13-06-2002 23:38									#1
	World Cup predictions - the second round Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

The first matches of the second round will be played on Saturday, so it's time to start a new thread even if not all the teams are known yet. But if we wait until all first round matches are played we will have less than 24 hours left to post our predictions.

In the knock-out stage of the tournament we will predict the results after the regular 90 minutes. If a match ends in a draw, goals scored in extra time or a penalty shoot-out don't count for our predictions.

Here are the matches. I'll fill in the remaining countries when we get to know them. I've also included the schedule for the rest of the tournament. In the second round you will get 3 points for predicting the correct winner or a draw and 3 bonus points for the exact score.

Second round:
49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo)
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata)
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita)
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon)
53 17-06 08:30 Mexico - USA (Jeonju)
54 17-06 13:30 Brazil - Belgium (Kobe)
55 18-06 08:30 Japan - Turkey (Miyagi)
56 18-06 13:30 Korea Republic - Italy (Daejeon)

Quarter finals:
57 21-06 08:30 England - Brazil (Shizuoka)
58 21-06 13:30 Germany - USA (Ulsan)
59 22-06 08:30 Spain - Korea Republic (Gwangju)
60 22-06 13:30 Senegal - Turkey (Osaka)

Semifinals:
61 25-06 13:30 W58 - W59 (Seoul)
62 26-06 13:30 W57 - W60 (Saitama)

Third place play off:
63 29-06 13:00 L61 - L62 (Daegu)

Final:
64 30-06 13:00 W61 - W62 (Yokohama)

You can find the thread for the third batch of the first round here. And the rules for our prediction game can be found here.

Last edited by Paul on 18-06-2002 at 18:53

	13-06-2002 23:39									#2
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49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo) 2 - 1
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata) 1 - 1
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita) 1 - 2
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon) 2 - 2

	13-06-2002 23:41									#3
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My own predictions for the first four matches:

49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo) 2-0
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata) 1-1
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita) 1-1
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon) 3-1

	13-06-2002 23:43									#4
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Two 2-goal margins? Brave man.

	13-06-2002 23:51									#5
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49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo) 2-0
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata) 1-1
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita) 1-2
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon) 3-2

	14-06-2002 00:21									#6
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Germany - Paraguay 2-0
Denmark - England 1-1
Sweden - Senegal 1-2
Spain - Republic of Ireland 3-1

	14-06-2002 00:25									#7
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Hehe, that's 3 for Senegal winning 2-1, and ALL 4 for believing England and Denmark will tie at 1 apeace!!

	14-06-2002 00:37									#8
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49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo) 2-1
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata) 2-2
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita) 3-1
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon) 3-2

	14-06-2002 00:49									#9
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I want to be back on top, dammit.

49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo) 3-1
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata) 2-2
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita) 2-0
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon) 3-1

	14-06-2002 00:59									#10
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No-one has gone for anything but a draw between England and Denmark .

	14-06-2002 01:01									#11
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Don't worry, I will.

I'll just wait until I can predict all 8 matches, that's all.

	14-06-2002 01:02									#12
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Denmark will win.

Too late to join the competition?

Carolus

	14-06-2002 01:15									#13
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49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo) 1-0
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata) 0-2
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita) 1-1
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon) 3-0

	14-06-2002 01:20									#14
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You can still join Carolus, just post your predictions of the remaining matches. Predictions of group winners, top scorer and World Champion are of course long overdue, but the remaining matches are up for grabs.

	14-06-2002 01:23									#15
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Eli, change that Den - Eng score around NOW. I want nobody cursing us.

	14-06-2002 01:25									#16
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My four initial predictions:

49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo) 2-0
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata) 2-1
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita) 2-1
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon) 4-2

	14-06-2002 01:26									#17
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So far it appears that Germany and Spain are clear favorites to go to the quarter finals. The results of the other two matches are still open.

Carolus, you can still join. Of course you have missed most of the first round matches and the predictions for group winners, top scorer and world champion. So your chances of actually winning are very small. But you can still post predictions for tomorrows matches in groups D and H and for the second round matches.

