02-06-2002 21:11									#61
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I thought CommonWealth citizens could freely immigrate to other CommonWelath countries.

I believe its up to 2 years working permit for CommonWealth citizens. Which puts some perspective on a few of the more inflammatory comments.

	02-06-2002 21:21									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny Incidentally, it's "dissent", not "decent".

What a pompous ass.

	02-06-2002 21:32									#63
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Laz isn't the slightest bit pompous.

	02-06-2002 22:09									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Spartak Laz isn't the slightest bit pompous.

Really, I have always found him to be that way. With a certain amount of self-righteousness thrown in for good measure.

	02-06-2002 22:22									#65
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Aw, don't be like that. It's always a shame when a clown gets cross and shirty. Make 'em laugh!

	02-06-2002 22:59									#66
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Laz, surely you would agree that it is better for Britain to accept immigrants who speak the language over those who don't.

	02-06-2002 23:04									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny Aw, don't be like that. It's always a shame when a clown gets cross and shirty. Make 'em laugh!

.... ...I seem to remember you doing a bit of entertain yourself on occasion.

	02-06-2002 23:08									#68
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney Laz, surely you would agree that it is better for Britain to accept immigrants who speak the language over those who don't.

You expect a straight answer? Look back on this thread and see (amongst his attempts at putting people down) if he's actually made any kind of suggestion about what Britain's policy with asylum seekers should be.

	02-06-2002 23:12									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's You expect a straight answer? Look back on this thread and see (amongst his attempts at putting people down) if he's actually made any kind of suggestion about what Britain's policy with asylum seekers should be.

Its a pointless exercise.

	03-06-2002 00:03									#70
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney Laz, surely you would agree that it is better for Britain to accept immigrants who speak the language over those who don't.

This is a digression, because my concern is over asylum seekers. For them, the test should not involve language tests. Would you send someone back to torture if they couldn't speak English?

Having said that, we apply no language tests to EU citizens, and they seem to manage.

	03-06-2002 00:08									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's You expect a straight answer? Look back on this thread and see (amongst his attempts at putting people down) if he's actually made any kind of suggestion about what Britain's policy with asylum seekers should be.

Other than my continually stated thoughts that the blanket condemnations by Little Englanders are a bad thing?

Believe it or not, I think our current policies are pretty good. It's not governmental policy I'm attacking- it's media demonisation, and casual slaggings by people like your good self.

I hate to state the obvious, but I have to in your case. Would you like me to use smaller words in future?

	03-06-2002 00:16									#72
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Spink and Blackstone should form a tag-team. Spink would look dead foxy in spandex.

	03-06-2002 00:20									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny This is a digression, because my concern is over asylum seekers. For them, the test should not involve language tests. Would you send someone back to torture if they couldn't speak English? Having said that, we apply no language tests to EU citizens, and they seem to manage.

Again another exaggeration and more emotive language. Asylum seekers will not be deported, turned away, or in anyway affected by their lack of spoken English. The proposal was, as I understand it, that those who are seeking refuge in this country will be asked to take English speaking lessons. Now I would have thought that this would be of immense help to them. Making settling in easier, and giving them a better start in their new country.

For all of the talk earlier about the Daily Mail I should be surprised to see the amount of scare mongering rhetoric in the above quote, but sadly I am not. It follows the initial statement in vein and vacuity.

Its the same as the Tories during an election, nothing to say of any real substance so lets dress it up and scare them into believing in us.

A poor show by the disenfranchised left, socialist worker would be proud.

	03-06-2002 00:22									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny Spink and Blackstone should form a tag-team. Spink would look dead foxy in spandex.

..... ..spandex eh.

	03-06-2002 00:23									#75
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I hate to disappint you Blackstone, but that was nothing compared to Bugs' post. He has you beat by far.

	03-06-2002 00:25									#76
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quote: Originally posted by BlackStone Again another exaggeration and more emotive language. Asylum seekers will not be deported, turned away, or in anyway affected by their lack of spoken English. The proposal was, as I understand it, that those who are seeking refuge in this country will be asked to take English speaking lessons. Now I would have thought that this would be of immense help to them. Making settling in easier, and giving them a better start in their new country.

Which proposal was this? Certainly not one I've referred to at any point. Are you going off on some weird tangent again?

Again, you're confusing policy with media. Again, I'll point out that our current policy with asylum seekers is one I have no problem with. Again, I'll repeat that it's media representation and ceratain threads that have appeared here that I'm addressing.

