26-05-2002 21:14									#91
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And as for Suker, just how old is he now? 34? 35? He wasn't good enough for West Ham two seasons ago, so I hardly think he's going to do as well in the World Cup as he fluked in 1998. Croatia were rather fortunate that year, this year the will be shown for what they really are .

	27-05-2002 00:01									#92
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World Champ: Argentina (Vamos Vamos Argentina!)
Top Scorer: Batistuta (w00t!)
Group Winners:
A. France
B. Spain
C. Brazil
D. Portugal (was going to be my upset champ choice)
E. Germany
F. Argentina (with a 4-1 victory over the Limeys in Sapporo June 7)
G. Italy
H. Tunisia

As for the matches....perhaps later when I have more time.

	27-05-2002 00:09									#93
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Funny how the group picks vary only with group H (besides those nuts who think England over Argentina, but I am sure the gas company noticed the fumes and is sending over a team now).

	27-05-2002 00:17									#94
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It would be irony if France came second to Senegal in their group and Argentina deliberate lost to Sweden in the final match to come second in the group.

	27-05-2002 00:17									#95
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Where are you from, Gopher?

	27-05-2002 00:25									#96
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII Vugrinec is the one from Lecce?

Yup! He plays in Lecce!
Him and Chevanton did pretty well this year, the problem with Vugrinec (as I stated before) is that he plays good only once in a while, but when he's in shape he is really good.

Saluti

	27-05-2002 00:27									#97
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Gopher: did you see my picks?

	27-05-2002 00:28									#98
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quote: Originally posted by mordhiem Had a bit too much to drink Mercator? On the Italy debate, Nesta and Cannavaro are world class and a front three of Totti, Vieri, Del Piero/Inzaghi will score for fun their midfield is adequate, the lack of a real playmaker and a tough ballwinner (Tommasi and Di Bagio are not top ballwinners IMHO) could scupper them. But look at the draw and you'll see they have a ridiculously easy route to the final (Argentina, France, Brazil and England are in the other half of the draw), only a possible semi with Portugal or Spain could casue problems, but they could comfortably beat them.

Tommasi and Di Biagio are leg-destroyers, they kick everything that is above the grass, they don't care if it is the ball or the leg.
I don't like them.
Somebody like Perrotta, Ambrosini or Conte would have been way better than this two.

Saluti

	27-05-2002 00:30									#99
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World Champion: Brazil

Top scorer: Batistuta

Group winners:

A Denmark
B Spain
C Brazil
D Poland
E Republic of Ireland
F England
G Italy
H Russia

A 31-05 13:30 France - Senegal (Seoul) 1-1
A 01-06 11:00 Uruguay - Denmark (Ulsan) 0-2
B 02-06 09:30 Paraguay - South Africa (Busan) 1-1
B 02-06 13:30 Spain - Slovenia (Gwangju) 1-0
C 03-06 11:00 Brazil - Turkey (Ulsan) 2-0
C 04-06 08:30 China PR - Costa Rica (Gwangju) 0-2
D 04-06 13:30 Korea Republic - Poland (Busan) 0-2
D 05-06 11:00 USA - Portugal (Suwon) 1-1
E 01-06 08:30 Republic of Ireland - Cameroon (Niigata) 1-0
E 01-06 13:30 Germany - Saudi Arabia (Sapporo) 0-0
F 02-06 11:30 England - Sweden (Saitama) 2-0
F 02-06 14:30 Argentina - Nigeria (Ibaraki) 1-0
G 03-06 08:30 Croatia - Mexico (Niigata) 1-1
G 03-06 13:30 Italy - Ecuador (Sapporo) 0-0
H 04-06 11:00 Japan - Belgium (Saitama) 0-2
H 05-06 08:30 Russia - Tunisia (Kobe) 1-1

Good job as always Paul.

	27-05-2002 04:56									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee Where are you from, Gopher?

From Texas, live in MI, Family is Argentinian. Hating the Brits in football is in my blood

	27-05-2002 05:33									#101
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quote: Originally posted by gopher ...besides those nuts who think England over Argentina, ...

There will be no God's hand as in 1986 fo the second time. Therefore England will beat Argentina.