	14-06-2002 01:34									#18
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Yaroslav, thank you .

	14-06-2002 02:58									#19
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Ok, here are my guesses:

49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo): 3 - 1
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata): 2 - 1
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita): 2 - 1
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon): 2 - 0

Carolus

	14-06-2002 03:02									#20
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yaroslav, you actually think Ireland will score two goals in the same game?

Carolus

	14-06-2002 03:07									#21
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You mean, like they did against the Netherlands? .

	14-06-2002 04:06									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex yaroslav, you actually think Ireland will score two goals in the same game? Carolus

I think that our (Spain) defense will be: Hierro, Nadal, Pujol and JuanFran.

Hierro and Nadal are very very slow in theirs movements. So I think that Ireland can do us two goals.

I only except that Raul, Morientes and the genious Valeron will score three or four goals.

	14-06-2002 04:09									#23
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Hierro and Nadal have a combined age of 70-something. Keane and Duff have a combined age of 40-something.

	14-06-2002 04:14									#24
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII Yaroslav, thank you .

You're wellcome.

Seriously, I like the way of playing that Denmark has deployed in the first round. And I don't see anything special in how England played in his group .

But, as always, I can be wrong.

	14-06-2002 04:15									#25
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Well our captain Heintze is 38 and he's holding out pretty well.

	14-06-2002 04:23									#26
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I'm not only speaking about age. A player with 38 years old can do well, in some positions of the field. But in defense I think that a player like Helguera can do much better.

Last game, Helguera plays with Nadal and do superb. A defense with Hierro (experience and height) and Helguera is more persuasive than one with Hierro and Nadal.

The problem is that Helguera is also a good middle-field... So I undestand that our coach has a problem.

But the mayority of spanish supporters are concerned with the defense of the team...

	14-06-2002 04:50									#27
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germany d paraguay 1-0
England d Denmark 1-0
Spain d Ireland 2-1
Sweden d Senegal 2-1

	14-06-2002 10:30									#28
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49 15-06 08:30 Germany - Paraguay (Seogwipo)2-1
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark - England (Niigata)1-0
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden - Senegal (Oita)2-1
52 16-06 13:30 Spain - Republic of Ireland (Suwon)2-0

	14-06-2002 13:30									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Well our captain Heintze is 38 and he's holding out pretty well.

Well, he's had to foul people a couple of times because they were too quick for him. How would he do if Rommedahl was playing against him?

Yaroslav, forgive my bias: apart from David Seaman, the oldest person in our starting line-up has been Sol Campbell, 27.

	14-06-2002 14:20									#30
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I am going to be away for a bit so let me give you all my predictions. hopefully I will be able to get to a comp before the Quarter finals, but who knows.

Second round:
49 15-06 08:30 Germany 3-1 Paraguay (Seogwipo)
50 15-06 13:30 Denmark 0-0 England (Niigata) (3-4 on penalties)
51 16-06 08:30 Sweden 1-0 Senegal (Oita)
52 16-06 13:30 Spain 2-0 Republic of Ireland (Suwon)
53 17-06 08:30 Mexico 3-1 USA (Jeonju)
54 17-06 13:30 Brazil 4-0 Belgium (Kobe)
55 18-06 08:30 Japan 3-1 Turkey (Miyagi)
56 18-06 13:30 S Korea 0-3 Italy (Daejeon)

Quarter finals:
57 21-06 08:30 England 1-3 Brazil (Shizuoka)
58 21-06 13:30 Germany 3-0 Mexico (Ulsan)
59 22-06 08:30 Spain 2-1 Italy (Gwangju)
60 22-06 13:30 Sweden 0-1 Japan (Osaka)

Semifinals:
61 25-06 13:30 Germany 1-2 Spain (Seoul)
62 26-06 13:30 Brazil 3-0 Japan (Saitama)

Third place play off:
63 29-06 13:00 Portugal 1-2 Japan (Daegu)

Final:
64 30-06 13:00 Spain 1-3 Brazil (Yokohama)

Edit: agghh - this afternoons games (Friday) keep changing things - edit again....

Last edited by Rogan Josh on 14-06-2002 at 21:42