15-05-2002 17:56									#1
	Playtest; IMPERIALISM 1870 Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Looking for players.

The Scenario is; IMPERIALISM 1870

It runs from Jan. 1870 to Jan. 1920 w/monthly turns.

Civs are; 1.) British Empire
2.) Russian Empire
3.) German Empire
4.) France
5.) United States
6.) Empire of Japan
7.) Independent Nations (not for human play)
And about 50 barbarian cities

* 255 cities located worldwide.
* African Exploration
* Extended tech tree
* Giga Map
* 3 ways to acheive victory
* Multi-player events file

If interested, leave an email addy in this thread. As soon as the requisite # of players are there, I'll send the file and it will begin.

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	15-05-2002 18:24									#2
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As I recall people allready posted their choises in the playtest thread, as I stated there, I'll take Germany (well I'd prefer Japan but since someone else allready took them in the other thread I wont go after them here )

	15-05-2002 20:33									#3
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Hmm, I'll take Russia unless someone called it on the other thread; I didn't feel like rereading the whole thing. If someone has, I'll take anything that is open...

therock871@aol.com

	15-05-2002 21:30									#4
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Nippon banzai!!!

fratelli.goddi@tiscali.it

Japan for me, thanks.

	15-05-2002 21:31									#5
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I called the US in the other one, so I'll take it here too

[email]

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	15-05-2002 21:36									#6
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From the old thread:
British Empire: Soundwave (I'm not sure if he is still around or not though)
Russian Empire: Dream Deceiver
German Empire: Henrik
France: JMarks
United States: JamesJKirk
Empire of Japan: Winterfritz
Independent/Latin League: Academia

Should someone from this list fail to show up here and claim their civ however, I guess that means it is now free for the taking.

EDIT: Missed JamesJKirks claim for the US

	15-05-2002 21:43									#7
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Exile, should that Latin American civ be played by a human, or is it best left to an AI? It seems like a human would be at an advantage vis a vis the other civs

	16-05-2002 04:28									#8
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Soundwave's not going to have the necessary access to execute his turns in a timely way because of his current situation. Additionally, I'd like to leave the 7th, Independent civ vacant. Academia, would you prefer to take the British?

It's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it.

I'll start sending out the Scenario files to the players now.

And thanks for your participation.

edit; For those who didn't get into this playtest, there is another, Identical thread over on the CivFanatics site. So far, over there the U.S., Russians, Germans, and British have been taken. That leaves the Japanese and French. Prom, better hurry. Darius, if Prometeus takes the Japanese over there, that only leaves the French. I only posted that thread this morning, so move quickly.

About the sound files; There are 2 sound files, both zipped. Each one is just under a full meg. So, let me know when I can conveniently send these to each player. It takes for-freaking-ever to send one of these monsters and I don't want to send one and have it come back undeliverable. These files are essential for getting the full feel of the scenario. I was able to locate some very nice sounds for various units, though many of the naval gunfire sounds remain unchanged.

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	16-05-2002 06:48									#9
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WAHHHH!!!

Well i dont have access to a computer for another 1.5 weeks, except for a gay town library one!

	16-05-2002 06:58									#10
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Couldn't you just send the sound files to one person, and save that mail and then forward it to anyone else who needs them?
My mailbox has a huge limit, so you can send to me anytime.

Soundwave, I don't think the sexual orientation of that computer has anything to do with your not being able to play civ

	16-05-2002 07:04									#11
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Attaching the file to an email only takes a split-second. It's the lengthy uploading process that takes forever, and I know of no way presently to circumvent it.

Wish I did.

	16-05-2002 08:41									#12
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quote: So far, over there the U.S., Russians, Germans, and British have been taken. That leaves the Japanese and French.

Actually, my CivFan login is Darius (not Darius871) so I already have the Russians there .

Just keep in mind I'm always around to fill in on this one if necessary.

	16-05-2002 09:16									#13
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In the Victory section of the ImpRead file, please note this little change, in 2.) "Win the World War" ; "Allied" victories do count as victory in this context. All players in an established alliance system can win if the capitals are occupied by troops of the alliance.

Darius; understood.

JJK; sound files sent.

	16-05-2002 12:21									#14
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Plz post the URL, can't find it on Civfanatics...

	16-05-2002 13:23									#15
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It's in the Multiplayer and PBEM forum of the Civ2 section, in a thread titled, "New scenario requires playtesting." My handle over there is Peregrine.