	27-05-2002 05:41									#102
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quote: Originally posted by The Vagabond There will be no God's hand as in 1986 fo the second time. Therefore England will beat Argentina.

And also no Gareth Southgate =)

	27-05-2002 07:33									#103
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quote: Originally posted by The Vagabond There will be no God's hand as in 1986 fo the second time. Therefore England will beat Argentina.

Yeah, well that was for using Sea Marines in the Falklands. It's even.

	27-05-2002 18:23									#104
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All you French fans - time for a re-think. Zidane is out for two games, according to the BBC.

	27-05-2002 18:26									#105
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Wount make a difference imho. They will just have to manage with center midfielders like Makelele, Viera and Petit. Those poor frenchmen.

	27-05-2002 18:47									#106
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two games? who cares? Even if the french used a B-team they'd get passed the first round.

	27-05-2002 19:50									#107
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WC champions: Argentina
Top Scorer: Crespo
Group Winners:
A France
B Spain
C Brazil
D Portugal
E Cameroon
F Argentina
G Italy
H belgium

A 31-05 13:30 France - Senegal (Seoul) 4-0
A 01-06 11:00 Uruguay - Denmark (Ulsan) 1-2
B 02-06 09:30 Paraguay - South Africa (Busan) 1-2
B 02-06 13:30 Spain - Slovenia (Gwangju) 3-0
C 03-06 11:00 Brazil - Turkey (Ulsan) 1-1
C 04-06 08:30 China PR - Costa Rica (Gwangju) 0-1
D 04-06 13:30 Korea Republic - Poland (Busan) 3-2
D 05-06 11:00 USA - Portugal (Suwon) 0-2
E 01-06 08:30 Republic of Ireland - Cameroon (Niigata) 0-0
E 01-06 13:30 Germany - Saudi Arabia (Sapporo) 1-1
F 02-06 11:30 England - Sweden (Saitama) 0-0
F 02-06 14:30 Argentina - Nigeria (Ibaraki) 2-2
G 03-06 08:30 Croatia - Mexico (Niigata) 1-2
G 03-06 13:30 Italy - Ecuador (Sapporo) 1-1
H 04-06 11:00 Japan - Belgium (Saitama) 0-3
H 05-06 08:30 Russia - Tunisia (Kobe) 0-1

	27-05-2002 22:40									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni And also no Gareth Southgate =)

1996 joke:

Q: Whats the quickest way out at Wembley
A: Via Southgate.

	27-05-2002 22:44									#109
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WC champions: Argentina
Top Scorer: Diego Tristán (Spain)

Group Winners:
A France
B Spain
C Brazil
D Portugal
E Germany
F Argentina
G Italy
H Belgium

A 31-05 13:30 France - Senegal (Seoul) 2-1
A 01-06 11:00 Uruguay - Denmark (Ulsan) 1-1
B 02-06 09:30 Paraguay - South Africa (Busan) 1-1
B 02-06 13:30 Spain - Slovenia (Gwangju) 2-1
C 03-06 11:00 Brazil - Turkey (Ulsan) 1-0
C 04-06 08:30 China PR - Costa Rica (Gwangju) 1-0
D 04-06 13:30 Korea Republic - Poland (Busan) 1-1
D 05-06 11:00 USA - Portugal (Suwon) 1-3
E 01-06 08:30 Republic of Ireland - Cameroon (Niigata) 1-1
E 01-06 13:30 Germany - Saudi Arabia (Sapporo) 2-0
F 02-06 11:30 England - Sweden (Saitama) 2-1
F 02-06 14:30 Argentina - Nigeria (Ibaraki) 2-1
G 03-06 08:30 Croatia - Mexico (Niigata) 2-2
G 03-06 13:30 Italy - Ecuador (Sapporo) 1-0
H 04-06 11:00 Japan - Belgium (Saitama) 1-2
H 05-06 08:30 Russia - Tunisia (Kobe) 2-1

	28-05-2002 00:05									#110
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Yaroslav : we gave you a fair fight . . It's just that hierro wounded our goalie . we shall never forget !.

	28-05-2002 01:42									#111
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quote: Originally posted by Dalgetti Yaroslav : we gave you a fair fight . . It's just that hierro wounded our goalie . we shall never forget !.

