07-05-2002 17:34									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov YEah, opera singing. Except I'm not a tenor, I am a baritone.

I reckon that is at least 8 parts talent. Sure, training and hard work are important too, but they don't help much without talent.

	07-05-2002 17:54									#92
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MBA = Marginally Beyond A-Level.

	07-05-2002 18:00									#93
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Arts degrees are a total waste of time. Still we always need burgers and teachers.

I can't be arsed to read the rest of this thread.

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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* MBA = Marginally Beyond A-Level.

umm, you mean Mediocre, But Arrogant?

	07-05-2002 18:18									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi "'What do you say to an arts graduate?' 'Big Mac please' " Better then what you say to a certain sciences graduate: "Here is your unemployment check" Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Ooooh, get you. Actually I have only been unemployed for 2 months, the month after I quit is a little bit hazy, I was trying to get my life figured out...

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You should have done that before you quit.

	07-05-2002 21:17									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I still sing in my spare time on an amateur basis. Making money as a classical vocalist is extremely difficult, particularly enough money on which to totally support one's self.

Extacly! I'm a Soprano with a 3 1/2 octive range but trying to make a living off of singing without teaching......well it's hard. I sing with some local musicans here in town every once and a while and have just recently gotten into the Austin Musical Theater but past that it's really hard to make ends meet on a Vocal Performance major. So I went to Bussiness School after that.

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Strictly speaking, Law is an arts degree. It's rarely considered worthless, however.

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Evan at top schools (HBS, etc.), the MBA tends to be a pretty fluffy degree. Part of the issue being that (for some people) MBA school is basically number crunching for liberal arts weenies.

I don't want to be too crude here. Of course there are people at MBA school who have great quant backgrounds. There are alos lots of useful things that one can do without a quant background. And there are liberal arts students that can handle quant fine. But...for an example...the most hard core derivatives class at Kellogg is taught without calculus. This boggles the mind....

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quote: Originally posted by Tiamat Extacly! I'm a Soprano with a 3 1/2 octive range but trying to make a living off of singing without teaching......well it's hard. I sing with some local musicans here in town every once and a while and have just recently gotten into the Austin Musical Theater but past that it's really hard to make ends meet on a Vocal Performance major. So I went to Bussiness School after that.

Yeah. The good news for me is that, the lower down the voice registers you go, the more in demand you are. Superb sopranos are a dime a dozen, so it's cutthtoat for them. As a baritone, I can generally have an easier time getting singing gigs, as there just aren't as many of us.

And true basses are so in demand it's amazing...but those are the rarest voice of all!

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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny Strictly speaking, Law is an arts degree. It's rarely considered worthless, however.

Not worthless, just verminous

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GP, you sound like my uncle. As far as he's concerned, math is what it's all about and if you're not good at it, you are a second class intellect. Actually, a number of people on this thread sound like him come to think about it...

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I'm glad I'm not a math/science major. Most of them I've met at university are the absolute geeks of the place. Engineering students are the worst. They go the furthest in having no life.

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You know what I told my uncle? "People like me hire people like you."

Pissed him off to no end.

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Oh, btw, you got me to register at Straight Dope by reading a post of yours in an X-Files thread .

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quote: Originally posted by GP I don't want to be too crude here. Of course there are people at MBA school who have great quant backgrounds. There are alos lots of useful things that one can do without a quant background. And there are liberal arts students that can handle quant fine. But...for an example...the most hard core derivatives class at Kellogg is taught without calculus. This boggles the mind....

Translation available ? What do you mean by quant, and what exactly should you learn for calculus ?

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I think he means quaint... which basically means 'chamingly odd'.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui I'm glad I'm not a math/science major. Most of them I've met at university are the absolute geeks of the place. Engineering students are the worst. They go the furthest in having no life.

Try telling that to the geology 'geeks'. About half of them (when I was in school) spent time in the military first. Fun group of guys.
And girls.

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quote: Try telling that to the geology 'geeks'.

You mean 'Rocks for Jocks'?

At least that is what it is refered to at Rutgers.

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"Rocks For Jocks" is the introductory course for the NON-science folks. You know, like "Physics for Poets".

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Nope... most people also consider the entire Geology major to be 'Rocks for Jocks' .

And I've never hear of 'Physics for Poets'.

	08-05-2002 13:51									#112
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...probably because all those other liberal arts softies couldn't handle the required hiking, climbing, and hammer-swinging.

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Yeah, its too beneath us. We like to use our minds and not go 'hammer-swinging'. Oh well, maybe, if these Geology majors are good enough, we might hire them in the future .

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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny Strictly speaking, Law is an arts degree. It's rarely considered worthless, however.

Just the people that have them are worthless. (Ah, Roland... hi... er... never mind.)

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http://www.thewebdesk.com/colin-powell/

quote: General Powell was born in New York City on April 5, 1937, and was raised in the South Bronx. His parents, Luther and Maud Powell, immigrated to the United States from Jamaica. General Powell was educated in the New York City Public Schools, graduating from Morris High School and the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a bachelor's degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University.

Yep...some of them might be hired in the future...

	08-05-2002 14:17									#116
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Aren't we all (worthless) ?

	08-05-2002 14:20									#117
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quote: Yep...some of them might be hired in the future...

Maybe, if they are decent enough .

Though it is amusing that ROTC people tend to go through geology... since they basically get trained on what they want to do in the military.. geology is just something to take until they actually get the real training .

	08-05-2002 14:27									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Roland Aren't we all (worthless) ?

I'm worth £3.50 as a spare part organ donor.

	08-05-2002 14:35									#119
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I know my liver is worthless as a donor organ.

	08-05-2002 14:36									#120
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It might be worth something if donored to the right place.. or person. Herr Juhnke might still profit from it.