13-06-2002 22:58									#1
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In about a month, I'll be buying a new computer for college or rather my parents will be buying one for me.

I'm looking for something around:

2.2 mhz P4
512 Ram (DDR or RD)
80gig or better hardrive
64 meg video card or better.

I need some advice on which computer companies are most reliable and cheaper. Currently i'm looking at Gateway and Dell.

Also should i shoot for DDR or RD ram?

	13-06-2002 23:12									#2
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Build your own or get a clone.

	13-06-2002 23:46									#3
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I've you have money to burn, go Alienware.

	13-06-2002 23:49									#4
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DDR266 (PC2100) and DDR333(PC2700) are decently fast, but RDRAM is a bit faster (but tends to be more expensive).

Gateway should be cheaper than Dell (that's their new plan), but I've always preferred Dell's support and they tend to put in higher quality components as well.

	13-06-2002 23:50									#5
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I personally prefer to build my own systems, but to do that, and maintain them, you really need to have a bit of expertise with PC systems. So I don't know which company to go for because I have never used them. So really, I don't know why I bothered posting in this thread

	13-06-2002 23:51									#6
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Dell computers are a solid, dependable choice, with good support.

	14-06-2002 00:00									#7
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII Dell computers are a solid, dependable choice, with good support.

Yeah. For a while, their support seemed to go to sh|t. But I have been hearing good things about them again.

But all the same, I will always build my own, and they will most likely have DDR.

	14-06-2002 00:05									#8
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Dells are awesome, I have no complaints about mine. Never had a software conflict, technical issue or anything of the kind.

And when you open it up...it's BEAUTIFUL inside! I almost shed a tear of joy the first time I did...

	14-06-2002 00:22									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov And when you open it up...it's BEAUTIFUL inside! I almost shed a tear of joy the first time I did...

When I buy new PC games or hardware, I sit and smell the inside of the packaging.

::sniiiiiiiiiifff:: Ahhhhh!!!!

There are so many different smells for new PC games; game manuals especially.

	14-06-2002 00:51									#10
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I build my own, and I dont think its that hard to do. It can be hard to decide what you want though since there are a lot of alternatives. Doesnt Dell use their own version of windows rather than the "real thing". So it can be hard to update drivers etc.

	14-06-2002 01:17									#11
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I like the chegitz guevara brand of computer. Build myself.

	14-06-2002 01:31									#12
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BUILD YOUR OWN.

it's cheaper, more effective, and you know whats going on inside.

if your a technomoron, buy a dell or something, i dont care.

	14-06-2002 01:49									#13
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hmmm, there seems to be a consensus that building my own is the best way to go. While i probably could do this with a lil help from my cisco and A+ certified friends, my parents prolly won't go for it. I guess i'm getting a dell

	14-06-2002 02:09									#14
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You could get enough advice about what to do (or what not to do) from here. If you can change a lightbulb you can put together the parts.

	14-06-2002 02:15									#15
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Yes, but if Tis I's parents don't agree, then it doesn't matter how much help we give.

	14-06-2002 02:58									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Tis I In about a month, I'll be buying a new computer for college or rather my parents will be buying one for me. I'm looking for something around: 2.2 mhz P4 512 Ram (DDR or RD) 80gig or better hardrive 64 meg video card or better. I need some advice on which computer companies are most reliable and cheaper. Currently i'm looking at Gateway and Dell. Also should i shoot for DDR or RD ram?

hi ,

go Apple , alias Mac , .....

have a nice day

	14-06-2002 03:08									#17
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Buy ban Hangyvenzenyl Armouries

or build your own and blame on me anyway. Thats what I do.

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	14-06-2002 04:24									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba Yeah. For a while, their support seemed to go to sh|t. But I have been hearing good things about them again. But all the same, I will always build my own, and they will most likely have DDR.

My 2 year old Dell P991 monitor was acting up a bit over a month ago. Weird lines across the screen. I called Dell up, told them about it, they said they'd ship out a new monitor to me "by next week" and I could return my old monitor to them in that box, and they included a packing slip so I wouldn't need to pay to ship the monitor.

Anyway, the monitor literally came the next morning (all the way from Ontario), and this one works perfectly.

I've had nothing but great experiences when I've dealt with Dell. I've got some great horror stories to share with you about Gateway (back when it was Gateway 2000 though), HP, IBM, and especially Creative Labs.

There are always exceptions to the rule, and some people are taking some stories of the odd customer being upset by Dell's support and blowing it into a big "the sky is falling!" type situation.

	14-06-2002 05:04									#19
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Get a Mac, you know you want to.

	14-06-2002 05:24									#20
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how much cheaper is it to put together yourself? and what components would you need to buy?

lets see.... motherboard, sound card, video card, HD, floppy drive, cd-rom, RAM, processor...

	14-06-2002 05:25									#21
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go with Dell, dirt cheap...but you'll pay through the nose for support

	14-06-2002 05:28									#22
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It's actually sometimes cheaper to get high end Intel systems through an OEM like Dell.

Dell gets insane prices on high end Pentium 4s, far less than you'd pay if you bought the component yourself.

	14-06-2002 05:29									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Caesar the Great lets see.... motherboard, sound card, video card, HD, floppy drive, cd-rom, RAM, processor...

That's all you need, except maybe for a modem/ethernet card.

Oh, and you'd need a case aswell... obviously.

	14-06-2002 05:30									#24
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perhaps a monitor hahaha

	14-06-2002 05:30									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld That's all you need, except maybe for a modem/ethernet card.

Yeah, it's not like you need a useless power supply or case or monitor anyway.

	14-06-2002 05:31									#26
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power source... good call... and where could i buy a case?

	14-06-2002 05:32									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Yeah, it's not like you need a useless power supply or case anyway.

Already edited.

	14-06-2002 05:33									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld Already edited.

Your edit was slick but I was too fast for it.

Suck on it, Ossy.

	14-06-2002 05:34									#29
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i've screwed around with computers long enough to know where most of the stuff goes.... where could i buy all that stuff? it would be an interesting summer project putting together a computer

	14-06-2002 05:35									#30
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Look around for local computer flyers...

In my city www.firestorm.ab.ca and www.memoryexpress.com sell great components for cheap, and even build it for you for like $50.