Hint- try reading the thread. It'll help.

	03-06-2002 00:26									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger That doesn't work.

I'm aware of that; this was part satire after all...

quote: First off, not all Asians look like Japaneses, you have to be East Asians to have half a chance. Secondly, Koreans look differently from Japaneses from Chinese, even if only subtly so.

Well doesn't the same apply to Britain? You'd have to be of Northern or Western European descent for the same thing to work in Britain; I would suspect that people of Southern or Eastern European descent (except maybe Ukrainians) would have the same problems.

quote: You don't have a chance unless you look Japanese and speak native Japanese.

Again, aren't we talking the same thing with respect to Britain? If anything, it's probably easier for people from a wider range of backgrounds to get into Britain than into Japan. We make such a fuss about how difficult it is for people to immigrate to "white" countries, yet the most difficult places to immigrate to are not in fact white but asian - Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, maybe Taiwan and South Korea (exception for S. Korea - North Koreans are allowed in without restriction, as in W. Germany and E. Germany of old). Why are there not sensitivity campaigns about asian racism and nativism? Where are all the people who think diversity is such a good idea when it comes to prosperous asian countries? Surely there must be plenty of Africans, other Asians and south Asians (Iranians and Afghans, for example) that would love to go to Japan. Why should they prefer Australia to Japan?

quote: Besides, Koreans don't open bars in Japan, neither do the Chinese.

What's that got to do with it?

	03-06-2002 00:29									#78
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As I'm suffering from a terminal case of lazyass, has anyone asked the question about why anyone would want to enter, and remain, legally OR illegally?

	03-06-2002 00:31									#79
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quote: surely you would agree that it is better for Britain to accept immigrants who speak the language over those who don't.

Actually, it's better if the state would get out of the business of telling people where to live and where not to live.

	03-06-2002 00:32									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion I hate to disappint you Blackstone, but that was nothing compared to Bugs' post. He has you beat by far.

Talking of tag teams. I fail to see your point (presuming that is that you have a point), I am arguing a point. You don't (and you may want to take some notes here it might help you in later life) simply give up an argument because you opponent comes back with some (sharp) put downs (especially when they have consistently avoided the argument). You argue your case with vigour.

Now I appreciate that you want to ingratiate yourself with him, but jeering from the sidelines isn't going to improve your long term standing with anyone.

Thank you for your thought (I know how painful they can be for people like you).

	03-06-2002 00:33									#81
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I'm not argueing, BS. I'll just have you know you suck at this stuff.

Smiley overuse is a sign of bad posting abilities.

	03-06-2002 00:39									#83
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I'm the one standing next to the court in the audience shouting random comments at the guys.

	03-06-2002 00:40									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny Which proposal was this? Certainly not one I've referred to at any point. Are you going off on some weird tangent again? Again, you're confusing policy with media. Again, I'll point out that our current policy with asylum seekers is one I have no problem with. Again, I'll repeat that it's media representation and ceratain threads that have appeared here that I'm addressing. Hint- try reading the thread. It'll help.

Trying to be condescending again. Anyway I am talking about the proposals put forward by our Home Secretary for English lessons for people emigrating or seeking asylum in this country.
The actual policy not phantoms in the press (or indeed your head). Again another attempt to move the goal posts to hide the hideous holes in your rant.

I await (with great expectation)your explanations of the minutiae of the underlying meaning of you post.

	03-06-2002 00:41									#85
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A bored smiley... a desperate attempt to imitate Horse in order to "be the cooler troll".

Look my friend, this is a serious debate, your patronizing flames don't get you anywhere.

	03-06-2002 00:46									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion I'm the one standing next to the court in the audience shouting random comments at the guys.

Did you just stick your tongue out at me?

	03-06-2002 00:46									#87
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And what if?

	03-06-2002 00:50									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion A bored smiley... a desperate attempt to imitate Horse in order to "be the cooler troll". Look my friend, this is a serious debate, your patronizing flames don't get you anywhere.

A serious debate... ...take a look at some of your contributions. You really beggar belief.
I am sorry that I have upset you but throwing a tantrum isn't going to get us anywhere. How about some views on the subject, that might be novel.

	03-06-2002 00:55									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion And what if?

Sorry for a moment then I was taking you seriously.

	03-06-2002 00:57									#90
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That's OK.