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Prince
Bavaria (Fanatika)
Jun 2002
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as first thing, i would like to push ppl to organizer this forum.
to the mods:
can we get subforums here? how many can we get?

example:
1 subforum each for:
polls:
only polls allowed there
government:
only departments and provicial threads allowed there
informational:
informational threads, like history, citizen list, savegames etc.
archive:
all obsolete threads (e.g. old elections) can be moved there

we would also urgently need a thread for requesting mods to top threads or do other things for us (like move threads)


thats all for now. your ideas? also mod-comments welcome!

beno is offline beno
Chieftain
Brighton
Mar 2002
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damn right.
all the polls in one spot and regular updates plz. During play we will need a citizen information channel for viewing of screen shots, reports etc. - I'm new to this, but what a damn fine idea that was.

Franses is offline Franses
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Aug 2000
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  Old Post 11-06-2002 17:29
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I support this idea. It is hard to see what you have done/read already. Organizing it a bit would help.

Moral Hazard is offline Moral Hazard
King
of jack
Jul 1999
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  Old Post 11-06-2002 17:48
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A good Idea at present things are very hard to follow. As far as I can tell nothing has been decided yet.

Trip is offline Trip
Firaxis Games
Hunt Valley
Apr 2002
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You should have made a poll.

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Prince
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Jun 2002
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  Old Post 11-06-2002 18:23
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I agree, and one very important thing is to make a sub-forum for all the polls that have been made actual decisions...everything just seem to bee a big mess now...

Gramphos is offline Gramphos
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Chalmers, Sweden
Apr 2001
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  Old Post 11-06-2002 18:37
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Good ideas, but I don't think things has got out of hands yet, and I doubt Ming will be willing to move threads in here all the time.

I say that we let it be for a while. It't just very mush in the beginning. If things don't get better we might have to ask Markos.

Space05us is offline Space05us
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Nov 2001
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  Old Post 11-06-2002 18:40
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unnecesary, I've found it easy to keep up with everything.

civman2000 is offline civman2000
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of the Martian Empire
Jun 2001
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we would need our own moderator though...putting em all in the archive and keeping everything stright would take a lot of work to put on MarkG or Ming, with all their other stuff they have to do...

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Prince
Bavaria (Fanatika)
Jun 2002
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we could cut out the archive, thats why we discuss ;-)
and all other proposed subforums will not need moving (just 1 time at the beginning though) if we behave (means: we post things in the right places).
a own mod for the demo will be neccessary, as civ3 is much more complicated than civ2 and things will easily go out of hand (see c*v*a*a*i*s demogame).

and one thing:
things may be easy and findable now, but we still are in the pre-game phase. we will easily get more than 50 new threads a day in a hot phase of the game (like war). you will then not be able to find the new posts on the first page any more, for example.
if we start later to reorganize, things will get messy during change and ppl get disappointed and annoyed with the game.

Space05us is offline Space05us
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Nov 2001
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I highly doubt we'll get more than 15 new threads a day on a busy day. maybe well over 100 posts, but not so many threads as those that are started will be started by a minister and labled official. (most people will just go to those and skip the rest)

EDIT: what's with the stat thing below our avatar?

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Prince
Bavaria (Fanatika)
Jun 2002
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so only officials will be allowed to post threads? well, i think the most interesting threads will be the citizens-threads, as there are much more citizens than officials ;-)

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Jun 2001
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no, i think it will be less cluttered once we start...

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Nov 2001
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no, sorry if Im not entirely clear right now (I've been awake for too long, again) The important threads, such as what to research and what to attack will be started by the ministers. (at least it should work that way, as that is how it works at the Civ2 Demo-Game)

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Jun 2001
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space: i dunno...i'm baffled

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Jun 2002
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so wait and learn ;-)

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Nov 2001
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huh? about what? the stat thing?

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Jun 2001
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yep...all i know is that my stats are really high, i think they have to do with post count...

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Nov 2001
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i think so too. and by the looks of it you're close to being the next thing up.

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Originally posted by civman2000
we would need our own moderator though...putting em all in the archive and keeping everything stright would take a lot of work to put on MarkG or Ming, with all their other stuff they have to do...


How hard would it be to delegate this to someone? Im getting a headache from the gazillion threads here.

Space05us is offline Space05us
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Nov 2001
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how is it so hard to keep up on things? I have no problem with it and Im in both demo-games.

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Bavaria (Fanatika)
Jun 2002
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  Old Post 11-06-2002 19:18
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well, as i said: only the archive will need constant work of mods.
if we get a "needed" thread for the mods, we as citizens could post our requirements (move this thread [link] to the archive....etc). it would make things
a) easier for the mod(s)
b) more organized for us

Captain is offline Captain
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May 2001
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  Old Post 11-06-2002 20:14
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quote:
Originally posted by disorganizer
as first thing, i would like to push ppl to organizer this forum.
to the mods:
can we get subforums here? how many can we get?

example:
1 subforum each for:
polls:
only polls allowed there
government:
only departments and provicial threads allowed there
informational:
informational threads, like history, citizen list, savegames etc.
archive:
all obsolete threads (e.g. old elections) can be moved there

we would also urgently need a thread for requesting mods to top threads or do other things for us (like move threads)


Yes, we need organization! This nation is growing (79 citizens last I checked) and the threads can be hard to follow.

similar to you, I suggest:

GOVERNMENT:
(only ministers and govt can post here)
This provides all information and screenshots.
Historian/Reporter post here too.
Each minister has their own thread.

ELECTION & REFERENDUM POLLS:
(results of these polls are binding on ministers)

ELECTIONS:
(campaign speeches, interviews, etc...)

POLLS:
(general polls, not binding, more like information gathering)

CITIZENS FORUM:
(anything game-related, comments, politics, deals, discussions, whatever... )

ADMINISTRATIVE:
(Not immediately game-related, more like when chats are happening, forum organization, technical details, game speed, downtime, etc...)

ARCHIVE:
(archived stuff)

Space05us is offline Space05us
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Nov 2001
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  Old Post 11-06-2002 20:29
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as soon as the game has started and is underway there will be a lot less posting and no need for seperate forums for each thing. trust me on this one.

Trip is offline Trip
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Apr 2002
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Yes, agreed. The enormous disorganization, clutter and polls now are due to the setup of the game, which won't be the case later on.

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King
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Jul 1999
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  Old Post 11-06-2002 20:35
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Space and Trip are correct (check Civ2 Demo) for verification. It'll take a while to get everything sorted, but it'll be fine once it is sorted.

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Mar 1999
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I hope so. It is a bit hard to follow, especially for those of us who frequent more than one forum regularly (well, except for Space, of course).

Interesting: disorganizer is asking for things to be organized...

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One thing is that I think we should better distinguish between "elections" and general "polls"

So I like Captains proposal.

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Prince
Bavaria (Fanatika)
Jun 2002
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i would like some mod-speaking in here. how can we directly address our mod (who is it anyways?) without pming?

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Feb 2001
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  Old Post 12-06-2002 01:06
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CivFanatics does this, therefore it must be evil and sacriligious.

Seriously, though, after setup it will get a LOT better.

 
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