i built the lighthouse.. For some reason it seemed nearly impossible to sink eyes ships with vet tirimes.
Image my shock when i finally won a battle and it said your ship is now vet after i won.. Has anyone ever seen the lighthouse build non vet ships??????????? I built 6 ships after i built light house and only 4 where vet.. The other 2 where somehow non vets in the battle zone.
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EyesOfNight
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I'm hosting and what markus forgets is that veteran ships have an attack of 1.5 and a defense of 1. That's only a .5 higher attack than regular triemes. And if you're trying to say I edited the rules.txt to make the effects of lighthouse expire early, that's ridiculous. This is just markus trying to find some reason for losing when he had an awesome start and even took my capital.
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markusf
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Look, i built the lighthouse at 600 some BC, i had 1 ship built before then and it got destroyed.. The ship in question that i know for an absolute fact (and i have saves) was built around 300 AD and it was non vet. I have those saves because i saved the turn before eyes built the chapel and the turn after.
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markusf
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3 saves..
140 AD, proving i had no non vet ships in my empire.
360, non vet ship
380, non vet becomes vet.
 Attachment: ships.zip
This has been downloaded 4 time(s).
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markusf
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restless tribes on king = no barb ships.
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markusf
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quote:
Originally posted by rah
No bribing of barbs? hmmmm, never played that.
I'll try to make time to download it when I get home.
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Well, since there are no barb ships with those settings you can't bribe them
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markusf
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quote:
Originally posted by rah
No, not yet. My daughter has been monopolizing the PC at home chatting with her friends. I highly doubt a hex editor switched yours off instead of his on. |
Hes edited units in memory before, so this wouldn't be the first time. There is no other explanation for me having a non vet ship. Just a week or 2 ago, he wanted to test something similar out on the zone. Or i suppose this could be some kind of strange bug that no one has ever heard of before, and has only ever happened to me.
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markusf
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If it was any other player i would agree. But with his history of cheating...
I was already getting pretty suspicious when i lost 3 vet ships against 3 of his non vet ships in a row. Thats a virtual imposibility.
In cheat mode i created a line of 20 ships vs 20 non vet ships. 18 times out of 20 the vet ships won.. To win 3 times in a row, the odds are 1/ 10^3 in other words about 1 in 1000 now he claimed in the game while we where playing that his ships became vet after each attack, that would further increase the odds.
Last edited by markusf on 08-05-2002 at 01:38
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markusf
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I did save afterwards.. But those previous turns where critical to the game. I am saying those attack rolls only make sence when vet ships attack vet ships. And i am saying its possible to change a non vet unit to a vet unit using a editor.. Just like you can create settlars, gold etc. It would also explain why i suddenly had a non vet ship.
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EyesOfNight
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2/12/2001
"Yup you must be the best, you will only play duels, you will only play on a medium map, and you will only play if you can host, and you will only play if i am not allowed to build a single caravan the whole game. First game we played you had a bunch of free techs, and 2 settlers allowing you to get rep by 2200 bc. All the huts you tripped where tribes or huts on the path to rep. Where as mine where 6 techs to no government, leaving me with a mess till 500 bc both games. I notice that you have 2 icq accounts online a lot, and sometimes 3 online at the same time. I guess all those extra computers really add to your playing ability? Anyways if you played in simul games with 4 or 5 players you might actually learn how to play, and not be the laughing stock of apolyton."
"Hes edited units in memory before, so this wouldn't be the first time. There is no other explanation for me having a non vet ship. Just a week or 2 ago, he wanted to test something similar out on the zone. Or i suppose this could be some kind of strange bug that no one has ever heard of before, and has only ever happened to me."
Anyone see a trend here? Yes, I toggled the veteran flag of your one unit because I saw how crucial that unit was to the game and the entire game hinged on that trieme. I have stolen victory from you time and again markus. Next time I will thwart you by changing the names of your cities so you get confused!! MUWAHAHAHA!!! I'M SO EVIL! Lets go over the excuses used thus far...
1) I was treating the games as practice, I didn't realize they were serious games.
2) I was new to dueling, I had no idea what I was doing.
3) You toggled the veteran flags on my units.
4) You used 2 computers to cheat.
5) My land was horrible.
6) MY huts were horrible.
7) You got republic first.
8) I got tons of techs from huts.
9) You got all the war wonders.
10) You got all the happy wonders.
11) I was banned from using caravans.
12) Your start was too "fantastic".
Did I miss any? Are there any other excuses to use?
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06-05-2002 10:37
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