Hierro has wounded many player many times

He is one the best defenders of Spain, but he is getting sometime a little violent in his last years...

	28-05-2002 01:56									#113
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Yes. That is not good

I hope the next World Cup you will be in!

	28-05-2002 02:28									#114
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I hope so as well. our clubs have been increasingly successfull in the last years, peaking with this season. Hapoel Tel Aviv has reached the quarter finals of the UEFA cup. half of our national squad plays abroad. But we always get Austria and Spain for some reason. we're a bit better than Austria, but qualifying from second place means play-offs with another team . three years ago we got our asses handed to us on a plate by denmark.

	28-05-2002 02:50									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Dalgetti I hope so as well. our clubs have been increasingly successfull in the last years, peaking with this season. Hapoel Tel Aviv has reached the quarter finals of the UEFA cup. .

I know that

quote: Originally posted by Dalgetti But we always get Austria and Spain for some reason. we're a bit better than Austria, but qualifying from second place means play-offs with another team . three years ago we got our asses handed to us on a plate by denmark.

Yes. I think that Austria is worse than you, withouth offense to austrians...

	28-05-2002 03:03									#116
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quote: Had a bit too much to drink Mercator?

Nope:
1. In contrast with everybody else here, I'm not a football expert (or pretend to be one). Outside of the World Cup, or Euro Cup football hardly interests me at all.
2. There are always surprises, and as I'm always for the underdogs, I simply hope there will be plenty of surprises.
3a. I felt like annoying Saint Marcus
3b. Just a little wishfull analysis...

quote: two games? who cares? Even if the french used a B-team they'd get passed the first round.

France has failed to impress me of late. They lost to Belgium 2-1 and they only managed a meager win of 3-2 over South Korea. If that's the team you're talking about, it doesn't look very good.

	28-05-2002 14:38									#117
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*bump*

Still a few days left. Post your predictions now damn it!

	28-05-2002 15:23									#118
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France are ten thousand miles from home. Don't expect as much out of them as last time. Semi-finals, maybe.

As for the first round, I'm picking Croatia to be eliminated and one of Mexico or Ecuador to qualify from that group.

	28-05-2002 16:28									#119
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Every team with any possiblity at all to reach the semi-finals are ten thousand miles from home, give or take a few thousand. That will hardly change France's chances. It's the same for everybody.

	28-05-2002 16:59									#120
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Great job Paul! Now, how about a FC Zwolle in de Eredivisie Prediction Thread

World Cup Champion: Argentina
Top scorer: Emmanuel Olisadebe (Poland) , no really!
Group winners

A: France
B: Spain
C: Brazil
D: Poland
E: Cameroon
F: Argentina
G: Italy
H: Russia

A 31-05 13:30 France - Senegal (Seoul) 2-1
A 01-06 11:00 Uruguay - Denmark (Ulsan) 1-1
B 02-06 09:30 Paraguay - South Africa (Busan) 2-1
B 02-06 13:30 Spain - Slovenia (Gwangju) 2-1
C 03-06 11:00 Brazil - Turkey (Ulsan) 1-1
C 04-06 08:30 China PR - Costa Rica (Gwangju) 1-2
D 04-06 13:30 Korea Republic - Poland (Busan) 0-2
D 05-06 11:00 USA - Portugal (Suwon) 1-3
E 01-06 08:30 Republic of Ireland - Cameroon (Niigata) 1-3
E 01-06 13:30 Germany - Saudi Arabia (Sapporo) 2-0
F 02-06 11:30 England - Sweden (Saitama) 2-1
F 02-06 14:30 Argentina - Nigeria (Ibaraki) 3-1
G 03-06 08:30 Croatia - Mexico (Niigata) 1-1
G 03-06 13:30 Italy - Ecuador (Sapporo) 1-0
H 04-06 11:00 Japan - Belgium (Saitama) 1-1
H 05-06 08:30 Russia - Tunisia (Kobe) 2-0

This is so bizarre! I'm actually starting to get excited about the WC! Now that Holland is not in, I'm hoping for an African surprise!
Ánd I hope for a game between the USA and Saudi Arabia. Does anybody remember how Iran beat the USA 4 years ago? ROFLMAO back then!