18-06-2002 21:54									#1
	Next Scheduled Turnchat Support Apolyton

This post will constantly be edited and changed to show the next up-and-coming turnchat. Thanks to whoever suggested it, I forget who it was now.

Alright, due to technical difficulties involving Apolyton's chatroom, all turnchats from now on will be using IRC. Apolyton can't handle the number of people we bring, so we have to find an alternative. In this post, I have a little tutorial by UberKrux to help you guys out if you can't figure it out.

The server is: Irc.Dal.Net and the room is #Civ3Dem.

Next Turnchat scheduled for:

Sunday, July 14th, 2100 GMT (4pm EST)

Turnthread Experiment: Tuesday, July 16th (Thread opened on Sunday, to be played at 2100 GMT)

Thursday, July 18th, 2100 GMT (4pm EST)

Here's a tutorial for getting into the chat, courtesy of UberKrux:

WE ARE HOLDING ALL TURNCHATS ON IRC NOW, AS APOLYTONS CHATROOM DIES WHEN WE ALL JOIN

for the advanced people this is all you need:
Server: irc.dal.net
Channel: #civ3dem

for the people that haven't used IRC (Internet Relay Chat) yet, there are 2 ways to get into the chat.

If you want to install mIRC software (Windows)

1. go to www.mirc.com and download the client
   
2. install and run the client
   
3. when it opens it'll say you should register, ignore it if you see it
   
4. it'll ask for a full name, an email address, and 2 nicknames
   
5. i just put krux for the real name and email, and my nicknames are UberKruX and UberKruX- (the second one is just in case someone has your nickname)
   
6. Your nickname should be SOMETHING like your poly name, if not the exact thing. we need to recognize you
   
7. in the "IRC Network" Dropdown box, select DALnet
   
8. under that combo box, theres another one. pick a server close to you, or whatever you want if you cant find one real close.
   
9. hit "connect to irc server"
   
10. a lot of text will scroll by, and there might be a few failed connection attempts. let it run for a while. if it fails, choose another server.
    
11. when it connects a box should pop up, labeled "mIRC Channels Folder". type "#civ3dem" in the box (no quotes)
    
12. you should be in the chat at this point.
    
13. if the channels box didnt pop up, you should see a LONG textbox at the bottom of the screen, type "/join #civ3dem" (again, no quotes) and you'll be in.
    

Last edited by Trip on 15-07-2002 at 00:31

	18-06-2002 22:03									#2
	Inflate your Upload Space

How do you top threads? Are you a mod?


or is it another one of those: ya gotta have 500 posts or somethin?

	18-06-2002 22:04									#3
	Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by Timeline How do you top threads? Are you a mod? or is it another one of those: ya gotta have 500 posts or somethin?

No, I'm just god-like.

	18-06-2002 22:18									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Why did you use Yellow? Anyways. Hopefully I get caught up by then.

	18-06-2002 22:25									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Trip No, I'm just god-like.

First a Despot, now a Deity.......I think we got a regular megalomaniac on our hands.

	18-06-2002 22:25									#6
	Get a bigger avatar today!

So people's attention goes straight to the date when they open up the thread. Makes sense to me. You noticed it after all.

	18-06-2002 22:31									#7
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Bold would have been better yellow is hard to read on default.

	18-06-2002 22:36									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by Moral Hazard Bold would have been better yellow is hard to read on default.

Okay okay, I changed it to blue.

	19-06-2002 00:57									#10
	Inflate your Upload Space

Oh I forgot to ask is the next turnchat going to be on IRC or in Poly's chat room?

	19-06-2002 02:07									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Apolyton. I hope to change things over to IRC over the next couple chats, but telling everyone that they have to download mIRC, etc. would be too tedious at this point. Oh, and everyone who wants to be in the turnchat, please, DO get mIRC, and get it configured. I'm still figuring out which server to use, but the room will be #Apolytonia.

	19-06-2002 02:40									#12
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IRC tutorial for dummies

To download mIRC : http://www.mirc.com/get.html
After installing mIRC, launch it
Close the window with the author's picture.

Now, you're in the options window.
- Fill the fields.
- Don't check "invisible mode".
- I strongly advise you don't give your true name here, nor your true adress. Be aware your nickname might already be taken on the whole network, so you should prepare a secondary nickname (as prompted by the program). For example, my secondary nickname is "-Spiffor-"

Ok, now that you filled the forms, it's not finished yet.
- Click on the selection arrow under, to select among DALnet servers
- Select "Random (US or EU or whatever) DALNET server" ("IRCnet: US, NY, New York")

- Now, you can click "connect", and you'll be connected to the network ! Note : don't click OK in the options window. If you did, press the lightning icon in the upper left of the screen to connect.

