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Smith, Wesson, and the RODINA!!!
Mar 2002
time: 23:20
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Originally posted by 0hwell
I guess I cheated because it is just so hard to play when you can't take any cities with your current unit types.
Okay Case I think the point has been made...
Boy you sure are nice.  I would just love to play with you in other games.
And I thought Steve was talking about the turn when I took Bangkok, which WAS valid. The turn before was not.
If you still want me to play I will not in this game because of Ceteram's unnecesary comment. |
 This is surreal. Let me break it down for you: cheating is generally frowned upon.  I never thought I'd have to say something that obvious. This 'yeah yeah yeah whatever, can we play now?' attitude isn't helping. And there's no such thing as 'kinda' cheating.
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Originally posted by 0hwell
Darius, your Insurrection point is moot because even Kobayashi, the maker of the damn scenario, said it was entirely possible. Gunships apparenlty can kill 2 Imperators. I believe the second instance you are talking about is when I killed an Imperator with TIE fighters, which is an entirely possible instance. |
Sigh, thanks for making me waste half an hour of my time. Here goes:
There are two turns in question, 48 and 53. In turn 48 I'm 99% sure he cheated, but in turn 53 it is 100%, an absolute smoking gun. Before I go into them, here they all are, with the passwords removed, so that anyone who wants to can take a look for themselves; I would definitely like a second opinion:
 Attachment: insurrection turns.zip
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Last edited by Darius871 on 16-12-2002 at 07:28
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Darius871
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Smith, Wesson, and the RODINA!!!
Mar 2002
time: 23:20
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Turn 48
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Originally posted by Ohwell
Stupid Pacifists leave their damn droids. I guess that's bad news for you Darius because they will begin their attack very soon.
- Spectacular victory over the Imperium! TWO, yes, TWO ISD's destroyed near Selonia with one hidden unit, all destroyed by a Correlian Gunship. More are coming from my Mobile Fleet so I'd suggest retreating from the entire Correlian sector. |
As you all can see in the screenshot attached, the gunship in question was non-veteran and the two ISD’s are veteran. That is 19 vs 24, and the gunship won twice! Any of you can try to recreate this result, it’s downright impossible. I tried it FIFTY times without killing both Imperators. If the gunship were veteran his result would have been possible, but it clearly was not, and there were no other units in the area. A rules edit, even if it was a minor edit, must have happened here.
 Attachment: turn 48.jpg
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Darius871
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Smith, Wesson, and the RODINA!!!
Mar 2002
time: 23:20
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Another way of proving that the turn report was false is the casualty report. As you can see in both the screenshot and the files, before his attack 5 gunships had been lost in the game, and after his attack 5 gunships had been lost in the game. The turn report was false.
Now one could say that maybe the post was just propaganda, but the fact remains that it would have taken 3-8 non-veteran gunships to kill that stack (with all but the last one being kamikazes). He only had two in range, and they both survived. Cheating occurred in turn 53, period.
Attachment: casualties.jpg
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Last edited by Darius871 on 16-12-2002 at 07:25
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Ceteram
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G. D. of Luxembourg
Feb 2001
time: 06:20
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Lets do not waste our time trying to catch up where Ohwells parents missed out.
Instead we should get on with the game: He have to fix it and find a new player for France, right?
Any takers?
By the way, I'm going to Switzerland from 22/12 - 02/01,
and I'm trying to get my mobile phone and labtop running and configured so I can continue to participate directly. Otherwise, somebody'll have to play for me: JamesJKirk could you possibly do this?
Last edited by Ceteram on 16-12-2002 at 13:13
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germanos
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behind a firm ****, Rotterdam, NL
Apr 2002
time: 06:20
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If you guys decide to give Timbuktu and Bangkok to the Neutrals, me and someone of you guys could agree to meet online. I'll play as the french, the other as the Neutrals. I could give the fFrench cities online to the Neutrals.
Save and Exit.
Post file for the French.
Game on.
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germanos
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behind a firm ****, Rotterdam, NL
Apr 2002
time: 06:20
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PM send to Darius
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germanos
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behind a firm ****, Rotterdam, NL
Apr 2002
time: 06:20
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OK, according to Darius instructions (Thank you, Darius !)
this should work.
Japan is the next in line to play.
Timbuktu and Bangkok given to the Neutrals.
City improvements restored to the situartion as was at the beginning of the scenario.
Units in the cities restored as well.
NOTE: although independent cities, troops garrisonning the cities are Native Rifles, Native horses and Cannons, where applicable (sp?)
Now get a French player guys!
Bump for Japan
Attachment: rusnew.zip
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16-12-2002 01:24
) and in the Republic savegame that BOTH of those gunships are still alive! 
Wake up call!
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