14-05-2002 11:30									#121
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quote: Originally posted by frankychan Earth Girls are Easy

Man, there's another I thought was so good, I bought the video.

	14-05-2002 11:32									#122
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You just like Geena Davis .

	14-05-2002 17:33									#124
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Geena and Reese getting dumped on in the same thread. Guys, y'all are sad.

I agree with Zk:

	14-05-2002 19:34									#125
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Oh yes, I forgot about the "Austin Powers" series. Michael Myers doesn't seem to realise that repeating the same joke over and over rapidly wears thin.

	14-05-2002 19:37									#126
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Taxi Driver sucked.

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Every Hulk Hogan movie sucks - Santa with mucsles was the most suckful of them all

	14-05-2002 20:10									#128
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Starship Troopers is definitely high up on the list, no matter how many bad sci-fi movies were made in the Flash Gordon era (and there were a lot of them).
Everyone says the movie is a parody of Heinlein's views, but I never saw anything to indicate that. It just looks like the director was a total idiot. If you want an example, take that "let's all stand in a circle and shoot at the bug in the center of the circle" scene. That's not parody, that's just incredibly stupid. Or the "conducting live-fire drills in a raised area in the middle of the training grounds" bit. The examples were way too many to mention, but it really does just look like the director is a horse's arse (which, I should mention, is borne out by my opinion of his other films).

As far as Heinlein's semi-fascist view, he expressed many different philosophies over the course of his writing career. Starship Troopers is always a fun book to give to someone who's hooked on Stranger in a Strange Land. My favorite (of course) is The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

Back to the main topic, there are just too many possibilites. It's ever so much easier to make a bad movie than a good one.

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	14-05-2002 20:34									#129
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Lol, Twister just sprung to mind. Fortunately, I won the ticket to that one in a Laserdome contest, so atleast I didn't pay for the excrement.

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quote: Originally posted by Wraith Television must be a medium as it is neither rare nor well done

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My gf forced me to watch Moulin Rouge with her. I was sure that I'd hate it as I never liked any musical. But, for some unexplained reason I loved it. I have the doubel DVD and both OST's. I can't explain it, I just like it.

	14-05-2002 22:52									#132
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To me a crap movie has to have no redeeming qualities at all in making you like it...

Moulin Rouge fits the bill perfectly IMO!

I have never in my life seen a movie where they kill the plot before it's even started - they say it ends in tragedy and Kidman's character dies in the opening credits!!!

Then... THEN, they launch into some horrible splicing of pop songs for their 'musical'... ARRRRRGHHHHH! About the time they launched into their Whitney Houston 'Bodyguard' snippet was when we walked! My girlfriend walked, I may have been able to handle sitting thru the whole thing, but I admit that when she walked I had no hesitation of walking out of the first movie I've paid money to see and walk out of!!!

Utter Trash!!! Worst was that we were expecting a great movie...

Another pile of dross was Phantom Menace - I was under no illusions that it was going to be crap. Somehow it exceeded even those expectations!

Starship Troopers - anyone taking that movie seriously ought to be shot! Watch it for it's unashamed self parody and you will find a hilarious movie!!!

People who have read the book and were disappointed I fully understand - I remember being absolutely appalled at the sh*te shadow of crap that the movie Running Man was of the book...

What a waste!

	14-05-2002 23:25									#133
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Starship trooper has some sorry ass acting. Example, the red head Chick gets her arm stabbed.....however, at the end of the movie. When they are dragging out the brain bug. She seems fine.....swinging her hands wildly. Etc..stupid. And dont get me started on those 4 guys killed like 1000 bugs with there 4 rifles, when earlier in the movie 1000 guys couldnt kill 4 bugs.

	15-05-2002 05:17									#134
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quote: Originally posted by Akka le Vil Why so much hate about Starship Troopers ? It's a VERY good satirical movie, one of the best I ever seen I hope that people who hate it just did not see it as something that was to be taken SERIOUSLY ?

Satirical, yes. VERY good, no way!

The problem with the satire was that there was nothing subtle about it. Good satire is subtle, so much so that dumb people don't even get it. Starship ****ers was aimed at 12 year olds who need it rammed down their throats so they don't miss the point. For 30 year olds it was an insult to their intelligence, which reminds me about other flaws in the movie.

Let's see - lets send dozens of humungous spaceships with enourmous armies to an unknown planet to fight an unknown enemy, and we'll kill whatever they are with........machine guns Right then and there i wanted to walk out of the cinema

Satire doesn't work if it's not believable.