	16-05-2002 16:05									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Exile Attaching the file to an email only takes a split-second. It's the lengthy uploading process that takes forever, and I know of no way presently to circumvent it. Wish I did.

Why don't you create a crappy geocities site and stick the scenario there, then send the URL to the playtesters

	16-05-2002 16:40									#17
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The Russian position is now available again. DD had to drop out due to technical difficulties. Darius, here's your opportunity.

Case, I don't want general access to the scenario quite yet. For some reason ( ), I've become a little more protective of my work. When I'm satisfied that the playtesters have found what few problems that might (or might not) remain, then I'll simply post it on the Spanish Civ2 site, then, a few days later, on Civfan.

	16-05-2002 16:51									#18
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Sorry Prom, but I'm the descendant of the Sun Goddess here, not you

AFAIK, Smaug took the British after Soundwave pulled out.

Anyone know who plays first?

	16-05-2002 19:27									#19
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Aha, another PBEM, however ive played as russia before, not really my cup of tea. But then again this post is just me showing off the map i made of this, enjoy, and let case update it, hes rather good at it

EDIT: Case isnt in the game so i suppose il take russia,

Grothgar_1999@yahoo.com

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	16-05-2002 19:49									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Grothgar Aha, another PBEM, however ive played as russia before, not really my cup of tea. But then again this post is just me showing off the map i made of this, enjoy, and let case update it, hes rather good at it

Great map, I think I've found a few errors though:

Where did the pacific go?
Poor little Hawaii is somewhere between the right and left end of the map
Same goes for half of New Zeeland as well

A few other errors as well:
Even though I'd wish the germans had a port in africa (as I'm playing them) they haven't got one at the start.

Japan and Germany's colours looks too alike, I wouldn't want to mix up our south east asian colonies

Manilla should belong to the latin league.

You forgot to give hanoi to the french and Rangoon to the brittish.

Techinically as greenland bellongs to denmark it should be painted in the german/scandinavian colour

	16-05-2002 22:22									#21
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quote: Case isnt in the game so i suppose il take russia

Aw, crums.

	16-05-2002 22:24									#22
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You know the really worrying thing about Grothgar's map? He didn't get it off th net or anything: he drew the thing himself, by hand.

	16-05-2002 22:40									#23
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Oops sorry darius, if you still wish to have russia its all yours i didnt notice that you had already put in a bid for it. Sorry. Ill just need your password so i can make updates to the map lol

New map, Henrik does this satisfy you? And the reason for the pacific and hawaii not being there is the limit on this board to a width of 600 pixels, my map is about 657 pixels so the pacific is missing and new zealand had to be moved to an unhistoric place

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	16-05-2002 23:13									#24
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Alright, its starting! Oh, if whoever is playing Britain wants to swap civs... Fine by me. Anywhoo, my ability to play may be spotty this and next week, so if I'm unable to play I'll be sure to find a sub. Oh, don't forget to warn me when it actually gets off the ground too. Looking forward to multi-player testing this baby out . whuhoo!

JMARKS

	16-05-2002 23:19									#25
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Well it's not a big deal since I'm playing the same civ at civfan, so if you really want it you can.

Wanna rock-paper-scissors?

	17-05-2002 02:52									#26
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I'd like to put Grothgar in Russia in this pbem, for 2 reasons. Firstly, he was one of the first people to respond to the prior thread about playing this scenario. Secondly, Darius, you've already got a spot in the pbem over on the other site, and I'd like to get as many different playtesters into these two games as possible, in order to bring different styles of play to bear on the thing.

	17-05-2002 03:00									#27
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Fine by me

	17-05-2002 03:42									#28
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Yep, Fine by me as well, here come the czars!!!

	17-05-2002 06:19									#29
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Right... Exile, I sent you an e-mail back

	17-05-2002 06:38									#30
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Hold the phone.

Henrik, could you please create another post that lists the players and their email addresses?

Don't start yet. I need to send yet another ( ) version out. The changes are; some graphics, many cities now have Coastal Defences, most of the single-square British island "cities" now have no harbors (thus slowing growth), did away with the unwalled "orient" city graphic (unforeseen problems ), and some cities in China are going to be very much tougher to seize and Japan has been weakened somewhat. Sorry WF, but the way it stood, a competent Japanese player could mop up in China without much problem. It needed to be more difficult. The Japanese didn't start grabbing up real estate there until the late 1880s, and the first Sino-Japanese War didn't kick off until 1895. Also, I've made the Orientals a monarchy government and given them quite a bit of cash.

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