19-05-2002 06:32									#31
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It's my favoured method of revenge.

Russian archers get a flukey result against my rifleman? In 2,000 years, there'll be an ICBM with "Moscow" written on it...

Sod strategy, they're just so cathartic...

	19-05-2002 07:18									#32
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To nuke another civilization, I would have to roleplay it : I would need to have some horrible treachery done to me, by a particularly hated opponnent. Then, the nuke would be used in retaliation, just to show him that he did piss of the bad guy

Actually, the Japanese sneak-attacked me and razed two cities (two tiny ones in a faraway island that I did not bother to protect). I plan to retaliate with extreme prejudice once I'll get the ability to

	19-05-2002 07:44									#33
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I changed my mind. I CAN think of a time I would use nukes: on Firaxcis when they have the nerve to tell us we have to spend $30 for a scenario disk.

	19-05-2002 09:43									#34
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I just used my first two in the game im playing now-

Its a world war -4vs4-out of 12starting civs.

My allies have no problem that I nuked Berlin and Hamburg.
In fact they are quite happy about it.
I must say it was quite satisfying.What WERE these guys thinking when they DOWed me?I fully intend to rain nukes on there a$$es untill everyone of them is completly crippled.

	19-05-2002 10:41									#35
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Now Coracle. You can just not buy it. No reason to get nasty.

OTOH, I would use a nuke if I heard Firaxis was making SMAC2.
Pre-emptive strike would save a lot of complaining later.

	19-05-2002 11:55									#36
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In the one game I played in which I conquered 2/3 of the world's landmass in 10 turns (the game went from 7 civs to just 3 very fast), I used them to soften up the biggest of the enemy cities to make way for my hundreds of modern armor and mech infantry.

	19-05-2002 15:58									#37
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If I'm the dominant world power -we're talking controlling two thirds of the landmass - I would use nukes as a precursor to invasion. It doesn't really matter if half the world goes to war with me, since I could crush them all.

	19-05-2002 16:15									#38
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick Now Coracle. You can just not buy it. No reason to get nasty. OTOH, I would use a nuke if I heard Firaxis was making SMAC2. Pre-emptive strike would save a lot of complaining later.

	19-05-2002 17:09									#39
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From the years of playing civ2 I have learned to dislike using nukes: they make such a mess out of a properly and patiently build up landscape. And then there's an ethical/reality aspect: is using nukes possible in real life? Well, let's hope we won't find out again ... chances exist most of peoples around the globe wouldn't be able to play anymore and that would be a waste, wouldn't it?

So I NEVER use nukes, nor will I ever build the Manhattan Project.

As a matter of fact I will wage a full military campaign to the evil civ that starts building the Project itself, destroying the city where it was initially being constructed. Guaranteed fun and ... a warning for all other civs to not use/build these evil instruments of mass destruction.

All my games (playing 6 months already) have been 100% NUKE FREE.

I like it that way.

AJ

	19-05-2002 18:09									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Coracle I changed my mind. I CAN think of a time I would use nukes: on Firaxcis when they have the nerve to tell us we have to spend $30 for a scenario disk.

In the game, Coracle. In the game... IŽll give you 0.5 points for inventive whining though...

	19-05-2002 18:11									#41
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick Now Coracle. You can just not buy it. No reason to get nasty. OTOH, I would use a nuke if I heard Firaxis was making SMAC2. Pre-emptive strike would save a lot of complaining later.

SMAC2 without Brian Reynolds? The horror, the horror...

	19-05-2002 18:15									#42
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quote: Originally posted by AJ Corp. The FAIR From the years of playing civ2 I have learned to dislike using nukes: they make such a mess out of a properly and patiently build up landscape. And then there's an ethical/reality aspect: is using nukes possible in real life? Well, let's hope we won't find out again ... chances exist most of peoples around the globe wouldn't be able to play anymore and that would be a waste, wouldn't it? So I NEVER use nukes, nor will I ever build the Manhattan Project. As a matter of fact I will wage a full military campaign to the evil civ that starts building the Project itself, destroying the city where it was initially being constructed. Guaranteed fun and ... a warning for all other civs to not use/build these evil instruments of mass destruction. All my games (playing 6 months already) have been 100% NUKE FREE. I like it that way. AJ

Come on AJ itŽs just a game... I donŽt even like war in RL. Not to mention sacrificing your citizens to build a temple or whatever. Nukes have a strategic value in Civ. Not using them is stupid IMO.

	19-05-2002 19:58									#43
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news up-date of my current game, it seem me and Babylon have a nuclear arms race! I'm planning on making it rain nukes on Babylon, i'll only target the citys with nukes in mind!

It seems babylon is the only civ to declare war if i nuke anybody else, cept they have quite a few. I suppose Clarksons theory is correct, the moment one person has one, everybody else needs one for sheer self defense!

	19-05-2002 20:21									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X Come on AJ itŽs just a game... I donŽt even like war in RL. Not to mention sacrificing your citizens to build a temple or whatever. Nukes have a strategic value in Civ. Not using them is stupid IMO.

I can win on emp and deity without using them, Kamrat, so I don't think it's stupid at all.