BTW, the funniest thing about the movie was how disappointed my friend was sitting beside me. He expected one of the great action movies of all time

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The Machine guns in Starship troopers were a blantent rip-off of the M190 Pulse Rifle's from Aliens.

I liked Aliens btw. After Aliens tho, it went downhill. Stupid computer generated crap just doesnt look real. Sorry...

	15-05-2002 05:34									#136
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Alien³ is underrated and pretty good. Alien 4 is a joke.

	15-05-2002 05:38									#137
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I heard a4 is is all computer crap. Again, I dont like that cheap ****. I can tell the difference. Its like the Clop's Hausen used to use to make his dinosurs. Just not real. No, in fact. I'de rather watch Invasion of the Saucer people or Forbidden planet then Independce day.


oh and how the hell do you actually clone a dead sigourney weaver? Stupid scripts...

	15-05-2002 05:42									#138
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I've been surprised to see that many of you mention "Titanic" as one of the worst movies. Are you serious? IMHO this movie is one of the greatest.

	15-05-2002 05:44									#139
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Never saw titanic. I think Im the only person on the planet who hasnt.

	15-05-2002 05:51									#140
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Titanic was ok. Not great, but not the worst movie ever.

	15-05-2002 06:54									#141
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In the Army now. I'm watching it right now

	15-05-2002 13:24									#142
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CyberGnu, Kirk,

I guess I am just whipped. My GF got Legally Blonde, and it wasn't good I'll grant you, but not any worse than I expected. My GF liked it, which all in all made the experience a positive one, though there are many activities which would have been much more exciting for me.

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Starship Troopers was so bad it was bad. I think it was shooting for so bad it was good, but it overshot the mark by being completely unrealistic in every conceivable way. Yea that's right, people with much faster than light travel have to travel halfway across the galaxy to use MP5s (German SMG, about 30 years old IIRC) and infantry tactics which looked like they came out of the middle ages to fight bugs that threaten their existence. Heinlein may have been a lunatic, but this book deserved better.

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magnolia ( i just wanted to die)
any movie with steven segal
general's daughter (although m. stowe earns exception just like g. gershon does)
jurrasic park
any film with drew barrymore
any film with adam sandler
any film with charlie sheen (especially 'arrival' and such)
shannon tweed movies are crap too
batman and robin

	15-05-2002 14:35									#144
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any American movie
any European movie
any Israeli movie
any movie at all

	15-05-2002 18:28									#145
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Anybody ever watched an Indian film? those thigs are funny as hell

	15-05-2002 19:51									#146
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Anybody ever watched an Indian film? those thigs are funny as hell

I really like them. Most of the ones I've seen mix in a lot of song and dance. The art form is really unknown in the West.

Ned

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MOBIUS- you obviously hate classical tragedies and operas too, right? I mean, you know they'll all die in the end, so they're bad plays. Of course.

The fact is, Moulin Rouge was a near-perfect modern paraphrase of Verdi's La Traviata (or La Dame Aux Camélias, which it was based on). It brings all the dazzle, glamour and energy of said opera to the silver screen, with the ludicrousness of the plot and the implausibility of the characters in one sweet package. If you were after realism you definately went to the wrong movie... Although I don't necessarily share Baz Luhrman's musical tastes (still, Sunscreen was a cool record), Moulin Rouge was insanely beautifully choreographed, filmed, styled, set designed and is the only film I've ever seen where CGI effects are used perfectly. Gorgeous, over-the-top magical operatic stuff.

	15-05-2002 20:21									#148
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Istar and Leonard Part 6. are both up near the top of my list.

Right after a slew of Kevin Kostner movies

	15-05-2002 22:42									#149
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The worst movie ever made was Mr. Wrong with Ellen Degeneres (pre-outing) vainly pretending she was straight. That movie was the biggest pile of steaming crap I've ever paid to see. Ugh.

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quote: The fact is, Moulin Rouge was a near-perfect modern paraphrase of Verdi's La Traviata (or La Dame Aux Camélias, which it was based on). It brings all the dazzle, glamour and energy of said opera to the silver screen, with the ludicrousness of the plot and the implausibility of the characters in one sweet package. If you were after realism you definately went to the wrong movie... Although I don't necessarily share Baz Luhrman's musical tastes (still, Sunscreen was a cool record), Moulin Rouge was insanely beautifully choreographed, filmed, styled, set designed and is the only film I've ever seen where CGI effects are used perfectly. Gorgeous, over-the-top magical operatic stuff.

Wheres the yack smiley at??

Sneak, you deserved to be punished for even THINKING an Ellen Degernes movie could have been good!