18-06-2002 09:16									#1
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uh, it's not looking good for us warmongers here. this jungle appears to be quite large, looks we got warm and wet

anyway, our UU is trash unless we chop a path through the jungle, or road our way out. i dont see that happening realitevely quickly, so our chariots may be phased out.

because were in a jungle, we probably wont get horses or iron, but it never hurts to be sure. i recommend getting iton working or horseback riding asap.

there is one strong point for the military though, these jungle cities will grow slowly and may be stiken with disease , meaning mroe time to pump out units in between settlers and workers.

at this current moment, all i can recomment with our military is to explore. until we find some good land, or an enemy, we have nothing to do

	18-06-2002 09:22									#2
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poor uber.

	18-06-2002 09:23									#3
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Nothing to do, eh?
As the minister of defence matters I believe you still have a certain responsibility in securing the workers and settlers from unprovoked barbarian raids... and guarding potential chokepoints.

	18-06-2002 09:27									#4
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no chokepoints and only one warrior to play with (for now).

i want that warrior to head west, along the costline of course, to look for fish and whales for future cities.

i reccomend you build a worker in Apolyton and then another warrior. clearing the jungle should be a priority.

the next warrior will defend, because emperor has unrest @ 2 pop.

depending on our city growth rates, another warrior could be built to protect the jungle worker. the other one shouldnt venture too far from home.

	18-06-2002 09:43									#5
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Well, you could also start making (long term) polls about defensive/offensive priorities...

You can make a poll on the importence of barbarian threat neutralization? Or just relax and inspect your banana-brigade...

	18-06-2002 10:04									#6
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i think it's too early to think about long - mid term policy.

	18-06-2002 16:52									#7
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Ahem... excuse me, but how could an army that is to be the greatest in the world have nothing to do?!?

Explore the world!
Protect our settlers and workers!
Or at the very least get your butts out there and conduct some training exercises!

Whatever you do, don't just sit there and complain about "nothing to do"!

	18-06-2002 17:02									#8
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no mountains or hills that we can see...dont worry about iron until we find some hills/mountains or another civ (to stay even, they might have iron and we'd need some to be a decent rival)

	18-06-2002 17:22									#9
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Primary goal is to explore. May be find and open some more huts. Forget war chariots. All they can give is an early GA. If the scouting warriors find another civ, try to trade for warrior code and attack them with vet archers. They must die!

	18-06-2002 17:28									#10
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Yes... If we meet another civ anytime soon, we must invade and conquer them to get their cities.

	18-06-2002 20:38									#11
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I suppose the jungle provides defense!
As a civilian i ask you uber to propose a massive undertaking of workers to flatten out a massive chunk of that jungle! the Burdon of Notylopa jungle will be alot smaller!

	18-06-2002 21:38									#12
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If Linney's plan passes, then that'll be the plan. Pump out workers, clear that god-forsaken jungle, and try to etch out a good spot for our civ in this corner. We can expand elsewhere also. I do feel that right now, exploration and clearing that jungle should be our priorities.

	18-06-2002 21:44									#13
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UberKruX, you should always have something to do. If you aren't fighting a war, you should be thinking up new tactics and strategies. Hopefully for you, they won't have to be naval ones.

	18-06-2002 22:20									#14
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Question:

If you build a city on a jungle tile and abandon it, does it automatically clear the jungle and give a free road? That would save 24 turns of worker's clearing.

If so, would the 2 pop points and shields for 1 settler worth it compared to using workers instead?

I've never tried it but I heard about others using it with mixed results.

	18-06-2002 22:20									#15
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i'm thinking up a few strategies for our jungle-ridden homeland, but i dont see us getting boats or chopping a path through the jungle any time soon. i'm occupying myself with defensive ideas.

i reccomend that we churn out a few workers and warriors to guard them with the +25% defense until it's all cleared and roaded.

i would like another worker to explore north, along the shortline, as well as our current one heading west.

and ouor UU isnt just about a golden age... it's basically a horseman at half price and a third of the techs...

	18-06-2002 22:22									#16
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yes, it clears the jungle, but settlers cost 3x (i think??) the amount of workers, and are 2x the pop.

and we're industial so it takes us 12 turns to clear a jungle (i think??), so with 3 workers per tile it's only 4 turns.

but i'm not the public works minister

	18-06-2002 22:34									#17
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX yes, it clears the jungle, but settlers cost 3x (i think??) the amount of workers, and are 2x the pop. and we're industial so it takes us 12 turns to clear a jungle (i think??), so with 3 workers per tile it's only 4 turns. but i'm not the public works minister

We will start clearing the jungle near City #2 in 6 turns, but only with one worker. The second worker will be ready 3 turns later.

	19-06-2002 00:44									#18
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As leader of the agressive Hawk Party.( See Thread for details) I believe we should worry about expansion then coming back later and clear out the jungle. There has to be another terrian type out there somewhere. The jungle will always be open. Worry about Securing the more fertile tiles first. Thanks Dane Davis

	19-06-2002 00:57									#19
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UberkruX, your attention is requested here

	19-06-2002 02:11									#20
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the hawk party is behind u all the way!

	19-06-2002 04:29									#21
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We should secure the Jungle first. Uber, next turn you'll have a new warrior to play with, but then we need another worker.