- Then, the program prompts you to enter something, in the "mIRC channel folder". Click "add". Channel is "#Civ3dem", and click ok.

I know this might sound complicated, but you have only to do this once, to get much more comfort when chatting.

Last edited by Spiffor on 21-06-2002 at 00:42

	19-06-2002 02:50									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

IRC troubleshooting

Yes, I know problems can arise with IRC, but don't forget we're gaining in quality !

Most problems I've seen so far was people being unable to connect the network. To avoid this, the ones who can't connect must look for other servers.

To add a new server, go to the options window (alt + O), and press the "add" button.
The choice of the server will vary, depending of the country you're from.

If you're American, I suggest you to do this :
- Description : "IRCnet globali"
- IRC server : "globali.us.ircnet.net"
- Port(s) : "6667"
- Group : "IRCnet"

I can't list all the servers for all countries, as there are too many. If you can't connect with the server in the previous post, go check this site. It lists all IRC servers, country-wise.

If you have a problem, please comment

Last edited by Spiffor on 19-06-2002 at 02:57

	19-06-2002 04:10									#14
	Inflate your Upload Space

I don't know if I can make it.

	19-06-2002 05:15									#15
	Got spare money?

I'll try to come this time. I'm going on a trip (play on words ) starting later that day though.

	19-06-2002 12:27									#16
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

well, i tried to connect to any of the ircnet-servers in germany, but it was impossible to connect to them.
someone in europe has a working server for me to connect to?

btw: i proposed the thread ;-P

Last edited by disorganizer on 19-06-2002 at 12:40

	19-06-2002 12:43									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

another thing:
i now managed to connect to one server. could it be that ircnet is awfully slow? and that they only allow 8 characters for the nick? and that they dont have nickserv and chanserv?
i would urgently propose some other network (like for example dalnet). you will not be able to protect the channel you want to use otherwise (and the nicks you use also. someone could enter the chat as trip and pretend to be him and then screw the game)

	19-06-2002 13:43									#18
	Got spare money?

quote: could it be that ircnet is awfully slow? and that they only allow 8 characters for the nick? and that they dont have nickserv and chanserv?

1: no
2: 9 chars
3: they dont have those services, indeed. IRCNETers say, that they are for wimps .

What concerns the fake warning, it's valid I think. It would be safer to "rent" the Apolyton chatroom. Even DALNET isn't entirely safe.

	19-06-2002 14:08									#19
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right. dalnet was also just an example.
we would need a chatnet to support irc and webchat, because we will have citizens behind firewalls not able to irc to outside.
i think nick and chatroom-registration should be mandatory for this chatnet.
we should also be able to implement a bot for impartial logging of all activity in the room and to take the logs to public, as those are very interesting for the citizens not being able to attend the chat.

	19-06-2002 17:51									#20
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

As far as i know, you can chat on IRC from a workstation behind a firewall (unless it blocks the outgoing port 6667). I do so all the time at home, as I use a router. The only thing is, you can't use the DCC feature (direct client connection) without a special module running at the router.

Another idea would be to use a private server for IRC. MarkG could set up one on Settler. It's not difficult. Or I could run one at my router. Channel protection would not be an issue, and if the server runs on Settler, even the Apolyton user database could be used.

	19-06-2002 17:53									#21
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this would be perfect. the apo-userbase for the nicks (with apo-password) and irc+web-access.

to the firewall problem: it depends on how rules are setup. but many firms directly block irc-traffic, so a real web-interface would be perfect in addition to irc.

	21-06-2002 00:45									#22
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Okay, as I said in the first post, all turnchats are being done in IRC from now on: Irc.Dal.Net #Civ3Dem.

	21-06-2002 01:27									#23
	Get a bigger avatar today!

I just would like to say that I won't be able to participate in the next chat, because I'm fixing my home computer this weekend (formatting hard drive, reinstalling windows, etc.).

But I'd love to read a log later.

	21-06-2002 01:38									#24
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mIRC SUCKS!!!! I can't use it and Im the VP thats not very helpful....

	21-06-2002 02:03									#25
	Got spare money?

dalnet also has web-access. try www.dal.net

	22-06-2002 00:58									#26
	Get a bigger avatar today!

As Thursday's chat showed, we can't depend on Apolyton Chat, as it sucks and it shoudl DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!!! and so we're using the dalnet stuff.

	28-06-2002 01:00									#27
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A turnchat is occuring NOW ! on DALnet.
IT should last a bit more than an hour. Please come !

	28-06-2002 01:01									#28
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Yes please we only have 7!

	02-07-2002 00:15									#29
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

n/m

	05-07-2002 04:13									#30
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Schedule updated. I'm trying to space things out for the upcoming week so we can organize things a bit better. My multi-day absence has set me back a bit and I want to get caught up.