Regarding the 'it's just a game' you're right of course.

For gameplay reasons I just hate these nukes and they DON'T add any importance for me. (in a winning SP game they're will be NO nukes for anyone, as I won't allow them )

AJ

	19-05-2002 20:49									#45
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In one game the English annoyed me for some reason. They only had about 10 cities left on a fairly small island, while I was controlling most of the world. So with my spare nukes, I hit each city at least once, and some units out in the open. That way each and every square of English soil started radiating (had pollution on it).

Even better, the French decided to punish my distinct lack of compassion, and launched 5 nukes at some of my major cities. Bless the SDI, none of them hit

	19-05-2002 20:54									#46
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I've never needed to build nukes in any games I've played so far. Mostly because I usually won before that time. My current game I'm gonna build up a load of nukes and see what happens tho

In civ2 the only only time I'd ever use nukes is if someone was ahead of me in Spaceship construction.

Or if they nuked me.

Or if I was attacking them and there was this huge city with massive defense that I just couldn't break.

Or if I saw a large part of there army was within nuking range of eachother.

Or if I wanted to see that cool explosion again

So basically I use nukes whenever I want to.

	19-05-2002 21:19									#47
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I always keep large stockpile of nukes, i qoute from the mouse pad! "My words are backed with nuclear weapons"

	19-05-2002 21:33									#48
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quote: Originally posted by HazieDaVampire I always keep large stockpile of nukes, i qoute from the mouse pad! "My words are backed with nuclear weapons"

hi ,

and it does wonders on your "power" score , ........

have a nice day

	19-05-2002 21:39									#49
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lol, i'm worth 3 average civs in my current game. The only reason i find it hard to invade is cuz it takes so long for my transporters to go from my land to theirs. But i have a load now, so i can ferry my units about like a giant moves his feet

	19-05-2002 21:47									#50
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quote: Originally posted by HazieDaVampire lol, i'm worth 3 average civs in my current game. The only reason i find it hard to invade is cuz it takes so long for my transporters to go from my land to theirs. But i have a load now, so i can ferry my units about like a giant moves his feet

hi ,

you could always get a base on the other side of that ocean , ....

and rebase a lot of airpower , ..........

it also seems that the AI like's to go after city's that have nuke's , ..........;maybe the AI has a survival instinct , ........

have a nice day

	19-05-2002 21:49									#51
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Yeah, i have a few bases their, but they are scatered, this is jew to me attacking mighty citys till only one crappy riflemen is left, then some other civ sends a modern armor over their in thier turn and takes it!

	19-05-2002 21:55									#52
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quote: Originally posted by HazieDaVampire Yeah, i have a few bases their, but they are scatered, this is jew to me attacking mighty citys till only one crappy riflemen is left, then some other civ sends a modern armor over their in thier turn and takes it!

hi ,

editor , put at least 2 on heli , then rebase , and some airpower to keep them occupied , until your armor arrive's over sea , .......

have a nice day

	19-05-2002 21:57									#53
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lol, i've been getting loads of edittor tips after i started my game, the only thing i've editted was making the worker jobs quicker!

	19-05-2002 22:03									#54
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quote: Originally posted by HazieDaVampire lol, i've been getting loads of edittor tips after i started my game, the only thing i've editted was making the worker jobs quicker!

hi ,

its not neede if you make a team of 4 , and have democracy

also , use carriers , just to create havoc behind the lines , make the carrier hold 10-12 planes , ............

also , use subs to block trade , ......

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	19-05-2002 22:18									#55
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all my subs are on seak and destroy missions, i'm currently trying to find a greek nuclear sub in the north near the ice caps!

	19-05-2002 22:20									#56
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quote: Originally posted by AJ Corp. The FAIR I can win on emp and deity without using them, Kamrat, so I don't think it's stupid at all. Regarding the 'it's just a game' you're right of course. For gameplay reasons I just hate these nukes and they DON'T add any importance for me. (in a winning SP game they're will be NO nukes for anyone, as I won't allow them ) AJ

If it works for you, who am I to argue?

	19-05-2002 22:23									#57
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quote: Originally posted by HazieDaVampire all my subs are on seak and destroy missions, i'm currently trying to find a greek nuclear sub in the north near the ice caps!

hi ,

espionage , ............

be care full , put subs near you , and a couple carriers aswell , to fly recon , ........the range of the missile is no more the 8 , .....
still , dont let it get to close , .......;

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	19-05-2002 22:25									#58
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hehe, i'm more worried about it stopping my merchant shipping (transporters carrying workers and settlers to some free land i've found)

	19-05-2002 22:28									#59
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quote: Originally posted by HazieDaVampire hehe, i'm more worried about it stopping my merchant shipping (transporters carrying workers and settlers to some free land i've found)

hi ,

that is why you should station some ships every so many squares , and put some escorts with them and with your carriers , .....

and that sub , if you go to war , nuke it , ..................that takes care of that , ..........

have a nice day

	19-05-2002 22:31									#60
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does it cause polution if i nuke water squares? and I wasn't sure if nukes could kill subs.