11-06-2002 05:21									#1
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Okay, in the chatroom people have suggested we have governors, which advise the minsters on what should be done with individual cities and provinces. Provinces would be created depending on geographic region by either vote or at the President's discretion.

This poll will close on Saturday, June 15th.

Last edited by Trip on 11-06-2002 at 22:59

	11-06-2002 05:39									#2
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This was originally in the CivFanatics Demo Game, and while generally any and all things related to CivFanatics are by definition evil, in this case I think it's a good idea.

	11-06-2002 07:04									#3
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The people are the ones who look at the maps and make suggestions to the president and other ministers. To make another office that would, in effect, be the people would be a waste of time and space.

	11-06-2002 07:21									#4
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I agree with Space05us. It would definitely be a waste of time.

	11-06-2002 07:30									#5
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I must agree for now it would be pointless. But maybe down the road we could institute such a thing, when we have more cities...

	11-06-2002 07:46									#6
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BIg waste. If necessary later we can add them, just like we can add any new posts, but for now they'll just clutter stuff up...

It looks like everyone who's voted no has explained, whereas just one of the 7 who voted yes have given any reasons

	11-06-2002 08:17									#7
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I agree, if we do it now it would only waste time, but i do thik we should implement it later when we have many cities.

	11-06-2002 08:25									#8
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The nay-sayers are catching up.
I don't really mind either way to be honest.

	11-06-2002 16:04									#9
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Yes, but not before we have at least 6 cities, and only as a test first

What option should I vote for then?

	11-06-2002 16:07									#10
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Yes, because many things can be done by governors (micro-management of citizens, organizational things like maps etc.)

	11-06-2002 16:10									#11
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I voted no. If it turns out that they are needed later than they can be added.

	11-06-2002 16:32									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Moral Hazard I voted no. If it turns out that they are needed later than they can be added.

Then I vote no as well. Because I don't want them in from start.

	11-06-2002 18:04									#13
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Well now, I've never seen quite a comeback!
Though I must say, it can be attributed to the fact that the people who supported it in the chatroom voted first when I told them about it, and everyone else voted later once they saw it.

	11-06-2002 18:55									#14
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What about having one of the ministers or the vice president govern the first province? then we would have other governors later on, as provinces are added (no provinces, no governors) [i know this from somewhere, but somehow i cant remember].
changing the rules later on will surely confuse things.

	11-06-2002 18:58									#15
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uhh...i think the city planner's job essentially makes him governor of everything...

	12-06-2002 00:04									#16
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No.
Perhaps this should be considered at a later date when provincial governors would be needed.

	12-06-2002 00:48									#17
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Yes, it was intended to be at a later date. A governor would give reports on just a certain region.

	12-06-2002 02:53									#18
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Voted yes, because it will help the ministers when there will be many many cities to manage. I think we should create them from the beginning of the game, to see how it works. They don't have to be in the turn chat, they can PM ministers or prez during the wainting bw turns

	12-06-2002 02:54									#19
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Everyone vote yes.

We need to catch up.

	12-06-2002 02:56									#20
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Everyone vote no

We need to stay ahead

	12-06-2002 02:58									#21
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BAD MORAL HAZARD! (sends moral hazard to sit in the corner)

	12-06-2002 06:05									#22
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Is it ethical to agree with Moral Hazard?

	12-06-2002 06:31									#23
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Moral Hazard is an economics term actual so unless your a comunist yes

Example:
If someone is insured against say unemployment they are more likely to do things which will allow them to be unemployed. Or say if you screw up, your parents will bail you out your more likely to screw up.

	12-06-2002 06:34									#24
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BIG FAT

ANOTHER FOR GOOD MEASURE

	12-06-2002 06:45									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Moral Hazard Moral Hazard is an economics term actual so unless your a comunist yes

What if I'm a socialist/marxist?

	12-06-2002 07:50									#26
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I dislike labels do you agree that the follow example is correct? The real question I think, is not whether it is correct but how much effect it has.

For Example:
Having car insurance isn't going to make you crash your car.

	12-06-2002 12:41									#27
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We don't need no stinckin' gov'nors. All power to the Soviets!

	12-06-2002 15:42									#28
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No. At least not until the modern era.

If we have tens of cities then governors will be useful, but in early and mid-game it'll only complicate the game.

	15-06-2002 00:48									#29
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No. Useless. Maybe later.

	15-06-2002 08:38									#30
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*Tries to think of why so many people support governors.*

Remember people, things we decide now, will be implimented now. Do you really want governors running around when we only have 3 cities, but 4 times the number of Senators to run them?